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Global warming may be twice what climate models predict
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Unum
2018-07-06 05:59:51 UTC
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A new study based on evidence from past warm periods suggests global warming
may be double what is forecast.

Future global warming may eventually be twice as warm as projected by climate
models and sea levels may rise six metres or more even if the world meets the
2°C target, according to an international team of researchers from 17
countries.

The findings published last week in Nature Geoscience are based on
observational evidence from three warm periods over the past 3.5 million years
when the world was 0.5°C-2°C warmer than the pre-industrial temperatures of
the 19th Century.

The research also revealed how large areas of the polar ice caps could
collapse and significant changes to ecosystems could see the Sahara Desert
become green and the edges of tropical forests turn into fire dominated
savanna.

"Observations of past warming periods suggest that a number of amplifying
mechanisms, which are poorly represented in climate models, increase long-term
warming beyond climate model projections," said lead author, Prof Hubertus
Fischer of the University of Bern.

"This suggests the carbon budget to avoid 2°C of global warming may be far
smaller than estimated, leaving very little margin for error to meet the Paris
targets."
Wally W.
2018-07-06 12:12:26 UTC
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A new study based on evidence from past warm periods suggests global warming
may be double what is forecast.
So accelerates the climb-down of pompous know-it-alls who said "The
science is settled."

When they said "It's worse than we thought" they were still
proclaiming surety about something -- without accepting any blame for
being wrong before.

The new meme: "It **may be** worse than we thought."

Next: "We're fully clueless about how far off our previous brain farts
were."
JTEM is right
2018-07-07 04:31:50 UTC
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The new meme: "It **may be** worse than we thought."
So the oceans boiled away five years ago instead
of two years ago?

I knew it!





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Catoni
2018-07-07 04:52:58 UTC
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https://phys.org/news/2018-07-global-climate.html
A new study based on evidence from past warm periods suggests global warming
may be double what is forecast.
Future global warming may eventually be twice as warm as projected by climate
models and sea levels may rise six metres or more even if the world meets the
2°C target, according to an international team of researchers from 17
countries.
You mean.... like THESE models ? ?

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Note the little blue squares and little green circles at the bottom which are the actual real observations.. vs the stupid models...
Unum
2018-07-07 15:29:19 UTC
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https://phys.org/news/2018-07-global-climate.html
A new study based on evidence from past warm periods suggests global warming
may be double what is forecast.
Future global warming may eventually be twice as warm as projected by climate
models and sea levels may rise six metres or more even if the world meets the
2°C target, according to an international team of researchers from 17
countries.
You mean.... like THESE models ? ?
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/CMIP5-73-models-vs-obs-20N-20S-MT-5-yr-means1.png
Note the little blue squares and little green circles at the bottom which are the actual real observations.. vs the stupid models...
I'm 'noting' that Spencer lied, and cartooni believed the lie. The actual
real observations show significant warming which jibes with predictions.

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-climate-forcing

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/

Continuing the planet's long-term warming trend, globally averaged
temperatures in 2017 were 1.62 degrees Fahrenheit (0.90 degrees Celsius)
warmer than the 1951 to 1980 mean, according to scientists at NASA's Goddard
Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York. That is second only to global
temperatures in 2016.
Wally W.
2018-07-07 15:52:17 UTC
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https://phys.org/news/2018-07-global-climate.html
A new study based on evidence from past warm periods suggests global warming
may be double what is forecast.
Future global warming may eventually be twice as warm as projected by climate
models and sea levels may rise six metres or more even if the world meets the
2°C target, according to an international team of researchers from 17
countries.
You mean.... like THESE models ? ?
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/CMIP5-73-models-vs-obs-20N-20S-MT-5-yr-means1.png
Note the little blue squares and little green circles at the bottom which are the actual real observations.. vs the stupid models...
I'm 'noting' that Spencer lied, and cartooni believed the lie. The actual
real observations show significant warming which jibes with predictions.
https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-climate-forcing
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/
Continuing the planet's long-term warming trend, globally averaged
temperatures in 2017 were 1.62 degrees Fahrenheit (0.90 degrees Celsius)
warmer than the 1951 to 1980 mean, according to scientists at NASA's Goddard
Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York. That is second only to global
temperatures in 2016.
Why is NASA's Goddard Institute for ***Space**** Studies trying to do
NOAA's job?
R Kym Horsell
2018-07-07 16:04:48 UTC
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https://phys.org/news/2018-07-global-climate.html
A new study based on evidence from past warm periods suggests global warming
may be double what is forecast.
Future global warming may eventually be twice as warm as projected by climate
models and sea levels may rise six metres or more even if the world meets the
2^0C target, according to an international team of researchers from 17
countries.
You mean.... like THESE models ? ?
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/CMIP5-73-models-vs-obs-20N-20S-MT-5-yr-means1.png
Note the little blue squares and little green circles at the bottom which are the actual real observations.. vs the stupid models...
I'm 'noting' that Spencer lied, and cartooni believed the lie. The actual
real observations show significant warming which jibes with predictions.
...

It's all been covered before, but cartooni doesn't have the consititution
to even understand seasonality in weather... so you cain spec much from him.

CMIP experiments number in the 100s and most of the scenarios have nothing
to do with what is actually happening now.

It's pretty easy to grab a couple random experiments and plot them
against observations and say "look -- this plot doesn't look like
observations". Fools the hillbillies who nebba know what they're
looking at or what to espect in the first place.

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Wally W.
2018-07-07 16:57:42 UTC
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CMIP experiments number in the 100s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupled_model_intercomparison_project

Apparenly, the creator of MrPostingRobot doesn't understand the
difference between a simulation and an experiment.

A simulation assumes "the science is settled."

An experiment observes Nature -- with more humility.

How much humility is there in afflicting people with a poorly mannered
bot?
R Kym Horsell
2018-07-07 19:16:01 UTC
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https://phys.org/news/2018-07-global-climate.html
A new study based on evidence from past warm periods suggests global warming
may be double what is forecast.
Future global warming may eventually be twice as warm as projected by climate
models and sea levels may rise six metres or more even if the world meets the
2^0C target, according to an international team of researchers from 17
countries.
You mean.... like THESE models ? ?
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/CMIP5-73-models-vs-obs-20N-20S-MT-5-yr-means1.png
Note the little blue squares and little green circles at the bottom which are the actual real observations.. vs the stupid models...
I'm 'noting' that Spencer lied, and cartooni believed the lie. The actual
real observations show significant warming which jibes with predictions.
...
It's all been covered before, but cartooni doesn't have the consititution
to even understand seasonality in weather... so you cain spec much from him.
CMIP experiments number in the 100s and most of the scenarios have nothing
to do with what is actually happening now.
It's pretty easy to grab a couple random experiments and plot them
against observations and say "look -- this plot doesn't look like
observations". Fools the hillbillies who nebba know what they're
looking at or what to espect in the first place.
--
<http://www.ipcc-data.org/sim/gcm_monthly/AR5/CMIP5-Experiments.html>
I also seem to remember from some analysis of Spencer's past efforts
in particular is the "observations" he tends to use are anomalies.

Comparing anomalies which have a zero point usually somewhere inside
the series with climate model that are in abs temperatures means
you have to align the 2 sets of data meaningfully.

At some point I think Spencer was using UAH LT anomalies. Pretty funny
given the "observations" in abs temp terms really are -30C or similar.

And it seems Spencer sometimes tends to chose to align the "observations"
and model outpouts so the two things coincide on the extreme left hand side
of the plot and thereby emphasise any dis-similarity.

When the 2 are aligned in the middle of the X-axis they look far
less dis-similar.

Which is generally why the important thing in climate models are the
trends and changes with respect to a base period, not the actual
abs temps at any given point which is generally the kind of things
the hillbillies believe is how the two things should be compared.
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Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), and the MET Office in England.
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Catoni
2018-07-07 18:09:05 UTC
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I'm 'noting' that Spencer lied,
No cite means YOU lie... as usual.

It fit's your name.... "Unum" the Liar !

Dr. Roy Warren Spencer (born December 20, 1955) is a meteorologist, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, and the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer (AMSR-E) on NASA's Aqua satellite. He has served as senior scientist for climate studies at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center.

He is known for his satellite-based temperature monitoring work, for which he was awarded the American Meteorological Society's Special Award.


- "Aqua Project Science". NASA. Archived from the original on 2013-02-16. Retrieved 2012-08-27.

- Spencer, Roy W. (March 19, 2007). "STATEMENT TO THE COMMITTEE" (PDF). United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2007-03-28. Retrieved 2007-03-07.

Books

Spencer, Roy W. (2008). Climate Confusion: How Global Warming Hysteria Leads to Bad Science, Pandering Politicians and Misguided Policies that Hurt the Poor. Encounter Books. ISBN 1-59403-210-6.

Spencer, Roy W. (2010). The Great Global Warming Blunder: How Mother Nature Fooled the World's Top Climate Scientists. Encounter Books. ISBN 1-59403-373-0. Archived from the original on 2012-09-14.

Spencer, Roy W. (2010). The Bad Science and Bad Policy of Obama's Global Warming Agenda. Encounter Books. ISBN 1-59403-482-6. Archived from the original on 2012-07-18.

Peer-reviewed papers

Spencer, Roy W.; Christy, John R. (1990). "Precise Monitoring of Global Temperature Trends from Satellites". Science. 247 (4950): 1558–1562. Bibcode:1990Sci...247.1558S. doi:10.1126/science.247.4950.1558. PMID 17782811.

Spencer, Roy W.; Braswell, William D. (2007). "Cloud and radiation budget changes associated with tropical intraseasonal oscillations". Geophysical Research Letters. 34 (15): L15707. Bibcode:2007GeoRL..3415707S. doi:10.1029/2007GL029698.

Spencer, Roy W.; Braswell, William D. (2008). "Potential Biases in Feedback Diagnosis from Observational Data: A Simple Model Demonstration". Journal of Climate. 21 (21): 5624–5628. Bibcode:2008JCli...21.5624S. doi:10.1175/2008JCLI2253.1.

Spencer, Roy W.; Braswell, William D. (2010). "On the diagnosis of radiative feedback in the presence of unknown radiative forcing". Journal of Geophysical Research. 115 (D16): D16109. Bibcode:2010JGRD..11516109S. doi:10.1029/2009JD013371.

Spencer, Roy W.; Braswell, William D. (2011). "On the Misdiagnosis of Surface Temperature Feedbacks from Variations in Earth's Radiant Energy Balance". Remote Sensing. 3 (8): 1603–1613. Bibcode:2011RemS....3.1603S. doi:10.3390/rs3081603.
Unum
2018-07-07 19:09:07 UTC
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I'm 'noting' that Spencer lied,
No cite means YOU lie... as usual.
Lol, dumbass snipped my cites.
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It fit's your name.... "Unum" the Liar !
Dr. Roy Warren Spencer (born December 20, 1955) is a meteorologist, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, and the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer (AMSR-E) on NASA's Aqua satellite. He has served as senior scientist for climate studies at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center.
That's the fallacy of argumentum ad verecundiam - Appeal to Authority

Insisting that a claim is true simply because a valid authority or expert on
the issue said it was true, without any other supporting evidence offered.
R Kym Horsell
2018-07-07 19:22:00 UTC
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I'm 'noting' that Spencer lied,
No cite means YOU lie... as usual.
Lol, dumbass snipped my cites.
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It fit's your name.... "Unum" the Liar !
Dr. Roy Warren Spencer (born December 20, 1955) is a meteorologist, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, and the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer (AMSR-E) on NASA's Aqua satellite. He has served as senior scientist for climate studies at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center.
That's the fallacy of argumentum ad verecundiam - Appeal to Authority
Insisting that a claim is true simply because a valid authority or expert on
the issue said it was true, without any other supporting evidence offered.
In this case I notice the good doctor is comparing a model that produces
average world temperares at the surface level with
"middle troposphere" (5km-15km up) at the tropics.

Well chosen, from his point of view, given the equatorial trends
even at the surface at maybe 1/2 the average. In the middle trop likely
much less again.

Any tricks with aligning the origin at the left and side of the plot
will boost the laughability of the thing even more.

All of this goes over hillbilly heads even after mention time and again
over past 5-10 years.
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2018-07-07 19:40:05 UTC
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I'm 'noting' that Spencer lied,
No cite means YOU lie... as usual.
Lol, dumbass snipped my cites.
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It fit's your name.... "Unum" the Liar !
Dr. Roy Warren Spencer (born December 20, 1955) is a meteorologist, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, and the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer (AMSR-E) on NASA's Aqua satellite. He has served as senior scientist for climate studies at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center.
That's the fallacy of argumentum ad verecundiam - Appeal to Authority
Insisting that a claim is true simply because a valid authority or expert on
the issue said it was true, without any other supporting evidence offered.
In this case I notice the good doctor is comparing a model that produces
average world temperares at the surface level with
"middle troposphere" (5km-15km up) at the tropics.
Well chosen, from his point of view, given the equatorial trends
even at the surface at maybe 1/2 the average. In the middle trop likely
much less again.
Any tricks with aligning the origin at the left and side of the plot
will boost the laughability of the thing even more.
All of this goes over hillbilly heads even after mention time and again
over past 5-10 years.
Just as a matter of interest, even Spencer's source officially shows
the MT Tropics have a trend much different from the surface. In fact,
seemingly the trend that is the least of 4 possible choices
with then a 1/4 chance or less it was chosen by chance alone. :)

The summary numbers:

Trends for UAH LT v6:
Globe .13 deg C/decade <-- "worst" choice to compare with
surface temp modeling given
we wish to show how "wrong" models are.
Tropics .12

Trends for UAH MT v6:
Globe .09 deg C/decade
Tropics .08 deg C/dec <--- "obvious" choice to compare with
surface temp modeling given
we want to emphasize the models
are "wrong".
Added dis-similarity achieved
by aligning origin of UAH MT v6
with model outputs for 1975
rather than c2000.
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Catoni
2018-07-07 23:02:23 UTC
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I'm 'noting' that Spencer lied,
No cite means YOU lie... as usual.
Lol, dumbass snipped my cites.
You mean your doctored "adjusted" "revised" NASA data ? ?

Principia Scientific International

NASA Exposed In ‘Massive’ New Climate Data Fraud

Published on November 24, 2015

Veteran award-winning journalist Günter Ederer reports of a shocking new global warming data fraud in NASA’s global temperature data series, as relied on by the UN and government climate scientists. NASA FRAUD The data has been carefully analysed by a respected data computation expert Professor Dr. Friedrich Karl Ewert and is being made publicly available for independent verification.

Professor Ewert’s findings seem to show NASA has intentionally and systematically rigged the official government record of global temperatures to show recent global warming where none would exist without the upwards ‘revisions.’

The astonishing results are now available online to the public. P Gosselin of notrickzone.com reports:

Ederer reports not long ago retired geologist and data computation expert Professor Dr. Friedrich Karl Ewert began looking at the data behind the global warming claims, and especially the datasets of NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS).

Ewert painstakingly examined and tabulated the reams of archived data from 1153 stations that go back to 1881 – which NASA has publicly available – data that the UN IPCC uses to base its conclusion that man is heating the Earth’s atmosphere through the burning of fossil fuels. According to Ederer, what Professor Ewert found is “unbelievable”:

From the publicly available data, Ewert made an unbelievable discovery: Between the years 2010 and 2012 the data measured since 1881 were altered so that they showed a significant warming, especially after 1950. […] A comparison of the data from 2010 with the data of 2012 shows that NASA-GISS had altered its own datasets so that especially after WWII a clear warming appears – although it never existed.”

More: https://principia-scientific.org/nasa-exposed-in-massive-new-climate-data-fraud/

Hey Unum.... how about NOAA ? ?


Committee on Science, Space and Technology
Lamar Smith: Chairman

Former NOAA Scientist Confirms Colleagues Manipulated Climate Records
Feb 5, 2017 Press Release

WASHINGTON – U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Science, Space, and Technology members today responded to reports about the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA) 2015 climate change study (“the Karl study”). According to Dr. John Bates, the recently retired principal scientist at NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center, the Karl study was used “to discredit the notion of a global warming hiatus and rush to time the publication of the paper to influence national and international deliberations on climate policy.”

Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas): “I thank Dr. John Bates for courageously stepping forward to tell the truth about NOAA’s senior officials playing fast and loose with the data in order to meet a politically predetermined conclusion.
In the summer of 2015, whistleblowers alerted the Committee that the Karl study was rushed to publication before underlying data issues were resolved to help influence public debate about the so-called Clean Power Plan and upcoming Paris climate conference. Since then, the Committee has attempted to obtain information that would shed further light on these allegations, but was obstructed at every turn by the previous administration’s officials. I repeatedly asked, ‘What does NOAA have to hide?’

More: https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/former-noaa-scientist-confirms-colleagues-manipulated-climate-records
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It fit's your name.... "Unum" the Liar !
Dr. Roy Warren Spencer (born December 20, 1955) is a meteorologist, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, and the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer (AMSR-E) on NASA's Aqua satellite. He has served as senior scientist for climate studies at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center.
That's the fallacy of argumentum ad verecundiam - Appeal to Authority
That's something you socialist climate alarm morons do ALL the time...argumentum ad verecundiam.... Appeal to Authority.
(e.g. Michael "Hockey Schtick" Mann...James "Fudgin' the Numbers" Hansen... et al.)
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Insisting that a claim is true simply because a valid authority or expert on
the issue said it was true, without any other supporting evidence offered.
You idiots would NEVER do that... would you ? ? LOL ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

Thanks for brightening my day.............comrade.... 555555555 ;)
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2018-07-08 20:31:12 UTC
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I'm 'noting' that Spencer lied,
No cite means YOU lie... as usual.
Lol, dumbass snipped my cites.
You mean your doctored "adjusted" "revised" NASA data ? ?
First there weren't any cites, now lieboy says they were doctored.
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Dr. Roy Warren Spencer (born December 20, 1955) is a meteorologist, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, and the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer (AMSR-E) on NASA's Aqua satellite. He has served as senior scientist for climate studies at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center.
That's the fallacy of argumentum ad verecundiam - Appeal to Authority
That's something you socialist climate alarm morons do ALL the time...argumentum ad verecundiam.... Appeal to Authority.
(e.g. Michael "Hockey Schtick" Mann...James "Fudgin' the Numbers" Hansen... et al.)
You are always welcome to give an example. Meanwhile it is very clear that
cartooni relied on a fallacy.
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Post by Unum
Insisting that a claim is true simply because a valid authority or expert on
the issue said it was true, without any other supporting evidence offered.
You idiots would NEVER do that... would you ? ? LOL ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
Thanks for brightening my day.............comrade.... 555555555 ;)
cartooni is just a stinking pile of hate and profanity.
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2018-07-08 21:09:58 UTC
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I'm 'noting' that Spencer lied,
No cite means YOU lie... as usual.
Lol, dumbass snipped my cites.
You mean your doctored "adjusted" "revised" NASA data ? ?
First there weren't any cites, now lieboy says they were doctored.
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Dr. Roy Warren Spencer (born December 20, 1955) is a meteorologist, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, and the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer (AMSR-E) on NASA's Aqua satellite. He has served as senior scientist for climate studies at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center.
That's the fallacy of argumentum ad verecundiam - Appeal to Authority
That's something you socialist climate alarm morons do ALL the time...argumentum ad verecundiam.... Appeal to Authority.
(e.g. Michael "Hockey Schtick" Mann...James "Fudgin' the Numbers" Hansen... et al.)
You are always welcome to give an example. Meanwhile it is very clear that
cartooni relied on a fallacy.
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Post by Unum
Insisting that a claim is true simply because a valid authority or expert on
the issue said it was true, without any other supporting evidence offered.
You idiots would NEVER do that... would you ? ? LOL ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
Thanks for brightening my day.............comrade.... 555555555 ;)
cartooni is just a stinking pile of hate and profanity.
Global Warming/Climate Change Alarmist socialist "Unum" is STILL a Liar ! ! !

How can you tell that "Unum" the Liar is lying ? ?

His lips are moving and/or he's typing on his keyboard.

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