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Solar power made easy
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JTEM is right
2018-05-09 21:46:19 UTC
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People who love alternatives can't grasp
the scales here...


Look. This is easy. All you have to do is
build enough solar panels to power everyone.

...all the houses and stores, all the
factories and office building... all the
cars & trucks, seeing how you insist upon
writing Elon Musk into your future...

Oh. Then you have to build a battery farm
large enough to power the entire grid overnight,
when there is no sun, and when there's inclement
weather. And this will have to be charging up
even as you're powering the grid, so you need to
build way more solar panels.

Oh. And then you need some kind of "Buffering"
to handle to constant fluctuations in energy
demand. I mean, if there's a spike in use -- as
very often happens -- the energy needs to come
from SOMEWHERE, So now you need even more battery
farms to take care of this buffering -- while
still leaving alone what you set aside for use
at night & in inclement weather...

Oh. And solar energy fluctuates with the seasons,
so now you need still more battery farms to make
up the shortfall in solar energy during some of
the reasons, BUT WITH MAINTAINING YOU BUFFER AND
WHAT YOU SAVED FOR NIGHT/INCLEMENT WEATHER.

Even in the dead of winter there is night and there
is day, and you will still need extra battery farms
to feed those long nights & dark days...

This means more solar panels, of course. Way more.

Oh. And then there's economic growth, or even just
population growth. This means we need even more
solar panels, in order to meet this growth in demand,
and we're going to need more & more battery farms to
handle all the extra people/demand when it's night,
or inclement weather, or when there's those all too
common spikes, to when a change in seasons means
shorter days and longer nights... etc.

Just two of Elon Musk's battery farms used up as
much lithium as like 25% of the entire planet's
output. The United States alone would need THOUSANDS.

Plural.

How many would China and India need?




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columbiaaccidentinvestigation
2018-05-09 22:33:15 UTC
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Post by JTEM is right
People who love alternatives can't grasp
the scales here...
Look. This is easy. All you have to do is
build enough solar panels to power everyone.
...all the houses and stores, all the
factories and office building... all the
cars & trucks, seeing how you insist upon
writing Elon Musk into your future...
Oh. Then you have to build a battery farm
large enough to power the entire grid overnight,
when there is no sun, and when there's inclement
weather. And this will have to be charging up
even as you're powering the grid, so you need to
build way more solar panels.
Oh. And then you need some kind of "Buffering"
to handle to constant fluctuations in energy
demand. I mean, if there's a spike in use -- as
very often happens -- the energy needs to come
from SOMEWHERE, So now you need even more battery
farms to take care of this buffering -- while
still leaving alone what you set aside for use
at night & in inclement weather...
Oh. And solar energy fluctuates with the seasons,
so now you need still more battery farms to make
up the shortfall in solar energy during some of
the reasons, BUT WITH MAINTAINING YOU BUFFER AND
WHAT YOU SAVED FOR NIGHT/INCLEMENT WEATHER.
Even in the dead of winter there is night and there
is day, and you will still need extra battery farms
to feed those long nights & dark days...
This means more solar panels, of course. Way more.
Oh. And then there's economic growth, or even just
population growth. This means we need even more
solar panels, in order to meet this growth in demand,
and we're going to need more & more battery farms to
handle all the extra people/demand when it's night,
or inclement weather, or when there's those all too
common spikes, to when a change in seasons means
shorter days and longer nights... etc.
Just two of Elon Musk's battery farms used up as
much lithium as like 25% of the entire planet's
output. The United States alone would need THOUSANDS.
Plural.
How many would China and India need?
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what you cant grasp is that fossil fuels are a stepping stone, moving onto renewables is not limited to your stupidity
Unum
2018-05-10 00:09:55 UTC
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Post by JTEM is right
People who love alternatives can't grasp
the scales here...
Look. This is easy. All you have to do is
build enough solar panels to power everyone.
what you cant grasp is that fossil fuels are a stepping stone, moving onto renewables is not limited to your stupidity
The fruitcake seems to have ignored wind (plus all other aspects of
reality). High voltage DC lines could cut carbon emissions 80%.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/609766/how-to-get-wyoming-wind-to-california-and-cut-80-of-us-carbon-emissions/

A national direct-current grid could also help lower emissions to as much as
80 percent below 1990 levels within 15 years, all with commercially available
technology and without increasing the costs of electricity
JTEM is right
2018-05-10 16:58:39 UTC
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A national direct-current grid could also help lower emissions to as much as
80 percent below 1990 levels within 15 years, all with commercially available
technology and without increasing the costs of electricity
no we just replace the grid and everything plugged
into it, which is all free. Right?






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Unum
2018-05-10 17:26:09 UTC
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A national direct-current grid could also help lower emissions to as much as
80 percent below 1990 levels within 15 years, all with commercially available
technology and without increasing the costs of electricity
no we just replace the grid and everything plugged
into it, which is all free. Right?
I didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and everything plugged
into it', you sad little moron.
JTEM is right
2018-05-10 17:43:53 UTC
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I didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and everything plugged
into it'
No, we're going to snap our fingers and move from
A/C power to D/C and it's all free. Right.

Idiot.




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Unum
2018-05-10 18:37:47 UTC
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I didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and everything plugged
into it'
No, we're going to snap our fingers and move from
A/C power to D/C and it's all free. Right.
Idiot.
Keep on walking it back, you sad little moron.


https://www.technologyreview.com/s/609766/how-to-get-wyoming-wind-to-california-and-cut-80-of-us-carbon-emissions/

"providing a benefit of at least $2.50 in savings for
every $1 invested in the transmission system."
JTEM is right
2018-05-10 20:50:20 UTC
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Keep on walking it back, you sad little moron.
So you stand by your asinine claim that we can
switch the grid and everything plugged into it
from A/C to D/C for free.

Got it. You are mentally ill.

...and this is before we acknowledge the
fact that none of this "macro grid" exists,
and it's all being touted by the folks who would
make *Scads* of money off of it...









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Unum
2018-05-10 23:51:57 UTC
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Keep on walking it back, you sad little moron.
So you stand by your asinine claim that we can
switch the grid and everything plugged into it
from A/C to D/C for free.
Why does the fruitcake always lie?
Nobody
2018-05-10 20:42:42 UTC
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Post by Unum
I didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and everything
plugged into it'
No, we're going to snap our fingers and move from
A/C power to D/C and it's all free. Right.
Idiot.
Everyone knows Unum isn't the sharpest pin in the cushion.
Unum
2018-05-10 23:52:49 UTC
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Post by Unum
I didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and everything
plugged into it'
No, we're going to snap our fingers and move from
A/C power to D/C and it's all free. Right.
Idiot.
Everyone knows Unum isn't the sharpest pin in the cushion.
dumbody didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and everything
plugged into it' either, lol.
Nobody
2018-05-11 18:36:21 UTC
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Post by Unum
I didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and everything
plugged into it'
No, we're going to snap our fingers and move from
A/C power to D/C and it's all free. Right.
Idiot.
Everyone knows Unum isn't the sharpest pin in the cushion.
dumbody didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and everything
plugged into it' either, lol.
There was no need to comment. I had a moment of sympathy. Too many had
already made you look like a fool on the subject.
Unum
2018-05-11 19:51:06 UTC
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Post by Unum
I didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and everything
plugged into it'
No, we're going to snap our fingers and move from
A/C power to D/C and it's all free. Right.
Idiot.
Everyone knows Unum isn't the sharpest pin in the cushion.
dumbody didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and everything
plugged into it' either, lol.
There was no need to comment. I had a moment of sympathy. Too many had
already made you look like a fool on the subject.
All you've ever got is a big fat yap.
Nobody
2018-05-14 01:34:11 UTC
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Post by Unum
I didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and
everything plugged into it'
No, we're going to snap our fingers and move from
A/C power to D/C and it's all free. Right.
Idiot.
Everyone knows Unum isn't the sharpest pin in the cushion.
dumbody didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and
everything plugged into it' either, lol.
There was no need to comment. I had a moment of sympathy. Too
many had already made you look like a fool on the subject.
All you've ever got is a big fat yap.
Not as big and fat as yours. Nor is it nearly as full of bullshit.
You are a prime example of Dunning Kruger effect.
Maybe you learned it from your mentor gordo, the pseudo scientist
At least you are good at something.

Stay ignorant my friend!
Unum
2018-05-15 21:04:05 UTC
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Post by Unum
I didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and
everything plugged into it'
No, we're going to snap our fingers and move from
A/C power to D/C and it's all free. Right.
Idiot.
Everyone knows Unum isn't the sharpest pin in the cushion.
dumbody didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and
everything plugged into it' either, lol.
There was no need to comment. I had a moment of sympathy. Too
many had already made you look like a fool on the subject.
All you've ever got is a big fat yap.
Not as big and fat as yours. Nor is it nearly as full of bullshit.
dumbody proved my point, thanks!
Nobody
2018-05-16 21:11:10 UTC
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Post by Unum
I didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and
everything plugged into it'
No, we're going to snap our fingers and move from
A/C power to D/C and it's all free. Right.
Idiot.
Everyone knows Unum isn't the sharpest pin in the cushion.
dumbody didn't see anything about replacing the 'grid and
everything plugged into it' either, lol.
There was no need to comment. I had a moment of sympathy. Too
many had already made you look like a fool on the subject.
All you've ever got is a big fat yap.
Not as big and fat as yours. Nor is it nearly as full of bullshit.
dumbody proved my point, thanks!
Yet again Unum proves to the world he is the perfect example of the
Dunning Kruger effect. Next will be his picture in books next to the
definition. Fame for Unum at last.

JTEM is right
2018-05-10 16:54:08 UTC
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what you cant grasp is that
You have this conspiracy theory were everyone
hates saving money but loves pollution, and this
is why everyone avoids wind & solar.






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columbiaaccidentinvestigation
2018-05-10 17:10:36 UTC
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what you cant grasp is that
You
So you are going to explain how every petroleum pocket was discovered, drilled, the oil transported, refined and delivered to every customer in one night before the sun came up.
JTEM is right
2018-05-10 17:18:10 UTC
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So you are going to explain how every petroleum pocket was discovered, drilled, the oil transported, refined and delivered to every customer in one night before the sun came up.
It's not at all clear what you think you're refuting,
or how, so I'm going to ignore your idiocy and remind
you that we are inside of an ice age. "Warmer" would
be a very good thing, if we were capable of it.





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columbiaaccidentinvestigation
2018-05-10 17:46:37 UTC
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So you are going to explain how every petroleum pocket was discovered, drilled, the oil transported, refined and delivered to every customer in one night before the sun came up.
It's not at all clear
The sun is shining, clearly your head is stuck in the sand
JTEM is right
2018-05-11 21:49:43 UTC
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The sun is shining
Great. We're in an ice age. We were in one
yesterday and we will be in one tomorrow. The
very notion of going hysterical over it getting
slightly warmer during an ice age is laughable.



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columbiaaccidentinvestigation
2018-05-12 06:13:30 UTC
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The sun is shining
Great. We're in an ice age.
atmospheric concentrations of co2 and o2 have impacted glacial periods in the past, along with the sun powering the entire process.
JTEM is right
2018-05-13 16:56:08 UTC
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atmospheric concentrations of
Who cares? We are inside of an ice age. Even if by
some miracle we could warm our planet with CO2 that
would be a great thing. We'd do it on purpose.




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columbiaaccidentinvestigation
2018-05-13 19:46:27 UTC
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atmospheric concentrations of
Who
So your dumb ass logic has concluded that since we are in an ice age, we should not use the sun to produce energy.
JTEM is right
2018-05-16 04:26:09 UTC
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So your dumb ass logic has concluded that
Demand for oil has increased 40% in the last
eight years alone, and it's projected to
keep growing for decades to come.

"Dumb" is shoveling shit against the tide.





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