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2018-05-10 20:04:41 UTC
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Costa Rica to ban fossil fuels and become world's first decarbonised society

New president embraces 'titanic and beautiful task' of complete
renewable energy transition

RELATED:
* Costa Rica's electricity generated by renewables for 300 days in 2017

Tom Embury-Dennis
10 May 2018 11:30 BST

[image] Solar panels, including this one in Guanacaste, Costa Rica,
produced a small portion of this 98.1 per cent renewable energy Joe
Raedle/Getty

* Costa Rica's new president has announced a plan to ban fossil fuels
and become the first fully decarbonised country in the world.

* Carlos Alvarado, a 38-year-old former journalist, made the
announcement to a crowd of 1000s during his inauguration on
Wed.

"Decarbonisation is the great task of our generation and Costa Rica
must be one of the first countries in the world to accomplish it, if
not the first," Mr Alvarado said.

"We have the titanic and beautiful task of abolishing the use of
fossil fuels in our economy to make way for the use of clean and
renewable energies."

Symbolically, the president arrived at the ceremony in San Jose aboard
a hydrogen-fuelled bus.

Last month, Mr Alvarado said the Central American country would begin
to implement a plan to end fossil fuel use in transport by 2021 - the
200th year of Costa Rican independence.

"When we reach 200 years of independent life we will take Costa Rica
forward and celebrate ... that we've removed gasoline and diesel from
our transportation," he promised during a victory speech. Costa
Rica's renewable energy

Costa Rica already generates more than 99 per cent of its electricity
using renewable energy sources, but achieving zero carbon transport
quickly - even in a country well-known for its environmental
commitment - will be a significant challenge, experts say.

...

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Assaad Razzouk @AssaadRazzouk 10 May 2018 11:58Z
Wow! Costa Rica to BAN fossil fuels and become world's 1st decarbonised
society: New president embraces 'titanic and beautiful task' of complete
renewable energy transition https://buff.ly/2wA2pLc #climate
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model simulations, the findings suggest the region will warm at a
faster pace than the global average, with "a tendency towards
decreasing seasonal precipitation in March-May, and a reduction of
consecutive wet days". As a result, "there are obvious advantages to
reduce global warming to 1.5#C relative to 2#C in regard of the
reduced frequency and magnitude of precipitation extremes", the
researchers conclude. -- Environmental Research Letters

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JTEM is right
2018-05-10 20:51:31 UTC
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Costa Rica to ban
So it hasn't banned anything. Check.

Once again, you "Report" something that doesn't
exist.




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Kibbu Ubik
2018-05-11 10:51:30 UTC
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Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
Costa Rica to ban
So it hasn't banned anything. Check.
Once again, you "Report" something that doesn't
exist.
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You have the reading comprehension of a 5-year-old. Read the newspaper
article again and find out what Costa Rica has done and what it plans to do.
Why do you deniers pick on a single word like 'ban' in a newspaper
article and stretch it an idiotic attempt prove anything you want.

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Unum
2018-05-11 20:01:24 UTC
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Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
Costa Rica to ban
So it hasn't banned anything. Check.
Once again, you "Report" something that doesn't
exist.
"Costa Rica already generates more than 99 per cent of its
electricity using renewable energy sources"
You have the reading comprehension of a 5-year-old. Read the newspaper article
again and find out what Costa Rica has done and what it plans to do.
Why do you deniers pick on a single word like 'ban' in a newspaper article and
stretch it an idiotic attempt prove anything you want.
Denialist scum have no interest in facts.
JTEM is right
2018-05-11 21:26:46 UTC
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You have the reading comprehension of a 5-year-old. Read the newspaper
article again and find out what Costa Rica has done and what it plans to do.
"What it plans to do" means it hasn't done it.

This is remedial English, which explains your
difficulties.




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Kibbu Ubik
2018-05-12 13:52:35 UTC
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Post by Kibbu Ubik
You have the reading comprehension of a 5-year-old. Read the newspaper
article again and find out what Costa Rica has done and what it plans to do.
"What it plans to do" means it hasn't done it.
This is remedial English, which explains your
difficulties.
here from the article, bonehead:-

* Costa Rica's electricity generated by renewables for 300 days in 2017
* Costa Rica already generates more than 99 per cent of its electricity
using renewable energy sources

The fact that they aim/planto stop using *all* fossil fuels is a good
thing isn't it? Things rarely happen without planning. Is the USA
planning to stop using using all fossil fuels? Not while no-nothings
like trump are in power.
JTEM is right
2018-05-13 05:13:30 UTC
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Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
* Costa Rica's electricity generated by renewables for 300 days in 2017
* Costa Rica already generates more than 99 per cent of its electricity
using renewable energy sources
Vermont generates 100% of it's electricity via
renewables... which amounts to something like
30% of their needs. So they have to import the
rest of their electricity from the grid, coming
from Canada and the rest of New England.




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Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
The fact that they aim/planto stop using *all* fossil fuels is a good
thing isn't it? Things rarely happen without planning. Is the USA
planning to stop using using all fossil fuels? Not while no-nothings
like trump are in power.
Unum
2018-05-13 19:47:39 UTC
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Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
* Costa Rica's electricity generated by renewables for 300 days in 2017
* Costa Rica already generates more than 99 per cent of its electricity
using renewable energy sources
Vermont generates 100% of it's electricity via
renewables... which amounts to something like
30% of their needs. So they have to import the
rest of their electricity from the grid, coming
from Canada and the rest of New England.
That has absolutely nothing to do with Costa Rica, fruitcake. And it
also appears to be an outright lie which is nothing unusual.

http://publicservice.vermont.gov/renewable_energy

With the passage of Act 56 in 2015, Vermont established a Renewable Energy
Standard (RES) that requires utilities, by 2032, to:

Meet 75% of generation with renewable energy (55% in 2017)
JTEM is right
2018-05-13 19:52:56 UTC
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With the passage of Act 56 in 2015, Vermont established a Renewable Energy
Meet 75% of generation with renewable energy (55% in 2017)
Roughly 70% of all of Vermont's electric power comes
from out of state. Yes, all the power they generate is
with renewables, but they don't generate anywhere near
enough power to live off of.

"Renewables" include burning wood, which has way more
CO2 than any fossil fuel including coal...





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Unum
2018-05-13 20:59:32 UTC
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Post by Unum
With the passage of Act 56 in 2015, Vermont established a Renewable Energy
Meet 75% of generation with renewable energy (55% in 2017)
Roughly 70% of all of Vermont's electric power comes
from out of state. Yes, all the power they generate is
with renewables, but they don't generate anywhere near
enough power to live off of.
Why does the fruitcake constantly lie? (55% in 2017)
Post by JTEM is right
"Renewables" include burning wood, which has way more
CO2 than any fossil fuel including coal...
But wood is, in fact, a renewable resource.
JTEM is right
2018-05-13 21:08:20 UTC
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Why does
https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=VT

: One in six Vermont households uses wood products,
: such as wood pellets, as their primary heating source.

Wood, as we all know, has a much higher CO2
content than does fossil fuels, including coal.


: Vermont produces less than 35% of the electricity it
: consumes and depends on power from the New England
: grid and Canada.

So Vermont is one of the extreme few "Success" stories
for alternative energy, and it's a total flop!





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Unum
2018-05-14 22:12:30 UTC
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Post by Unum
Why does
https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=VT
: One in six Vermont households uses wood products,
: such as wood pellets, as their primary heating source.
Wood, as we all know, has a much higher CO2
content than does fossil fuels, including coal.
But wood is, in fact, renewable. Unlike fossil fuels.
Post by JTEM is right
: Vermont produces less than 35% of the electricity it
: consumes and depends on power from the New England
: grid and Canada.
So Vermont is one of the extreme few "Success" stories
for alternative energy, and it's a total flop!
The electricity imported from canada is hydroelectric.

"In 2016, nearly all of Vermont's in-state net electricity generation was
produced by renewable energy, including hydroelectric, biomass, wind, and
solar resources."

R Kym Horsell
2018-05-13 21:52:04 UTC
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Post by Unum
With the passage of Act 56 in 2015, Vermont established a Renewable Energy
Meet 75% of generation with renewable energy (55% in 2017)
Roughly 70% of all of Vermont's electric power comes
from out of state. Yes, all the power they generate is
with renewables, but they don't generate anywhere near
enough power to live off of.
Why does the fruitcake constantly lie? (55% in 2017)
Post by JTEM is right
"Renewables" include burning wood, which has way more
CO2 than any fossil fuel including coal...
But wood is, in fact, a renewable resource.
Hillbillies don't understand wood is made out of CO2 extracted from
the atm and can at most return that amt if burned.
--
["Permian conditions can't happen again":]

Tom Curtis [SKS author & moderator] at 18:52 PM on 3 April, 2014

[B]ased on figure 3A of Royer (2006), late Permian CO2 levels were
around 2300 ppmv, while end Permian and very early Triassic levels
were around 3300 ppmv. These figures have very low temporal
resolution, and my not be accurate for the million years on either
side of the Permian/Triassic extinction -- but I will use them as a
working hypothesis.

Based on these figures, there was a CO2 forcing relative to the
preindustrial era of 11.3 W/m^2 prior to the end Permian extinction,
rising to 13.2 W/m^2 after. Of course, the sun was also less active
at the time of the end Permian extinction -- 2.14% less active to be
precise. That equates to a solar forcing of -5.1 W/m^2. The net
change in forcing was, therefore, from 6.2 to 8.1 W/m^2; equivalent to
the change in forcing from 464 to 610 ppmv, ie, the change in forcing
from about twenty years from now to early to mid twenty-second century
with BAU.

Of course, these figures are far from definitive. For a start, the
temporal resolution of the CO2 concentration figures are far too
inadequate to draw any strong conclusion. Further, I have not
accounted for changes in albedo due to changes in position of the
continents, and the lack of large ice sheets at or near sea level in
the late Permian. I certainly would not conclude from these figures
that we are facing an end Permian extinction with BAU, although I
cannot exclude it either. What I can conclude is that any argument
that start with the high CO2 levels in the Permian and concludes that
nothing similar could happen now is simplistic in the extreme. It
almost certainly does not factor in the cooler Permian Sun, let alone
a host of other relevant factors.

-- http://www.skepticalscience.com/Lee-commentary-on-Burgess-et-al-PNAS-Permian-Dating.html
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Hillbillies don't understand wood is made out of CO2 extracted from
the atm and can at most return that amt if burned.
This is true for oil, coal and natural gas as
well... and shale oil... and bitumen...

But the problem is that the tree is at least 30
years old or so, when you burn it, and it takes
more than one tree to get you through the year,
so you're burning 60, 90 or even 120 years worth
of CO2 in a single year.

...and then there's population growth. So
every year you need to burn more trees than the
year before... each one of those trees releasing
30 years worth of CO2 at a time...

In short: You need to be growing 30 trees, at
a minimum, for every one you're burning this
year. Even simple math will tell you that you
eventually run out of space to plant new trees,
because of population/economic growth, AND the
fact that you need 30 trees to absorb as much
CO2 as released from the ONE you're burning this
year.

You've heard of "Peak Oil" but we'd hit "Peak
Tree" in no time!

This is yet another short sighted, ignorant,
fantasy based "Solution."






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Unum
2018-05-14 22:07:42 UTC
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Post by R Kym Horsell
Hillbillies don't understand wood is made out of CO2 extracted from
the atm and can at most return that amt if burned.
This is yet another short sighted, ignorant,
fantasy based "Solution."
Nobody was suggesting that burning trees is a solution, you
sad little moron. But it sure is better than digging up
carbon deeply sequestered millions of years ago and burning
it into the atmosphere.
Bret Cahill
2018-05-12 14:37:29 UTC
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Post by Kibbu Ubik
Read the newspaper
article again and find out what Costa Rica has done and what it plans to do.
"What it plans to do" means it hasn't done it.
It aint like deniers can plan so planning dont matter.
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