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Record-breaking California fire may take until September to contain
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Unum
2018-08-09 23:24:28 UTC
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Nutjobs on the internet say it is good for forests to burn down.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/08/us/california-fires/index.html

It may take until September to contain the largest fire in California history,
which is bigger than the size of the city of Los Angeles.

"It is climate change that is causing this," said Michael Mohler, spokesman
for Cal Fire. "There is no other way to explain explosive fuel conditions that
come with increased winds and higher temperatures."

California has more than 100 million dead trees due to drought and infestation
from bark beetles. Dead trees pose a major hazard as they allow wildfires to
spread rapidly in hot, dry conditions. Cal Fire's vegetation management crews
are out year-round to thin and remove such trees while also doing prescribed
burns.

About $70 million of ongoing resources have been added to the state budget in
the past four years to provide additional fire suppression resources,
according to Ali Bay, spokesman for the governor. Approximately $800 million
has been added for projects focused on the prevention of forest fires,
including more fire prevention inspections and projects, removal of dead trees
and other fuel reduction activities and projects.

Experts also cite hotter temperatures causing lengthier fire seasons that burn
up dry, dead vegetation as factors for more wildfires.

This past July was California's hottest month on record, topping the previous
record that had been set in July 1931, according to the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration. The three biggest fires currently burning in
California all started in July.

Climate change has increased the length of fire season, said Malcolm North,
research scientist for the US Forest Service Pacific SW Research Station.
"Now they are pretty much combustible year-round," said North, who is also an
affiliate professor at UC Davis.

"With climate change, we pretty much know there will be an increase in extreme
fire weather.
R Kym Horsell
2018-08-10 00:06:48 UTC
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Post by Unum
Nutjobs on the internet say it is good for forests to burn down.
One shopkeeper notices his address is slightly mo bullet proof dan
his compeditor next door.

Moral: bullets is oberall good fer bidness!
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/08/us/california-fires/index.html
It may take until September to contain the largest fire in California history,
which is bigger than the size of the city of Los Angeles.
"It is climate change that is causing this," said Michael Mohler, spokesman
for Cal Fire. "There is no other way to explain explosive fuel conditions that
come with increased winds and higher temperatures."
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AlleyCat
2018-08-10 00:29:52 UTC
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On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:24:28 -0500, Unum says...
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California has more than 100 million dead trees due to drought and infestation
from bark beetles.
Clean up the dead trees, moron, and they haven't the same problem, but
noooooo... they'd rather spend money on ways to make ILLEGAL Mexicans
legal, so they'd eventually vote Democrat.

It's really sad, you know... you fucktards on the left need FOREIGNERS to
fill your voter roles to MAYBE compete with right-thinking people.

Oh... and... these fires wouldn't start without YOU snowflake lie-berals
being all butthurt about Paris and Trump. [giggle]


(CNN) A man accused of starting a wildfire in the San Bernardino
National Forest faces five counts of arson in the blaze, which
destroyed homes and prompted the evacuation of the town of
Idyllwild and several other communities, authorities said.

Brandon N. McGlover, 32, of Temecula was detained Wednesday and
charged with arson to wildland, the Riverside County Fire
Department and Cal Fire said.

Authorities believe McGlover set multiple fires Wednesday in
Riverside County, including the Cranston Fire.

The suspect could not be reached for comment, and it was not
immediately clear whether he had an attorney.

More than 700 firefighters are battling that blaze, which has
scorched 7,500 acres and is only 5% contained, officials with
the San Bernardino National Forest said. The fire is about 15
miles southwest of Palm Springs and 35 miles southeast of
Riverside.

Several homes and cabins seemed to have gone up in flames, video
recorded from helicopters by CNN affiliates appears to show.
Other homes looked to be covered with red flame retardant.

Evacuation orders are in place for about 16,000 people in the
town of Idyllwild, the community of Mountain Center and the
areas of Apple Canyon, Hurkey Creek and Lake Hemet. Evacuation
orders are no longer in effect for Fern Valley and Pine Cove.

A fire engine sits on the front-lines of the Cranston Fire, which
has grown to 4,700 acres and is only 5% contained.

Massive amounts of smoke were seen rising from the San Jacinto
Mountains as an airplane dropped retardant on the fire, a video
posted Wednesday night by Twitter user Captain Woody shows.

"From Pine Cove. Packing up," he wrote.

The area around Idyllwild was the site of a massive wildfire in
July 2013 that burned more than 27,000 acres.

CNN's Jenn Selva, Joe Sutton, Nicole Chavez and Dakin Andone
contributed to this report.

Lost everything to fire? Thank Jerry Brown and the Democrat
party.

Because the mentally ill have rights.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/us/california-cranston-
fire/index.html
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Unum
2018-08-10 03:09:27 UTC
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On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:24:28 -0500, Unum says...
Post by Unum
California has more than 100 million dead trees due to drought and infestation
from bark beetles.
Clean up the dead trees, moron, and they haven't the same problem, but
noooooo... they'd rather spend money on ways to make ILLEGAL Mexicans
legal, so they'd eventually vote Democrat.
ratboy wants all the trees to die, and for someone to go out and pick
them all up.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/08/us/california-fires/index.html

It may take until September to contain the largest fire in California history,
which is bigger than the size of the city of Los Angeles.

"It is climate change that is causing this," said Michael Mohler, spokesman
for Cal Fire. "There is no other way to explain explosive fuel conditions that
come with increased winds and higher temperatures."

California has more than 100 million dead trees due to drought and infestation
from bark beetles. Dead trees pose a major hazard as they allow wildfires to
spread rapidly in hot, dry conditions. Cal Fire's vegetation management crews
are out year-round to thin and remove such trees while also doing prescribed
burns.

About $70 million of ongoing resources have been added to the state budget in
the past four years to provide additional fire suppression resources,
according to Ali Bay, spokesman for the governor. Approximately $800 million
has been added for projects focused on the prevention of forest fires,
including more fire prevention inspections and projects, removal of dead trees
and other fuel reduction activities and projects.

Experts also cite hotter temperatures causing lengthier fire seasons that burn
up dry, dead vegetation as factors for more wildfires.

This past July was California's hottest month on record, topping the previous
record that had been set in July 1931, according to the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration. The three biggest fires currently burning in
California all started in July.

Climate change has increased the length of fire season, said Malcolm North,
research scientist for the US Forest Service Pacific SW Research Station.
"Now they are pretty much combustible year-round," said North, who is also an
affiliate professor at UC Davis.

"With climate change, we pretty much know there will be an increase in extreme
fire weather.
AlleyCat
2018-08-10 11:06:12 UTC
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On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 22:09:27 -0500, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Post by AlleyCat
Clean up the dead trees, moron, and they haven't the same problem, but
noooooo... they'd rather spend money on ways to make ILLEGAL Mexicans
legal, so they'd eventually vote Democrat.
ratboy wants all the trees to die
Realllly? Show me where that is said, mommy's little basement dweller.

Clean up the dead trees, moron, and they haven't the same problem, but
noooooo... they'd rather spend money on ways to make ILLEGAL Mexicans
legal, so they'd eventually vote Democrat.

It's really sad, you know... you fucktards on the left need FOREIGNERS to
fill your voter roles to MAYBE compete with right-thinking people.

Oh... and... these fires wouldn't start without YOU snowflake lie-berals
being all butthurt about Paris and Trump. [giggle]


(CNN) A man accused of starting a wildfire in the San Bernardino
National Forest faces five counts of arson in the blaze, which
destroyed homes and prompted the evacuation of the town of
Idyllwild and several other communities, authorities said.

Brandon N. McGlover, 32, of Temecula was detained Wednesday and
charged with arson to wildland, the Riverside County Fire
Department and Cal Fire said.

Authorities believe McGlover set multiple fires Wednesday in
Riverside County, including the Cranston Fire.

The suspect could not be reached for comment, and it was not
immediately clear whether he had an attorney.

More than 700 firefighters are battling that blaze, which has
scorched 7,500 acres and is only 5% contained, officials with
the San Bernardino National Forest said. The fire is about 15
miles southwest of Palm Springs and 35 miles southeast of
Riverside.

Several homes and cabins seemed to have gone up in flames, video
recorded from helicopters by CNN affiliates appears to show.
Other homes looked to be covered with red flame retardant.

Evacuation orders are in place for about 16,000 people in the
town of Idyllwild, the community of Mountain Center and the
areas of Apple Canyon, Hurkey Creek and Lake Hemet. Evacuation
orders are no longer in effect for Fern Valley and Pine Cove.

A fire engine sits on the front-lines of the Cranston Fire, which
has grown to 4,700 acres and is only 5% contained.

Massive amounts of smoke were seen rising from the San Jacinto
Mountains as an airplane dropped retardant on the fire, a video
posted Wednesday night by Twitter user Captain Woody shows.

"From Pine Cove. Packing up," he wrote.

The area around Idyllwild was the site of a massive wildfire in
July 2013 that burned more than 27,000 acres.

CNN's Jenn Selva, Joe Sutton, Nicole Chavez and Dakin Andone
contributed to this report.

Lost everything to fire? Thank Jerry Brown and the Democrat
party.

Because the mentally ill have rights.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/us/california-cranston-
fire/index.html
AlleyCat
2018-08-10 22:32:25 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 04:53:10 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
... Heat Waves...
LOL... ya... like we've NEVER had any of those.

Chicken Little screeches again!!

What do you supposed the CO² level was in 1315??

1315) Great European Drought and Famine Creating the worst Drought and
Famine ever seen in Europe, the Great Drought and Famine of 1315-
1317, also known as the Great European Drought and Famine, was
actually a series of crises. The tragedy, that killed an estimated
7.5 million people, was caused by strange weather and unrelenting
rains.

1601) Russian Drought and Famine of 1601--03 Killing one-third of
the population.

1630) India... Deccan drought and Famine of 1630 -- 32 An estimated two
million perished.

1770) Bengal Drought and Famine of 1770 - An estimated 15 million perished
in the Drought and Famine

1868) Finnish Drought and Famine of 1866--68 Killed between 15 and 20
percent of the population in the area or roughly 150,000 people.

1878) Indian Great Drought and Famine of 1876--78 This tragedy that took
the lives of as many as 10.3 million.

1879) Northern Chinese Drought and Famine Lasted from 1876 to 1879 and is
believed to have killed 13 million people.

1902) India Drought and Famine: Took place between 1896 and 1902, claiming
an estimated 19 million lives.

1907) Chinese Drought and Famine of 1907 In a matter of months an
estimated 24 million people were killed. (California drought was
YUGE... he said sarcastically)

1921) Russian Drought and Famine of 1921 It killed as many as 10 million.

1933) Soviet Drought and Famine of 1932--33 Between seven and 10 million
were killed

1930) Chinese Drought and Famine of 1928--30 Killed an estimated three
million people over the three-year span.

1941) Chinese Drought 1941 An estimated three million perished.

1943) Bengal Drought and Famine of 1943 Killed between 1.4 and 4 million
people

1945) Vietnamese Drought and Famine of 1945 Overall, between 400,000 and
two million perished as a result.
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AlleyCat
2018-08-10 22:32:26 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 04:53:10 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
Meteorologists and climatologists have made it clear that it is
difficult to connect singular weather events to climate change.
LOL

You can post all the shit you want on climate change, dumbass... the
climate changes... we KNOW this.

What? You've never heard that the climate changed LONNNNNNNNG before man
came along? You went to public school, eh?

Someone came along and switched out your text books that taught that, with
ones that blame man for everything bad that has happened to the Earth,
right? Liberalism, really is a disease.

NO WHERE in your article does it PROVE that man is causing the climate to
change.

NO WHERE.

The Earth is warming BACK up to where the temps USED to be and the climate
changes when that happens, moron. It's as simple as that. Where did you
get the idea, that the weather, climate and temperature were NEVER suppose
to change? Michael Mann? Al Gore? LOL

Isn't it just a little bit disingenuous that we use the mid-1800s as a
"baseline" for when weather, climate and temperature was "normal", even
though it was NOT normal? The "baseline" is taken RIGHT after Earth was
coming out of an relatively COOL time... the "Little Ice Age", and
temperatures were ALREADY starting to rise again.

You don't use cool periods on Earth to start your baseline.

If you look back into the past, you'll see that what is happening now, has
happened MANY times before.

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It's "weather" when the temperatures don't agree with what climate
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Unum
2018-08-11 00:00:22 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:24:28 -0500, Unum says...
Post by Unum
California has more than 100 million dead trees due to drought and infestation
from bark beetles.
Clean up the dead trees, moron, and they haven't the same problem, but
Who is going to pay to clean up the 100 million dead trees caused
by global warming, dumbass?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/08/us/california-fires/index.html

It may take until September to contain the largest fire in California history,
which is bigger than the size of the city of Los Angeles.

"It is climate change that is causing this," said Michael Mohler, spokesman
for Cal Fire. "There is no other way to explain explosive fuel conditions that
come with increased winds and higher temperatures."

California has more than 100 million dead trees due to drought and infestation
from bark beetles. Dead trees pose a major hazard as they allow wildfires to
spread rapidly in hot, dry conditions. Cal Fire's vegetation management crews
are out year-round to thin and remove such trees while also doing prescribed
burns.

About $70 million of ongoing resources have been added to the state budget in
the past four years to provide additional fire suppression resources,
according to Ali Bay, spokesman for the governor. Approximately $800 million
has been added for projects focused on the prevention of forest fires,
including more fire prevention inspections and projects, removal of dead trees
and other fuel reduction activities and projects.

Experts also cite hotter temperatures causing lengthier fire seasons that burn
up dry, dead vegetation as factors for more wildfires.

This past July was California's hottest month on record, topping the previous
record that had been set in July 1931, according to the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration. The three biggest fires currently burning in
California all started in July.

Climate change has increased the length of fire season, said Malcolm North,
research scientist for the US Forest Service Pacific SW Research Station.
"Now they are pretty much combustible year-round," said North, who is also an
affiliate professor at UC Davis.

"With climate change, we pretty much know there will be an increase in extreme
fire weather.
AlleyCat
2018-08-11 00:32:06 UTC
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You fucking basement dwelling moron... warmth ONLY doesn't kill trees,
else we'd HAVE no trees at all. There are myriad reasons why trees die.
Find the percentage of how many trees in California have died from
"warmth" alone.

Chicken shit won't even try.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 19:00:22 -0500, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Post by AlleyCat
Clean up the dead trees, moron, and they haven't the same problem, but
Who is going to pay to clean up the 100 million dead trees caused
by global warming, dumbass?
California could EASILY pay for the cleanup, if they'd stop spending money
on supplying ILLEGAL aliens with free food, housing and medical.

It's very doubtful that $30 BILLION dollars wouldn't help to clean up the
dead trees.

=====

Illegal Immigration Costs California $30.29 Billion A Year - 17.7 Percent
Of State Budget

Illegal immigrants and their children cost the State of California roughly
$30.29 billion per year in net costs. This works out to $7,352 per
illegal alien, or ~17.7 percent of California's state budget.

Of course, many of these costs are absorbed by local jurisdictions and the
federal government, but the drain on the State of California remains
significant. As such, the question is no longer whether California ought
to allow illegal immigration - it's whether the State can afford it.

Illegal immigration is expensive: two recent studies from the Federation
for American Immigration Reform and the National Economics Editorial peg
the annual cost of illegal immigration to America between $135 and $140
billion. And of all the states, California bears the largest burden due
to its sizable illegal population.

https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/02/21/costs-illegal-
immigration-california/

Dumbass.
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Bret Cahill
2018-08-11 05:00:07 UTC
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Post by Unum
Nutjobs on the internet say it is good for forests to burn down.
Mebbe deniers support site value taxation where market forces drive 'em back to libin in San Francisco.
Post by Unum
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/08/us/california-fires/index.html
It may take until September to contain the largest fire in California history,
which is bigger than the size of the city of Los Angeles.
"It is climate change that is causing this," said Michael Mohler, spokesman
for Cal Fire. "There is no other way to explain explosive fuel conditions that
come with increased winds and higher temperatures."
California has more than 100 million dead trees due to drought and infestation
from bark beetles.
Next year during the tRUMP/Koch/GOP crank economics Great Depression II on Steroids start a CCC or WPA program to pay the 50 million unemployed to pull the fuel out and convert it to bio char as a soil amendment.


Bret Cahill

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