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carbon sequestration costs slashed from $24 tr/yr to only $4 tr/yr
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2018-06-08 09:12:39 UTC
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Key 'step forward' in cutting cost of removing CO2 from air
Canadian firm Carbon Engineering say they have taken a big step
forward on cutting the costs of direct air extraction, the BBC
reports. The firm published a peer-reviewed study showing that they
can capture carbon for under $100 a tonne, which would be a major
advance on the current price of around $600 per tonne. The team say
their process would carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and turn it
into gasoline or other fuels, CNBC reports. David Keith, a Harvard
University professor and co-founder of the company, says the process
will eventually be able to produce fuel for about $4 a gallon,
Bloomberg reports. "The key thing that the company's done from the
beginning is focus on doing this in a way that is industrially
scalable," said Keith. The Economist notes that recycling CO2 as fuel
means that Carbon Engineering's business model offers zero, rather
than truly negative, emissions. Ars Technica, Reuters and the Atlantic
also have the story. -- Matt McGrath, BBC News

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Perth weather: Cold snap as winter hits southern half of WA with a vengeance
ABC News, 08 Jun 2018 11:28am
Winter has hit Perth with a shock after temperatures dipped to 4.7 degrees
Celsius, making this morning the coldest day of the year so far.

BC company Carbon Engineering says it can extract CO2 from air for $100/t
ABC News, 08 Jun 2018 01:41Z
[Current rate approx $600/t. CE says its process also uses 30x less
land area than biofuels].

Guest post: A new way to assess `global warming potential' of
short-lived pollutants
In a guest post for Carbon Brief, researcher Dr Michelle Cain looks at
the use of the metric "global warming potential" (GWP), which allows
all greenhouse gases to be treated as "CO2-equivalent". However, she
says, GWP misrepresents the impact of short-lived climate pollutants,
such as methane, on future warming. Modifying it could better link
emissions to warming, and make a huge difference to how progress is
judged in countries with high methane emissions.
-- Michelle Cain, Carbon Brief

Internal variability in European summer temperatures at 1.5C and 2C of
global warming
European summer temperatures at 2C warming are on average 1C higher
than at 1.5C of global warming. In a 2C warmer world, one out of every
two European summer months would be warmer than ever observed in our
current climate. Daily maximum temperature anomalies for extreme
events reach levels of 7C at 2C warming and 5.5C at 1.5C warming. The
largest differences are over southern Europe, where they find the
highest mean temperature increase. However, due to the large effect of
internal variability, only 4 out of every 10 summer months in a 2C
warmer world present mean temperatures that could be distinguishable
from those in a 1.5C world. The distinguishability between the two
climates is largest over southern Europe. Furthermore, 10% of the most
extreme and severe summer maximum temperatures in a 2C world could be
avoided by limiting global warming to 1.5C. -- Environmental Research Letters

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Wally W.
2018-06-08 13:17:37 UTC
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Key 'step forward' in cutting cost of removing CO2 from air
Canadian firm Carbon Engineering say they have taken a big step
forward on cutting the costs of direct air extraction, the BBC
reports. The firm published a peer-reviewed study showing that they
can capture carbon for under $100 a tonne, which would be a major
advance on the current price of around $600 per tonne.
... to be paid for with a "carbon tax" of $25/ton.
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The team say
their process would carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and turn it
into gasoline or other fuels,
... which would be burned and spew CO2 ... to be re-removed by their
wonder machine ... to be turned into fuel ...

It would appear that these people listen to themselves at all.

Why should anyone else?

Extract CO2 from the air (with energy from where?) at a huge cost to
make CO2-emitting fuels!

(DUH!)^3

How much sense can the bot have to parrot this crap?

Why won't its creator pull the plug on this failed experiment?
Wally W.
2018-06-08 13:28:36 UTC
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The Economist notes that recycling CO2 as fuel
means that Carbon Engineering's business model offers zero, rather
than truly negative, emissions
Why would there not be positive CO2 emissions from this brain fart
that costs ***only*** $4 trillion per year?

Whence the energy input for this process? Does the process have an
energy efficiency of 100 percent?

Lessee ... spend (only) $4 trillion/year to obtain fuel that contains
less energy than was put into the process, with net positive CO2
emissions from the product-cycle -- all to "save the planet."

Typical greenie brain fart. Maybe set that one on the shelf next to
their "burning food" idea.
Wally W.
2018-06-08 13:40:34 UTC
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The Economist notes that recycling CO2 as fuel
means that Carbon Engineering's business model offers zero, rather
than truly negative, emissions.
Maybe The ***Economist*** should note that the purpose of a business
model is to provide a positive return for investors.

Saving the planet is a religious pursuit.

Recognized religions usually have non-profit status.

Greenies don't want their elephant in the room to be called a
religion. They have no problem with a "business model" that is as
ridiculous as their religion.

http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/02/07/the-great-delusion/#more-12926
"In centuries hence the global warming boogey man will be seen for
exactly what it is -- The Great Delusion. Future generations will
wonder how so many people could have believed something so suicidally
ridiculous."
Bret Cahill
2018-06-08 14:35:56 UTC
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Key 'step forward' in cutting cost of removing CO2 from air
Canadian firm Carbon Engineering say they have taken a big step
forward on cutting the costs of direct air extraction, the BBC
reports. The firm published a peer-reviewed study showing that they
can capture carbon for under $100 a tonne,
If deniers cannot afford that they need to go out and get a tRUMP "bring home the bacon" job.
Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
which would be a major
advance on the current price of around $600 per tonne.
Basically game changing.
Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
The team say
their process would carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and turn it
into gasoline or other fuels, CNBC reports. David Keith, a Harvard
University professor and co-founder of the company, says the process
will eventually be able to produce fuel for about $4 a gallon,
Bloomberg reports. "The key thing that the company's done from the
beginning is focus on doing this in a way that is industrially
scalable," said Keith. The Economist notes that recycling CO2 as fuel
means that Carbon Engineering's business model offers zero, rather
than truly negative, emissions. Ars Technica, Reuters and the Atlantic
also have the story. -- Matt McGrath, BBC News
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Male dolphins in the Shark Bay world heritage site use individual names for
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and researchers now think they know how it works.
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OPEC: Azerbaijan has 7bln barrels of confirmed oil resources
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Due to higher costs, coal and even gas are being utilized less and less in
favor of lower priced and less polluting renewables.
Image source: Think Progress and Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
Perth weather: Cold snap as winter hits southern half of WA with a vengeance
ABC News, 08 Jun 2018 11:28am
Winter has hit Perth with a shock after temperatures dipped to 4.7 degrees
Celsius, making this morning the coldest day of the year so far.
BC company Carbon Engineering says it can extract CO2 from air for $100/t
ABC News, 08 Jun 2018 01:41Z
[Current rate approx $600/t. CE says its process also uses 30x less
land area than biofuels].
Guest post: A new way to assess `global warming potential' of
short-lived pollutants
In a guest post for Carbon Brief, researcher Dr Michelle Cain looks at
the use of the metric "global warming potential" (GWP), which allows
all greenhouse gases to be treated as "CO2-equivalent". However, she
says, GWP misrepresents the impact of short-lived climate pollutants,
such as methane, on future warming. Modifying it could better link
emissions to warming, and make a huge difference to how progress is
judged in countries with high methane emissions.
-- Michelle Cain, Carbon Brief
Internal variability in European summer temperatures at 1.5C and 2C of
global warming
European summer temperatures at 2C warming are on average 1C higher
than at 1.5C of global warming. In a 2C warmer world, one out of every
two European summer months would be warmer than ever observed in our
current climate. Daily maximum temperature anomalies for extreme
events reach levels of 7C at 2C warming and 5.5C at 1.5C warming. The
largest differences are over southern Europe, where they find the
highest mean temperature increase. However, due to the large effect of
internal variability, only 4 out of every 10 summer months in a 2C
warmer world present mean temperatures that could be distinguishable
from those in a 1.5C world. The distinguishability between the two
climates is largest over southern Europe. Furthermore, 10% of the most
extreme and severe summer maximum temperatures in a 2C world could be
avoided by limiting global warming to 1.5C. -- Environmental Research Letters
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Wally W.
2018-06-09 05:49:52 UTC
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Key 'step forward' in cutting cost of removing CO2 from air
Canadian firm Carbon Engineering say they have taken a big step
forward on cutting the costs of direct air extraction, the BBC
reports. The firm published a peer-reviewed study showing that they
can capture carbon for under $100 a tonne,
If deniers cannot afford that they need to go out and get a tRUMP "bring home the bacon" job.
Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
which would be a major
advance on the current price of around $600 per tonne.
Of the 148 lines Bret posted, two were his.
Post by Bret Cahill
Basically game changing.
Add some graphene and Accident will be in your choir.
Bret Cahill
2018-06-10 16:08:44 UTC
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Key 'step forward' in cutting cost of removing CO2 from air
Canadian firm Carbon Engineering say they have taken a big step
forward on cutting the costs of direct air extraction, the BBC
reports. The firm published a peer-reviewed study showing that they
can capture carbon for under $100 a tonne,
15 cents / liter.
Post by Bret Cahill
If deniers cannot afford that they need to go out and get a tRUMP "bring home the bacon" job.
Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
which would be a major
advance on the current price of around $600 per tonne.
Basically game changing.
Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
The team say
their process would carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and turn it
into gasoline or other fuels, CNBC reports. David Keith, a Harvard
University professor and co-founder of the company, says the process
will eventually be able to produce fuel for about $4 a gallon,
Bloomberg reports. "The key thing that the company's done from the
beginning is focus on doing this in a way that is industrially
scalable," said Keith. The Economist notes that recycling CO2 as fuel
means that Carbon Engineering's business model offers zero, rather
than truly negative, emissions. Ars Technica, Reuters and the Atlantic
also have the story. -- Matt McGrath, BBC News
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Shark Bay dolphins use 'unusual' method of keeping track of friend or foe
ABC News, 07 Jun 2018 16:23Z
Male dolphins in the Shark Bay world heritage site use individual names for
each other rather than a group name, but can still recognise friend from foe,
and researchers now think they know how it works.
The DoE May Bail Out Failing Coal Plants in the Name of National ...
Futurism, 04 Jun 2018
The Trump administration's latest plan to "save" coal? Force companies to
pay for it. In the United States, coal and nuclear power are on their ...
OPEC finds global proven crude oil reserves fell 0.4% to 1.483 tr ...
Platts, 07 Jun 2018 12:35Z
Global proven crude oil reserves declined 0.4% in 2017 from the 2016 level
to 1.483 tr barrels, while gas reserves rose 0.2% to 199.4 ...
China's secretive oil reserves are OPEC's latest concern in managing ...
Hellenic Shipping News Worldwide, 07 Jun 2018 10:35Z
OPEC: Azerbaijan has 7bln barrels of confirmed oil resources
APA, 07 Jun 2018 16:35Z
<https://robertscribbler.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/utilization-coal-and-gas.png?w=600&h=379>
Due to higher costs, coal and even gas are being utilized less and less in
favor of lower priced and less polluting renewables.
Image source: Think Progress and Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
Perth weather: Cold snap as winter hits southern half of WA with a vengeance
ABC News, 08 Jun 2018 11:28am
Winter has hit Perth with a shock after temperatures dipped to 4.7 degrees
Celsius, making this morning the coldest day of the year so far.
BC company Carbon Engineering says it can extract CO2 from air for $100/t
ABC News, 08 Jun 2018 01:41Z
[Current rate approx $600/t. CE says its process also uses 30x less
land area than biofuels].
Guest post: A new way to assess `global warming potential' of
short-lived pollutants
In a guest post for Carbon Brief, researcher Dr Michelle Cain looks at
the use of the metric "global warming potential" (GWP), which allows
all greenhouse gases to be treated as "CO2-equivalent". However, she
says, GWP misrepresents the impact of short-lived climate pollutants,
such as methane, on future warming. Modifying it could better link
emissions to warming, and make a huge difference to how progress is
judged in countries with high methane emissions.
-- Michelle Cain, Carbon Brief
Internal variability in European summer temperatures at 1.5C and 2C of
global warming
European summer temperatures at 2C warming are on average 1C higher
than at 1.5C of global warming. In a 2C warmer world, one out of every
two European summer months would be warmer than ever observed in our
current climate. Daily maximum temperature anomalies for extreme
events reach levels of 7C at 2C warming and 5.5C at 1.5C warming. The
largest differences are over southern Europe, where they find the
highest mean temperature increase. However, due to the large effect of
internal variability, only 4 out of every 10 summer months in a 2C
warmer world present mean temperatures that could be distinguishable
from those in a 1.5C world. The distinguishability between the two
climates is largest over southern Europe. Furthermore, 10% of the most
extreme and severe summer maximum temperatures in a 2C world could be
avoided by limiting global warming to 1.5C. -- Environmental Research Letters
Rising Seas Could Swell Arizona's Population
John Upton, Climate Central
Ban petrol cars by 2025, says Branson
Robert Lea, The Times
Ikea Sets New Climate Goals to Tackle Unsustainable Consumption
Anna Molin, Bloomberg
IKEA to use only renewable and recycled materials by 2030
Anna Ringstrom, Reuters
Women who refuse to have babies - to save the planet!
Antonia Hoyle, Daily Mail
Britain Has Gone Nine Days Without Wind Power
Rachel Morison, Bloomberg
Tiny shrimp could influence global climate changes
John Abraham, The Guardian
A bird's eye view of New Zealand's changing glaciers
Andrew Lorrey Andrew Mackintosh & Brian Anderson, The Conversation
Australia: Move to renewables a 'good thing', Nationals' David
Littleproud says
Katharine Murphy, Guardian
BoE to intensify climate change scrutiny of insurers
Huw Jones, Reuters
Facing a hat-trick of terrible UK energy policy decisions
Neil Collins, Financial Times
Court cases will expose Big Oil's hypocrisy on climate change
Dana Drugmand, Climate Home News
How Global Warming Is Shrinking Earth's Animals
Marta Zaraska, Scientific American
Australia: Climate change-related disaster relief is increasing demand
on Defence Dept, Senate hears
Ben Deacon, ABC News Australia
All at sea: Microsoft trials renewables-powered underwater Orkney data centre
Michael Holder, BusinessGreen
CO2 Levels Break Another Record, Exceeding 411 Parts Per Million
Yale Environment 360
Wally W.
2018-06-10 20:23:00 UTC
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Key 'step forward' in cutting cost of removing CO2 from air
Canadian firm Carbon Engineering say they have taken a big step
forward on cutting the costs of direct air extraction, the BBC
reports. The firm published a peer-reviewed study showing that they
can capture carbon for under $100 a tonne,
15 cents / liter.
Alarmists think changing the units change the engineering economics?

Purple math uses consistent units and may be beyond the ability of
greenies:
http://www.purplemath.com/modules/distance.htm
Warning: Make sure that the units for time and distance agree with the
units for the rate. ... Sometimes they try to trick you by using the
wrong units, and you have to catch this

One must be on guard for the trickery of alarmists, who may try to
rely on sleight of hand -- which they could try to pass off as
"settled science."


What is the magnitude of the carbon tax you want?

Is it less than $100 per tonne?

How many ways would the revenue from your carbon tax by dispersed ...
in addition to paying for the process in the brain fart parroted by
the bot?

The cost of this net-positive CO2 emissions brain fart has a negative
cash flow after whatever subsidies it gets from your carbon tax.

You're trying to make a pig look better by changing the color of its
lipstick.

Did your crickets think your conversion of units was worth posting, or
do you hear them only when you stop doing this:


The Simpsons - Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala
Bret Cahill
2018-06-10 21:41:56 UTC
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Key 'step forward' in cutting cost of removing CO2 from air
Canadian firm Carbon Engineering say they have taken a big step
forward on cutting the costs of direct air extraction, the BBC
reports. The firm published a peer-reviewed study showing that they
can capture carbon for under $100 a tonne,
15 cents / liter.
Alarmists think changing the units change the engineering economics?
Thas why tRUMP needs to build the border wall. Eber time 'merkins go to git a fillup in Maheko they think they gittin' a good deal when all they gittin is liters not gallons!
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2018-06-10 21:54:22 UTC
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Key 'step forward' in cutting cost of removing CO2 from air
Canadian firm Carbon Engineering say they have taken a big step
forward on cutting the costs of direct air extraction, the BBC
reports. The firm published a peer-reviewed study showing that they
can capture carbon for under $100 a tonne,
15 cents / liter.
Alarmists think changing the units change the engineering economics?
Thas why tRUMP needs to build the border wall. Eber time 'merkins go to git a fillup in Maheko they think they gittin' a good deal when all they gittin is liters not gallons!
Over here they're griping about the equiv of $US4.40/gal.
What you doin der?
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Evolution of TS impacting US48:

Date normal rainfall TS rainfall
1x1 deg box
(mm/mo)
1895 124 185
2010 145 222

\beta 0.188276 0.327064
95% CI 0.0544609 0.233328

TS bringing 20% more rain (about 33 mm) now than 100y ago
Areas not affected by TS are getting only about 19 mm more.
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Key 'step forward' in cutting cost of removing CO2 from air
Canadian firm Carbon Engineering say they have taken a big step
forward on cutting the costs of direct air extraction, the BBC
reports. The firm published a peer-reviewed study showing that they
can capture carbon for under $100 a tonne,
15 cents / liter.
Alarmists think changing the units change the engineering economics?
Thas why tRUMP needs to build the border wall. Eber time 'merkins go to git a fillup in Maheko they think they gittin' a good deal when all they gittin is liters not gallons!
Over here they're griping about the equiv of $US4.40/gal.
What you doin der?
In Canada we used to have Imperial gals and the
US had US gals. That was confusing to Americas so Canada went to
liters. So when we talk free trade we get the Americans to think
liters to gals but use Imperial gals. Fools them every time.

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2018-06-11 19:18:35 UTC
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Tropical forest, the Amazon, naturally sequester co2 and produce oxygen. Greenies will tell the lie that these jungles are carnbon neutral and that burning them does not affect atmospheric co2.

But if one just considers the amount of organic material carried by the Amazon River and deposited to the bottom of the ocean, one can see this is not true.

In a report from the British Royal Society aired on the BBC, it was stated that just the co2 from this burning is greater than that from all the world's transportation.

Presently, most of this burning is done to clear for the production of ethanol from sugar cane. It is much more profitable to clear new areas than cultivate land. So the soil is used to it's maximum and new areas are burned for the fertile soil of the rainforest.

Greenie environmentalism at it's best.
And machines to capture co2 run by nuclear reactors, I suppose.
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2018-06-11 19:48:19 UTC
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Totally stupid to spend trillions on machines to capture co2 if China, India and world emissions rates continue to climb rapidly.

Oh but we can rely on the scientific and intellectual authority of the Paris Accord, which has decided that world emissions have 'stabilized' according to some unknown statistics and reckoning, as the scientific basis for implementation into US law.

Validated by the whining that the US is the only country not participating.

And that although China is increasing their emission rate by 500-750 million tons of co2 per yr, most all of this from burning coal UNFILTERED, they are 'onboard' and ahead of the US in environmental concerns.
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2018-06-11 19:57:52 UTC
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And now China says they will go to all electric cars. This means they will run their transportation with the UNFILTERED BURNING OF COAL, added to their need for expanding their electric grid to about 1 billion people with coal fired plants.

30% of San Francisco's air pollution comes from China now.
Hope California entrepreneurs can come up with some lower emission fuels of co2 that addresses their environmental challenges.
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2018-06-10 22:37:51 UTC
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Key 'step forward' in cutting cost of removing CO2 from air
Canadian firm Carbon Engineering say they have taken a big step
forward on cutting the costs of direct air extraction, the BBC
reports. The firm published a peer-reviewed study showing that they
can capture carbon for under $100 a tonne,
15 cents / liter.
Alarmists think changing the units change the engineering economics?
Thas why tRUMP needs to build the border wall. Eber time 'merkins go to git a fillup in Maheko they think they gittin' a good deal when all they gittin is liters not gallons!
Why did *you* change the units?

Did it fool anyone to thinking it was a better deal?

Did it fool your crickets?

Even though the process doesn't seem to use graphene, I'll let
Accident speak for himself whether he saw your change in units affect
the direction of the cash flow if your entire carbon tax was funneled
into the brain fart parroted by the bot in the OP.
Bret Cahill
2018-06-10 23:51:19 UTC
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Key 'step forward' in cutting cost of removing CO2 from air
Canadian firm Carbon Engineering say they have taken a big step
forward on cutting the costs of direct air extraction, the BBC
reports. The firm published a peer-reviewed study showing that they
can capture carbon for under $100 a tonne,
15 cents / liter.
Alarmists think changing the units change the engineering economics?
Thas why tRUMP needs to build the border wall. Eber time 'merkins go to git a fillup in Maheko they think they gittin' a good deal when all they gittin is liters not gallons!
Why did *you* change the units?
Deniers buy fuel by the tonne?
Wally W.
2018-06-11 00:04:18 UTC
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Key 'step forward' in cutting cost of removing CO2 from air
Canadian firm Carbon Engineering say they have taken a big step
forward on cutting the costs of direct air extraction, the BBC
reports. The firm published a peer-reviewed study showing that they
can capture carbon for under $100 a tonne,
15 cents / liter.
Alarmists think changing the units change the engineering economics?
Thas why tRUMP needs to build the border wall. Eber time 'merkins go to git a fillup in Maheko they think they gittin' a good deal when all they gittin is liters not gallons!
Why did *you* change the units?
Deniers buy fuel by the tonne?
Alarmists want to mislead nonbelievers?

Engineering economics question for Bret: How long would it take for a
process that costs 15 cents per liter to be paid for by a
5-cents-per-liter carbon tax?

Ask Kymmie or his bot if you need help with decimal places.
JTEM is right
2018-06-08 17:08:25 UTC
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Actually Africa's GDP multiplied by two
would amount to $4.4 tr.

Still well within estimates -- well onto
the lower end of estimates... the lower
end of estimates.





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$27 TRILLION to PAY for KYOTO
2018-06-09 08:10:51 UTC
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What else can be done with $4,000,000,000,000?

-Build 16 million affordable housing units.
-Feed 1.5 billion people for a year.
-Pay down debt.
-Eradicate all forms of water pollution.
-Build 3000 power plants in the Third World.
-Erase the post-secondary education debt of every student in the U.S.
-Give every American taxpayer back $24,000.
Bret Cahill
2018-06-09 16:04:27 UTC
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What else can be done with $4,000,000,000,000?
-Build 16 million affordable housing units.
Is that a start on the 200 million units going under water due to SLR?
$27 TRILLION to PAY for KYOTO
2018-06-09 23:54:38 UTC
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What else can be done with $4,000,000,000,000?
-Build 16 million affordable housing units.
Is that a start on the 200 million units going under water due to SLR?
Don't build in flood planes. The coasts are fine. Al Gore spend $12M on a large house, right on an east coast beachfront.
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2018-06-10 01:47:50 UTC
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What else can be done with $4,000,000,000,000?
-Build 16 million affordable housing units.
Is that a start on the 200 million units going under water due to SLR?
<crickets>
JTEM is right
2018-06-10 16:14:59 UTC
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Headline: They claim they CAN do something
but have actually never done it!

Good news! All of our energy problems are
solved by something that doesn't exist! Just
like all the other "Breakthroughs" that solved
all of our problems in the last month alone!

....none existing storage systems, huge
savings from alternatives never seen... tidal
power no one uses... and now, well, and now a
scheme to turn air into gasoline that nobody
is doing!

Wow. Some people will believe anything...





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2018-06-10 20:45:45 UTC
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Headline: They claim they CAN do something
but have actually never done it!
Good news! All of our energy problems are
solved by something that doesn't exist! Just
like all the other "Breakthroughs" that solved
all of our problems in the last month alone!
....none existing storage systems, huge
savings from alternatives never seen... tidal
power no one uses... and now, well, and now a
scheme to turn air into gasoline that nobody
is doing!
Wow. Some people will believe anything...
Which makes selling snake oil easier than working ... until the
would-be marks become wise to their lies.

"I was a snake oil salesman for twenty years" won't look good on a
resume.

Mediocre weasels should get out of the game now. Those who don't fund
their retirement accounts with the deception now may get the disdain
they deserve when looking for a real job from companies who were
harmed by AGW bullshit.
Byker
2018-06-11 19:06:56 UTC
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Wow. Some people will believe anything...
Some still do: https://tinyurl.com/ybeaxqmw

http://www.comedycentral.co.uk/viral/articles/the-absolute-worst-daily-mail-covers-ever

http://www.lazerhorse.org/2014/05/07/sun-daily-mail-mirror-newspapers-brain-melters/#

https://www.flickr.com/photos/***@N04/5683784770/in/album-72157626637970276/

Some of our birdcage liners are running a close second:
https://tinyurl.com/yb93jtcw
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