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Climate Change Drives Bigger, Wetter Storms — Storms Like Florence
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Unum
2018-09-11 17:26:09 UTC
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Hurricane Florence is moving relentlessly toward the Southeastern U.S. It's a
large, powerful cyclone that will likely bring storm surge and high winds to
coastal communities.

But climate scientists say one of the biggest threats posed by Florence is
rain.

"Freshwater flooding poses the greatest risk to life," explains James Kossin,
an atmospheric scientist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration and the University of Wisconsin, Madison. And Florence could
cause extensive freshwater flooding for two reasons.

First, Florence is moving slowly and could all but stop when it reaches land.

Slow-moving storms like Harvey are getting more common. A study published
earlier this year by Kossin found that tropical cyclones around the world have
slowed down 10 percent in the past 70 years.

Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder,
Colo., says global warming also affects the size and intensity of storms like
Florence.

"We have global warming, and so this actually makes these storms bigger and
more intense," he explains. Humans burn fossil fuels in our cars, our power
plants and our airplanes, all of which release greenhouse gases that trap
heat. Warmer oceans, especially, provide fuel for hurricanes in the form of
evaporating moisture.

"The oceans are warmer now than they've ever been, and they're going steadily
upwards," Trenberth explains. In a study published in May, he and colleagues
found rain from Hurricane Harvey was powered by the highest ocean temperatures
ever recorded in the Gulf of Mexico.
Catoni
2018-09-11 23:38:47 UTC
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Thanks pal...... you fullfilled my prediction.... ha, ha, ha

Thread: "Leftist Warming Alarmist Screachers Ready to Blame Global Warming for Hurricane Florence."
by Catoni in alt.global-warming
Post by Unum
Hurricane Florence is moving relentlessly toward the Southeastern U.S. It's a
large, powerful cyclone that will likely bring storm surge and high winds to
coastal communities.
But climate scientists say one of the biggest threats posed by Florence is
rain.
"Freshwater flooding poses the greatest risk to life," explains James Kossin,
an atmospheric scientist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration and the University of Wisconsin, Madison. And Florence could
cause extensive freshwater flooding for two reasons.
First, Florence is moving slowly and could all but stop when it reaches land.
Slow-moving storms like Harvey are getting more common. A study published
earlier this year by Kossin found that tropical cyclones around the world have
slowed down 10 percent in the past 70 years.
Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder,
Colo., says global warming also affects the size and intensity of storms like
Florence.
"We have global warming, and so this actually makes these storms bigger and
more intense," he explains. Humans burn fossil fuels in our cars, our power
plants and our airplanes, all of which release greenhouse gases that trap
heat. Warmer oceans, especially, provide fuel for hurricanes in the form of
evaporating moisture.
"The oceans are warmer now than they've ever been, and they're going steadily
upwards," Trenberth explains. In a study published in May, he and colleagues
found rain from Hurricane Harvey was powered by the highest ocean temperatures
ever recorded in the Gulf of Mexico.
Unum
2018-09-11 23:56:11 UTC
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Thanks pal...... you fullfilled my prediction.... ha, ha, ha
Thread: "Leftist Warming Alarmist Screachers Ready to Blame Global Warming for Hurricane Florence."
by Catoni in alt.global-warming
Why did the hateful extremist lie yet again? Nowhere did the article blame
global warming for the hurricane.

Says very clearly below;
"makes these storms bigger and more intense"
"Slow-moving storms like Harvey are getting more common"

And in the thread title;
"Climate Change Drives Bigger, Wetter Storms"
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Post by Unum
Hurricane Florence is moving relentlessly toward the Southeastern U.S. It's a
large, powerful cyclone that will likely bring storm surge and high winds to
coastal communities.
But climate scientists say one of the biggest threats posed by Florence is
rain.
"Freshwater flooding poses the greatest risk to life," explains James Kossin,
an atmospheric scientist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration and the University of Wisconsin, Madison. And Florence could
cause extensive freshwater flooding for two reasons.
First, Florence is moving slowly and could all but stop when it reaches land.
Slow-moving storms like Harvey are getting more common. A study published
earlier this year by Kossin found that tropical cyclones around the world have
slowed down 10 percent in the past 70 years.
Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder,
Colo., says global warming also affects the size and intensity of storms like
Florence.
"We have global warming, and so this actually makes these storms bigger and
more intense," he explains. Humans burn fossil fuels in our cars, our power
plants and our airplanes, all of which release greenhouse gases that trap
heat. Warmer oceans, especially, provide fuel for hurricanes in the form of
evaporating moisture.
"The oceans are warmer now than they've ever been, and they're going steadily
upwards," Trenberth explains. In a study published in May, he and colleagues
found rain from Hurricane Harvey was powered by the highest ocean temperatures
ever recorded in the Gulf of Mexico.
Catoni
2018-09-12 00:33:59 UTC
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Thanks pal...... you fullfilled my prediction.... ha, ha, ha
Thread: "Leftist Warming Alarmist Screachers Ready to Blame Global Warming for Hurricane Florence."
by Catoni in alt.global-warming
Why did the hateful extremist lie yet again? Nowhere did the article blame
global warming for the hurricane.
Everyone with at least half a brain...(I guess that would you leave you out)... knows that "climate change" is just a substitute for global warming...

You screaching alarmists had to come up with something to cover your ass when the warming stalled or retreated.. .

You know... much like how you morons simply move the goal posts when your predictions fail and your "tipping points" come and go..

Same way you mis-use and manipulate language to creat "newspeak" to suit your socialist/Marxist-Leninist agenda..

You idiots... ! ! !
Unum
2018-09-12 03:39:40 UTC
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Thanks pal...... you fullfilled my prediction.... ha, ha, ha
Thread: "Leftist Warming Alarmist Screachers Ready to Blame Global Warming for Hurricane Florence."
by Catoni in alt.global-warming
Why did the hateful extremist lie yet again? Nowhere did the article blame
global warming for the hurricane.
Everyone with at least half a brain...(I guess that would you leave you out)... knows that "climate change" is just a substitute for global warming...
Not interested in your blabbering, nutjob. Why did the hateful extremist lie
yet again? Nowhere did the article blame global warming for the hurricane.

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/11/646313648/climate-change-drives-bigger-wetter-storms-storms-like-florence

Hurricane Florence is moving relentlessly toward the Southeastern U.S. It's a
large, powerful cyclone that will likely bring storm surge and high winds to
coastal communities.

But climate scientists say one of the biggest threats posed by Florence is
rain.

"Freshwater flooding poses the greatest risk to life," explains James Kossin,
an atmospheric scientist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration and the University of Wisconsin, Madison. And Florence could
cause extensive freshwater flooding for two reasons.

First, Florence is moving slowly and could all but stop when it reaches land.

Slow-moving storms like Harvey are getting more common. A study published
earlier this year by Kossin found that tropical cyclones around the world have
slowed down 10 percent in the past 70 years.

Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder,
Colo., says global warming also affects the size and intensity of storms like
Florence.

"We have global warming, and so this actually makes these storms bigger and
more intense," he explains. Humans burn fossil fuels in our cars, our power
plants and our airplanes, all of which release greenhouse gases that trap
heat. Warmer oceans, especially, provide fuel for hurricanes in the form of
evaporating moisture.

"The oceans are warmer now than they've ever been, and they're going steadily
upwards," Trenberth explains. In a study published in May, he and colleagues
found rain from Hurricane Harvey was powered by the highest ocean temperatures
ever recorded in the Gulf of Mexico.
R Kym Horsell
2018-09-12 04:19:15 UTC
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https://www.npr.org/2018/09/11/646313648/climate-change-drives-bigger-wetter-storms-storms-like-florence
Thanks pal...... you fullfilled my prediction.... ha, ha, ha
Thread: "Leftist Warming Alarmist Screachers Ready to Blame Global Warming for Hurricane Florence."
by Catoni in alt.global-warming
Why did the hateful extremist lie yet again? Nowhere did the article blame
global warming for the hurricane.
Everyone with at least half a brain...(I guess that would you leave you out)... knows that "climate change" is just a substitute for global warming...
Not interested in your blabbering, nutjob. Why did the hateful extremist lie
yet again? Nowhere did the article blame global warming for the hurricane.
https://www.npr.org/2018/09/11/646313648/climate-change-drives-bigger-wetter-storms-storms-like-florence
...

A summary of some of the findings and a nice plot are available here:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlantic_hurricane_records>

A careful plot of at least the number of Atlantic storms over time appears
nr the bottom:

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By comparing the Atlantic MDA SST month by month with the max windspeeds
and min central pressures of storms over the "accurate" period 1965-present
we find for each +1C of av SST in the main devel area the average
max windspeed goes up ~15 knots and the avg central pressure goes down ~15 mb.

No big surprise that over the period 1965-present the MDA surf temps have gone
up an avg +1C between Jun and Nov.

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Tropical Storm Olivia maintains strength, course as it closes in on Hawaii
Honolulu Star-Advertiser, 11 Sep 2018 15:37Z

Typhoon Mangkhut could be strongest of year, Taiwan within 'margin ...
Taiwan News, 11 Sep 2018 06:40Z
After Typhoon Mangkhut lashed Guam yesterday, it now appears on a path bound
for the waters south of

Al Jazeera Weather @AJEWeather 11 Sep 2018 13:45Z
An ocean full of cyclones. Florence, Isaac and Helene churning up in the
North Atlantic [EPA-EFE/NASA] pic.twitter.com/kmxK4XOHGU
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Al Jazeera Weather @AJEWeather 11 Sep 2018 13:45Z
Thunderheads bring flash floods to Benin, West Africa

Mankhut: A [super] typhoon with Hong Kong in sight?
Aljazeera.com, 11 Sep 2018 15:38Z
As the United States braces for Hurricane Florence, people in southern China
are closely watching the forecast track of Super Typhoon ...

NWS @NWS 11 Sep 2018 15:47Z
Life-threatening, catastrophic flash flooding due to very heavy rainfall
well inland will be a very real threat in the coming days due to #Florence.
This is National Hurricane Director Ken Graham discussing the rainfall
forecast. Follow facebook.com/nwsnhc for live updates.
pic.twitter.com/OHguhNFFZ5
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Super typhoon Mangkhut accelerates, enters PAR Wednesday
Philippine Star, 11 Sep 2018 16:39Z

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Philip Klotzbach @philklotzbach 11 Sep 2018 17:49Z
The 2018 Atlantic #hurricane season has more than doubled its Accumulated
Cyclone Energy in the past week. It was 24 at the end of September 4 and
will be ~60 by the end of today. #Florence #Helene #Isaac
pic.twitter.com/JiJeRBGKOJ
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he's not a bully.
AlleyCat
2018-09-12 01:30:12 UTC
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 18:56:11 -0500, Unum says...
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Nowhere did the article blame
global warming for the hurricane.
You're in the alt.GLOBAL-WARMING group, dumbass.

What are we SUPPOSED to infer from your stupid hurricanes=climate
change/global warming implications?

Gawd, you liberal pinko-commie-fags are stupid.

So the hurricanes are getting "wetter"... are they not EVER suppose to
change?

WHO said that?

Hurricanes could have been stronger a 1000 years ago, then got weaker.
WHAT made them get weaker?

Yeah... go ahead and tell me that you know hurricane history that can be
as old as 4 billion years.

Gahead.

WHAT made the hurricane "drought" from 2005 to 2017?

Things change, along WITH the weather... get over it, or it'll just eat
you up for the rest of your life... LOL... like you shut-in nerds have
lives.

I'll ask again... what is your agenda? WHY do you post this garbage, day
in and day out? WHY, of all places, do you post it on USENET?

WHO is your audience? Are YOU changing ANYONE'S mind?

Nope.

LOL
--
Climate Hillbilly Davis

It's "weather" when the temperatures don't agree with what climate
screechers have to say, and then it's climate change, when it does.

"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running."


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Climate Change Scientists Caught Tampering With Data to Show Rising Sea
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"NOAA And NASA Corrected Historical Temperature Data And Fabricated
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"NASA Made Efforts To Discredit Their Own Satellite Data"

"NASA Refused To Give Data And Information Requested By The US
House Of Representatives Science, Space And Technology Committee"

"NASA And NOAA Caught In Climate Data Manipulation"

"NASA Dramatically Altered US Temperatures After The Year 2000"

"Spectacularly Poor Climate Science At NASA"

"NASA/NOAA Mislead, Deceive and Lie About 'Hottest Year' Claim - Concede
2014 NOT "Hottest Year"

"Climate Fraud: NASA's Recent Global Warming "Corrections" Equal a +95.0°C
Per Century Trend"

https://www.google.com/#newwindow=1&q=noaa+nasa+caught

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Unum
2018-09-12 03:42:18 UTC
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Nowhere did the article blame
global warming for the hurricane.
You're in the alt.GLOBAL-WARMING group, dumbass.
Why did ratboy spam brainless garbage? What
newsgroup are you in, dimwit?


https://www.npr.org/2018/09/11/646313648/climate-change-drives-bigger-wetter-storms-storms-like-florence

Hurricane Florence is moving relentlessly toward the Southeastern U.S. It's a
large, powerful cyclone that will likely bring storm surge and high winds to
coastal communities.

But climate scientists say one of the biggest threats posed by Florence is
rain.

"Freshwater flooding poses the greatest risk to life," explains James Kossin,
an atmospheric scientist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration and the University of Wisconsin, Madison. And Florence could
cause extensive freshwater flooding for two reasons.

First, Florence is moving slowly and could all but stop when it reaches land.

Slow-moving storms like Harvey are getting more common. A study published
earlier this year by Kossin found that tropical cyclones around the world have
slowed down 10 percent in the past 70 years.

Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder,
Colo., says global warming also affects the size and intensity of storms like
Florence.

"We have global warming, and so this actually makes these storms bigger and
more intense," he explains. Humans burn fossil fuels in our cars, our power
plants and our airplanes, all of which release greenhouse gases that trap
heat. Warmer oceans, especially, provide fuel for hurricanes in the form of
evaporating moisture.

"The oceans are warmer now than they've ever been, and they're going steadily
upwards," Trenberth explains. In a study published in May, he and colleagues
found rain from Hurricane Harvey was powered by the highest ocean temperatures
ever recorded in the Gulf of Mexico.
AlleyCat
2018-09-12 05:43:08 UTC
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 18:56:11 -0500, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Nowhere did the article blame
global warming for the hurricane.
You're in the alt.GLOBAL-WARMING group, dumbass.
Why did ratboy spam brainless garbage?
I dint, but OK... if you SAY I did, might as well.

=====

Extreme Drought: British Columbia's Vancouver Island Climate Change Record

Vancouver Island Droughts Last 477 years Tsable River
It is unequivocally true that climate change, both mild and extreme, is
always happening - paleoclimatology research evidence establishes that.

There is no debate that climate change existed prior to humans' impact on
Earth, and will continue regardless of whether human CO2 emissions persist
or cease.

Scientists continue to investigate past climate change events to better
understand modern climate change, including extreme drought.

Case in point: scientists recently published peer-reviewed research that
identified extreme drought periods on Canada's Vancouver Island,
specifically the British Columbia Tsable River region.

Their research confirmed that since 1520AD, and prior to the instrumental
record, extreme droughts took place that were of equal severity to those
of modern droughts.

"Severe summer stream-flow droughts are impacting many watersheds on
Vancouver Island, British Columbia. Small coastal basins that are the
primary water source for most communities and essential to Pacific salmon
populations have been particularly affected... Explaining 63% of the
instrumental stream-flow variability... Our findings suggest that since
1520, 21 droughts occurred that were more extreme than recent "severe"
events like those in 2003 and 2009. Recent droughts are therefore not
anomalous relative to the ~400 year pre-instrumental record... ..The
influence of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation on instrumental and modeled
Tsable River summer streamflow is likely linked to the enhanced role of
snowmelt in determining summer discharge during cool phases."

Past extreme drought events are clear examples of continuous natural
climate change that the modern era cannot escape. Humans do not cause
climate change, it just happens.
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2018-09-12 05:43:18 UTC
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Nowhere did the article blame
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You're in the alt.GLOBAL-WARMING group, dumbass.
Why did ratboy spam brainless garbage?
I dint, but OK... if you SAY I did, might as well.

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A Massive Sea Level Rise: Due to Human CO2 or Trump Tsunami?

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2018-09-12 05:44:09 UTC
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You're in the alt.GLOBAL-WARMING group, dumbass.
Why did ratboy spam brainless garbage?
I dint, but OK... if you SAY I did, might as well.

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Luckily, we can now share this new video with all of skeptical comrades in
hopes they can step up and stop Trump's onslaught regarding Obama's green
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This is one snowflake we can't allow to go into meltdown mode. Help the
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2018-09-12 05:44:20 UTC
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Nowhere did the article blame
global warming for the hurricane.
You're in the alt.GLOBAL-WARMING group, dumbass.
Why did ratboy spam brainless garbage?
I dint, but OK... if you SAY I did, might as well.

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Climate Models Versus Cyclones & Hurricanes: More Titanic-Like
Climate/Weather Prediction Failures

The Titanic Never Sinking Prediction

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Fortunately, the Titanic only sunk once because engineers and navigators
did not continue to make the same mistakes over and over.

But "experts" and climate models provide a never-ending loop of sinking
and re-floating of a wide assortment of climate change predictions,
forecasts and scenarios.

The weather/climate researchers seem unable to embrace the humility and
reality that their computer simulation predictions rarely stay afloat for
any length of time before being sent down to deep and cold watery graves.

A recent noteworthy example of a failed prediction is the Hurricane
Matthew event.

More specifically, climate model output has been predicting that CO2-
induced global warming and climate change would produce more frequent, and
more intense, cyclones/hurricanes that would continuously terrorize many
coastal populations.

Yet those frightening predictions keep doing a 'Titanic' on the expert
model forecasts.

And actually, there is a logical reason for that happening: climate models
can't predict squat.

Per the latest peer-reviewed scientific research:

"...Camargo and Wing write that (5) "efforts on modeling improvements,
from convective parameterizations to new numerical methods and dynamical
cores, also need to continue to occur." And "most of all," as they
continue, they say that (6) "what is needed is a better theoretical
understanding of what sets the frequency of TCs," noting that (7) "we
could make much more confident climate change projections if we had a
firmer theoretical expectation of what should happen."

"In conclusion, therefore, they state that (8) "despite the recent
advances, there is still need for a substantial community effort to
improve simulation of TCs in climate models on all time scales."

Essentially, even after burning through multi-billions of taxpayer monies,
the models still can't predict squat due to the inescapable fact that
experts require a "firmer theoretical expectation of what should happen."

Message to Trump from climate scientists: "We don't know what we're doing
but please send more money anyways, ASAP!"
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2018-09-12 05:45:00 UTC
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Nowhere did the article blame
global warming for the hurricane.
You're in the alt.GLOBAL-WARMING group, dumbass.
Why did ratboy spam brainless garbage?
I dint, but OK... if you SAY I did, might as well.

=====

UK's Climate Centre Confirms Obvious: Global Warming Is Decelerating
Despite Highest CO2 Levels Ever

UK's Daily Mail published article that discusses global warming collapse,
based on latest empirical evidence being reported by the Met Office Hadley
Centre... ..the global temperatures have dropped hugely since the 2015-
2016 El Nino peak...
UK Dail Mail Global Temps Dec112016 HC4 Global Warming Deceleration
121116

The global temperature chart image on the left is from the Daily Mail.

The recent substantial drop in world temperatures is evident. Clearly, the
temperature spike caused by the recent El Nino is in the process of being
reversed, and quickly with some gusto.

The image on the right represents a plot multiple global per century
temperature trends based on the same UK global anomaly dataset used by the
Daily Mail to plot absolute temps. The blue 1-year (12-month) trends show
the dramatic global warming trend reversal over the most recent months -
from a peak in March 2016 to what now amounts to being a significant
cooling trend by October 2016.

The other plotted trends for longer periods will eventually follow the
direction of the 1-year trend as the slide of future global temperatures
from the peak continues.

A note of interest is the fact that none of the different period warming
trends plotted exceeded those reached in the past during periods of lower
atmospheric CO2. Despite this incredibly powerful El Nino taking place
during modern history's period of the highest CO2 levels recorded, the
2015/16 warming trends generated never surpassed those experienced in the
past.
Bret Cahill
2018-09-12 05:56:29 UTC
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"Experts such as Nick Petro of the National Weather Service are pointing, in particular, to storms such as Hurricane Hugo in 1989 (the last major hurricane to hit South Carolina), Hurricane Fran in 1996 (the most recent major hurricane to strike North Carolina), and Hurricane Matthew in 2016, as models for the mayhem threatened by the coming storm.

"Hurricane Florence threatens to pack the combined wallop of all three storms, with projected 20-foot storm surges along the coast, 145 mph high winds of a Category 4 (or higher) major storm, and more than 10 inches of heavy rainfall possible, dumping rainwater on the already sodden Eastern Seaboard. A high-pressure weather system developing north of the storm threatens to slow its progress after landfall, raising the specter of it parking in place like Hurricane Harvey last year over Houston, dropping tremendous amounts of rainfall, perhaps 20 inches, on North Carolina and Virginia.

"In 1999, Hurricane Floyd created a “500-year flood” that left whole towns underwater, their residents clinging to rooftops. Caskets floated from graves, and lagoons filled with hog farm waste overflowed, leading rescue workers to smear their noses with menthol ointment to kill the stench. Of 87 people killed by the storm, 52 died in the flooding in North Carolina."

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/danvergano/hurricane-florence-hugo-matthew-fran

The pig poop will flow into Pamlico Sound forcing the fish flee out the inlets to the ocean.

Commercial fishermen will be waiting at the inlets w/ nets ready.
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2018-09-12 03:27:49 UTC
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Thread: "Leftist Warming Alarmist Screachers Ready to Blame Global Warming for Hurricane Florence."
by Catoni in alt.global-warming
Why did the hateful extremist lie yet again? Nowhere did the article blame
global warming for the hurricane.
Says very clearly below;
"makes these storms bigger and more intense"
"Slow-moving storms like Harvey are getting more common"
And in the thread title;
"Climate Change Drives Bigger, Wetter Storms"
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You can just see Cartoony having problems with his 0/1 black and white logic again.

A hurricane is either totally caused by AGW or has nothing to do with it
and it's less scary for deniers to have the 2 things completely unrelated.

So you can see well ahead of time where Cartoony et al will come down
on dis or any similar subject.

Scientists and numerates, OTOH, will be off busy calcylating how much
of Hurricane Flo can be attributed to the extra +2C waters Flo will
be travelling over, or how much extra toasty SST will boost ocean
storms in general with extra precip or slow them down allowing the
extra rain to get an extra long soak in wherever they decide to dump it.

Funny thing, Cartoony is on the brink of discovering non-binary numbers
with his agreement that the warm part of the year sees more and bigger
hurricanes than the depths of winter. Maybe given 10-20-30 more years
thinking about it he will come up with a primitive idea of
causal relationship between sea surf temps and storm stength.
But that all depends on finding a 6 yo that will talk wid him like an equal.
Bret Cahill
2018-09-12 04:43:44 UTC
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Thanks
8 m in < 24 hours!

https://www.surfline.com/surf-report/cape-hatteras-lighthouse/5842041f4e65fad6a7708a38
Wally W.
2018-09-12 12:15:42 UTC
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https://www.npr.org/2018/09/11/646313648/climate-change-drives-bigger-wetter-storms-storms-like-florence
Hurricane Florence is moving relentlessly toward the Southeastern U.S. It's a
large, powerful cyclone that will likely bring storm surge and high winds to
coastal communities.
But climate scientists say one of the biggest threats posed by Florence is
rain.
... who knew?

Another threat from a hurricane is wind.

Maybe the "climate scientists" are saving that for the "it's worse
than we thought" part of their next news flash:

"This hurricane had rain *and* wind ... it's worse than we thought."
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