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No evidence of climate change in 40 years
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JTEM is right
2018-05-04 06:10:28 UTC
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Instead of EVs, solutions that are a much
better fit to our society/economy...

#1. Biofuels.

The ultimate success story is Brazil, but it's
important to remember that they have an
advantageous climate and a ridiculous amount of
arable land yet still biofuels bake up less
than 20% of their transportation fuels... less
than 18%.

#2. Gas.

Meaning, natural gas or even propane. There's
already lots of retail points -- including
countless fueling stations -- that offer
this product, so it would hardly take a large
investment in infrastructure to make them work
for cars.

#3. Animals.

Horses were the mainstay of transportation for
thousands of years. They not only can get the
job done, the have gotten the job done.

#4. Synthetics.

There's coal-to-liquids and bitumen i.e. "Oil
Sands." These are inefficient compared to
traditional oil, as they require a lot of
overhead to turn them into fuel, but they do
fit seamlessly into our existing society.







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columbiaaccidentinvestigation
2018-05-05 05:30:03 UTC
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Post by JTEM is right
Instead of EVs, solutions that are a much
better fit to our society/economy...
#1. Biofuels.
The ultimate success story is Brazil, but it's
important to remember that they have an
advantageous climate and a ridiculous amount of
arable land yet still biofuels bake up less
than 20% of their transportation fuels... less
than 18%.
#2. Gas.
Meaning, natural gas or even propane. There's
already lots of retail points -- including
countless fueling stations -- that offer
this product, so it would hardly take a large
investment in infrastructure to make them work
for cars.
#3. Animals.
Horses were the mainstay of transportation for
thousands of years. They not only can get the
job done, the have gotten the job done.
#4. Synthetics.
There's coal-to-liquids and bitumen i.e. "Oil
Sands." These are inefficient compared to
traditional oil, as they require a lot of
overhead to turn them into fuel, but they do
fit seamlessly into our existing society.
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translation, you are stuck in the past and incorrectly expect others to be stuck there with you.
JTEM is right
2018-05-05 16:47:43 UTC
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Post by columbiaaccidentinvestigation
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You're in no position to "Translate" anything.

It's an energy shortage, or at least one pending
and NOT global warming.




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columbiaaccidentinvestigation
2018-05-06 21:50:35 UTC
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You're
Im in a location where the sunshine is plentiful, you are not in a place to make a decision about use of sunlight because you are in place that lacks sunshine
JTEM is right
2018-05-07 03:36:30 UTC
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Im in a location where
Who cares? You can't see any further than yourself,
much less grasp global energy use.

According to your myths, it doesn't matter WHO is
burning the fossil fuels, or WHERE.





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Kibbu Ubik
2018-05-05 13:06:43 UTC
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On 04/05/18 07:10, JTEM is very ignorant wrote:

/*No evidence of climate change in 40 years*/

Where have you looked?
Byker
2018-05-05 15:26:12 UTC
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/*No evidence of climate change in 40 years*/
Where have you looked?
Had nobody said it was changing, nobody would notice that it changed...
Siri Cruise
2018-05-05 20:21:58 UTC
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/*No evidence of climate change in 40 years*/
Where have you looked?
Had nobody said it was changing, nobody would notice that it changed...
Except maybe Floridians noticing it gets a bit wetter underfoot every year.
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Kibbu Ubik
2018-05-06 16:46:13 UTC
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/*No evidence of climate change in 40 years*/
Where have you looked?
Had nobody said it was changing, nobody would notice that it changed...
Check here. You'll find ~2.5 million academic references. Read a few.

<https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=evidence+for+climate+change&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjrqN68w_HaAhWICcAKHV4VAnIQgQMIJzAA>


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Byker
2018-05-06 19:03:01 UTC
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Had nobody said it was changing, nobody would notice that it changed...
Check here. You'll find ~2.5 million academic references. Read a few.
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AHEM:


That took some guts...
Gronk
2018-05-07 04:15:20 UTC
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AHEM: http://youtu.be/eEmUS7PAWFw
That took some guts...
EH? Do you know what rt.com is?

"RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government"
Byker
2018-05-07 17:05:00 UTC
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AHEM: http://youtu.be/eEmUS7PAWFw
That took some guts...
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EH? Do you know what rt.com is?
"RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government"
Hey, no shit!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)
It's even more remarkable that they aired it...
Wotawonderfulworld
2018-05-07 00:26:25 UTC
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"Byker" <***@do~rag.net> wrote in news:l4qdnZDpRteIUHDHnZ2dnUU7-
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You idiot .. it changes every day, Yesterday was rather cold, Today sunny
and warm.. Climates been changing for millions of years,,,,
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/*No evidence of climate change in 40 years*/
Where have you looked?
Had nobody said it was changing, nobody would notice that it changed...
Col
2018-05-07 04:39:38 UTC
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You idiot .. it changes every day, Yesterday was rather cold, Today sunny
and warm.. Climates been changing for millions of years,,,,
That's not climate, that's the weather.
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johnny-knowall
2018-05-07 08:36:44 UTC
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You idiot .. it changes every day, Yesterday was rather cold, Today sunny
and warm.. Climates been changing for millions of years,,,,
You confuse climate with weather.

Try using your brain, and reading up on the differences.
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/*No evidence of climate change in 40 years*/
Where have you looked?
Had nobody said it was changing, nobody would notice that it changed...
gordo
2018-05-07 16:28:38 UTC
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On Mon, 07 May 2018 00:26:25 GMT, Wotawonderfulworld
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You idiot .. it changes every day, Yesterday was rather cold, Today sunny
and warm.. Climates been changing for millions of years,,,,
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/*No evidence of climate change in 40 years*/
Where have you looked?
Had nobody said it was changing, nobody would notice that it changed...
The globe is warming and it is warming because of co2 in the
atmosphere from burning fossil fuels. This is also called climate
change and it is happening very quickly.Too quickly for plants and
animals to adapt.

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Byker
2018-05-07 17:05:07 UTC
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The globe is warming and it is warming because of co2 in the atmosphere
from burning fossil fuels. This is also called climate change and it is
happening very quickly.Too quickly for plants and animals to adapt.
Flog, flog, flog away: https://tinyurl.com/y8tkpfcm

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JTEM is right
2018-05-07 18:57:31 UTC
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The globe is warming and it is warming because of co2
I wish.

I mean, as even retards know that "Stagnation" was never
an option, and the alternative to "Warmer" is "Colder,"
I would give just about anything to make "Global
Warming Caused by CO2" real.

But it's not.





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JTEM is right
2018-05-05 16:48:30 UTC
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Post by Kibbu Ubik
Where have you looked?
In this ice age, same as you.




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Kibbu Ubik
2018-05-06 16:44:13 UTC
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Where have you looked?
In this ice age, same as you.
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Check here. You'll find ~2.5 million academic references. Read a few.

<https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=evidence+for+climate+change&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjrqN68w_HaAhWICcAKHV4VAnIQgQMIJzAA>

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Catoni
2018-05-06 18:55:32 UTC
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Post by Kibbu Ubik
Check here. You'll find ~2.5 million academic references. Read a few.
Yep ...climate changes. It'ss been changing ever since the planet got an atmosphere and water.

Changes sometimes fast.. sometimes slow... sometimes a lot... sometimes a little.

Right now we are in a warm Interglacial Period, between Glacial Periods, during the Current Ice Age we are in.

So what's your point ? ?
Kibbu Ubik
2018-05-07 19:05:57 UTC
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Check here. You'll find ~2.5 million academic references. Read a few.
Yep ...climate changes. It'ss been changing ever since the planet got an atmosphere and water.
Changes sometimes fast.. sometimes slow... sometimes a lot... sometimes a little.
Right now we are in a warm Interglacial Period, between Glacial Periods, during the Current Ice Age we are in.
So what's your point ? ?
How many scientific articles did you read?

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JTEM is right
2018-05-06 21:45:28 UTC
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Check here. You'll find
We are inside of an ice age. We are in the
tail end of an interglacial period -- a
pause between glaciations -- during an ice
age. Nobody that has anything to do with
"Climate" is denying this, except for
internet wannabes.

The earth isn't warm. It's colder than it
was before this ice age began. It's colder
than it was during the previous interglacial,
or the one before that.

There is no "Warm." It simply does not exist.





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Kibbu Ubik
2018-05-07 19:05:02 UTC
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Check here. You'll find
How many of those ~2.5 million academic articles,by scientists, about
climate change, did you read?

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JTEM is right
2018-05-07 20:28:12 UTC
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How many of those ~2.5 million academic articles,by scientists, about
climate change, did you read?
How many/few does it take to change the fact that
we are living inside of the tail end of a brief
interglacial period during an ice age?





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Kibbu Ubik
2018-05-08 15:50:54 UTC
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How many of those ~2.5 million academic articles,by scientists, about
climate change, did you read?
How many/few does it take to change the fact that
we are living inside of the tail end of a brief
interglacial period during an ice age?
Can you supply a few academic references to backup those claims.(Wattsup
doesn't count)
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JTEM is right
2018-05-08 18:33:30 UTC
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How many/few does it take to change the fact that
we are living inside of the tail end of a brief
interglacial period during an ice age?
Can you supply a few academic references to backup those claims.
You're "Arguing" that you're so disinterested that
you wouldn't bother? Okay. So tell me how your
position will change when I show you that we are
living inside of an ice age -- a brief "interglacial
period" inside of an ice age?

Go, Mr I-Am-So-Concerned-I-Won't-Google-For-Rudimentary
-Facts. Tell me how the knowledge of being inside of
an ice age -- with the mile tall glaciers (over)due to
return, will change your position.

Do that, and I'll happily provide links to sources
you could have easily found yourself, if you cared.





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Kibbu Ubik
2018-05-09 10:20:48 UTC
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How many/few does it take to change the fact that
we are living inside of the tail end of a brief
interglacial period during an ice age?
Can you supply a few academic references to backup those claims.
You're "Arguing" that you're so disinterested that
you wouldn't bother? Okay. So tell me how your
position will change when I show you that we are
living inside of an ice age -- a brief "interglacial
period" inside of an ice age?
Go, Mr I-Am-So-Concerned-I-Won't-Google-For-Rudimentary
-Facts. Tell me how the knowledge of being inside of
an ice age -- with the mile tall glaciers (over)due to
return, will change your position.
Do that, and I'll happily provide links to sources
you could have easily found yourself, if you cared.
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Hmmm... I've provided you with ~2.5 million scientific references that
CO2 is creating global warming and you've provided me with how many
references the the "inter-glacial" is the sole source of current warming.
Say no more..(British idiom)
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JTEM is right
2018-05-09 15:55:11 UTC
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Hmmm... I've provided you with ~2.5 million scientific references that
CO2 is creating global warming and
That doesn't make sense.

Your current "Argument" is to deny reality, deny
the fact that we are inside a cooling period, inside
of an ice age. Because, who gives a shit if we warmed
the planet? That would be a good thing. NOT warming
the planet during an ice age would be a bad thing. It
would mean that we'd be welcoming a return of the
glaciers.

Oh. CO2 isn't warming the planet any more than Saddam
had Al Qaeda ties or Dubya Bush won Florida fair &
square.






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Kibbu Ubik
2018-05-09 10:39:56 UTC
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How many/few does it take to change the fact that
we are living inside of the tail end of a brief
interglacial period during an ice age?
Can you supply a few academic references to backup those claims.
You're "Arguing" that you're so disinterested that
you wouldn't bother? Okay. So tell me how your
position will change when I show you that we are
living inside of an ice age -- a brief "interglacial
period" inside of an ice age?
Go, Mr I-Am-So-Concerned-I-Won't-Google-For-Rudimentary
-Facts. Tell me how the knowledge of being inside of
an ice age -- with the mile tall glaciers (over)due to
return, will change your position.
Do that, and I'll happily provide links to sources
you could have easily found yourself, if you cared.
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You might be interested in this 5 part series of articles:

The Last Interglacial - An Analogue for the Future?
<https://www.skepticalscience.com/LIG1-0706.html>

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JTEM is right
2018-05-09 15:58:35 UTC
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Nope, no critical thinking skills here...
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The Last Interglacial - An Analogue for the Future?
<https://www.skepticalscience.com/LIG1-0706.html>
So they're looking at what happened to the previous
interglacial (the one before that was also a lot
warmer), they're looking at the climate at a time
well before human industry, and concluding that the
only way we might see that occur is by artificial
means...

Put short: What nature does is a representation of
what nature can't do.





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Catoni
2018-05-05 22:58:08 UTC
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/*No evidence of climate change in 40 years*/
Where have you looked?
Even the I.P.C.C. says it warmed only 0.85 degree C between 1880 - 2012 And we just came out of the colder, nastier L.I.A. You would EXPECT us to warm up a bit

And if you stepped outside your house back July 25, 1880 on an average climate day....and then stepped outside that same house again on July 25, 2012 on an a average climate day...

...all other things being equal except for the 0.85 degree increase in temperature....there would be no way in hell you would notice the change in temperature from the one day to the next. You would need a very accurate thermometer to see the difference.

Now go shake and quiver in fear and call "ALARM.... ALARM.... THE WORLD IS HEATING UP"

"The globally averaged combined land and ocean surface temperature data as calculated by a linear trend show a warming of 0.85 [0.65 to 1.06] °C 2 over the period 1880 to 2012, when multiple independently produced datasets exist."

Climate Change 2014, Synthesis Report Summary for Policy Makers. https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/syr/AR5_SYR_FINAL_SPM.pdf
Kibbu Ubik
2018-05-06 16:45:25 UTC
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/*No evidence of climate change in 40 years*/
Where have you looked?
Even the I.P.C.C. says it warmed only 0.85 degree C between 1880 - 2012 And we just came out of the colder, nastier L.I.A. You would EXPECT us to warm up a bit
And if you stepped outside your house back July 25, 1880 on an average climate day....and then stepped outside that same house again on July 25, 2012 on an a average climate day...
...all other things being equal except for the 0.85 degree increase in temperature....there would be no way in hell you would notice the change in temperature from the one day to the next. You would need a very accurate thermometer to see the difference.
Now go shake and quiver in fear and call "ALARM.... ALARM.... THE WORLD IS HEATING UP"
"The globally averaged combined land and ocean surface temperature data as calculated by a linear trend show a warming of 0.85 [0.65 to 1.06] °C 2 over the period 1880 to 2012, when multiple independently produced datasets exist."
Climate Change 2014, Synthesis Report Summary for Policy Makers. https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/syr/AR5_SYR_FINAL_SPM.pdf
Check here. You'll find ~2.5 million academic references. Read a few.

<https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=evidence+for+climate+change&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjrqN68w_HaAhWICcAKHV4VAnIQgQMIJzAA>

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2018-05-07 16:29:16 UTC
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Post by Wotawonderfulworld
You idiot .. it changes every day, Yesterday was rather cold, Today sunny
and warm.. Climates been changing for millions of years,,,,
Let the former co-founder of Greenpeace tell it like it is:


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