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What the new report on climate change expects from you
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Unum
2018-10-09 14:34:38 UTC
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No sign of 'energy starvation' in the suggestions, lol. Drive EV's, get
a smart thermostat, and eat less meat. Horrors!

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/08/world/ipcc-climate-change-consumer-actions-intl/

The IPCC's models emphasize the need for people to change their lifestyle and
consumption patterns to more sustainable alternatives, specifically in areas
they can control, like modes of transportation, the buildings they inhabit and
their dietary preferences.

Transportation: In order to meet the 1.5C goal, the IPCC envisages a future
where people travel less, and that generally consumer preferences shift to
more sustainable choices like car sharing and hybrid and electric cars. The
report also looks at using more efficient modes of travel, e.g. swapping cars,
trucks and planes to buses and trains.

Buildings: While this section is less prescriptive, the IPCC suggests that
people shift to more sustainable behavior when it comes to their homes, for
example using smart thermostats or more efficient air conditioners.

Diets: Again, the models aren't comprehensive, but in general, the IPCC's
narrative suggests that people consume about 30% less animal products. Eating
less meat is one of a number of mitigation strategies suggested by the IPCC to
overhaul agricultural and land-use practices, including the protection of
forests. The livestock sector is estimated to account for 14.5% of greenhouse
gas emissions globally, more than direct emissions from the transport sector.
Chom Noamsky
2018-10-09 15:29:03 UTC
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Post by Unum
The IPCC's models emphasize the need for people to change their
lifestyle
UN environment chief criticised by UN over frequent flying

Erik Solheim’s huge travel bill is a ‘reputation risk’ and he has ‘no
regard’ for rules, says draft internal audit

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/sep/21/un-environment-chief-criticised-by-un-over-frequent-flying-eric-solheim

How to fly to a climate change summit? In a private, carbon-spewing jet

One of the hottest spots during the just-concluded Global Climate Action
Summit was the private runway at San Francisco International Airport,
where SFO spokesman Doug Yakel reports corporate jet traffic was up 30
percent over normal.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/How-to-fly-to-a-climate-change-summit-In-a-13231466.php
Unum
2018-10-09 19:35:47 UTC
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Post by Chom Noamsky
Post by Unum
The IPCC's models emphasize the need for people to change their lifestyle
UN environment chief criticised by UN over frequent flying
So what?
Wally W.
2018-10-10 04:59:04 UTC
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Post by Unum
Post by Chom Noamsky
Post by Unum
The IPCC's models emphasize the need for people to change their lifestyle
UN environment chief criticised by UN over frequent flying
So what?
Compare "leading by example" with "hypocritically dictating dogma."
John Smith
2018-10-10 20:57:56 UTC
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Post by Unum
Post by Chom Noamsky
Post by Unum
The IPCC's models emphasize the need for people to change their lifestyle
UN environment chief criticised by UN over frequent flying
So what?
Hypocrite much , Al Gore?
Unum
2018-10-11 00:28:37 UTC
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Post by John Smith
Post by Unum
Post by Chom Noamsky
Post by Unum
The IPCC's models emphasize the need for people to change their lifestyle
UN environment chief criticised by UN over frequent flying
So what?
Hypocrite much , Al Gore?
Maybe he buys carbon offsets. What does it have to do with the
IPCC report, blabbermouth?
JTEM is right
2018-10-09 19:02:08 UTC
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Post by Unum
No sign of 'energy starvation' in the suggestions, lol. Drive EV's, get
a smart thermostat, and eat less meat. Horrors!
Ban private aviation, including helicopters.

Ban limos & SUVs.

Eliminate 100% of the tax right-offs for the
"Investment" in single family homes. Why are
we subsidizing the rich to gulp down more
energy even as they drive real estate prices
artificially high, locking millions of families
outside of the market?

Tax right-offs on things like "Alternative
Energy" only work if you're actually taxing
the 1%. So raise their income taxes while
you're at it.




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http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/178862925212
John Smith
2018-10-10 20:52:20 UTC
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Post by Unum
The IPCC's models emphasize the need for people to change their
lifestyle and consumption patterns to more sustainable alternatives,
https://www.foxnews.com/science/federal-scientist-cooked-climate-change-books-ahead-of-obama-presentation-whistle-blower-charges

And they did it with cooked numbers too, how nice.

Pass me a cheeseburger and a dirt bike,
Unum
2018-10-10 21:16:15 UTC
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Post by John Smith
Post by Unum
The IPCC's models emphasize the need for people to change their lifestyle
and consumption patterns to more sustainable alternatives,
https://www.foxnews.com/science/federal-scientist-cooked-climate-change-books-ahead-of-obama-presentation-whistle-blower-charges
From Fox News, lol! Reported last year, about a report in 2015, about
the NOAA. Which has nothing to do with the IPCC.
Post by John Smith
And they did it with cooked numbers too, how nice.
Utterly debunked.
Post by John Smith
Pass me a cheeseburger and a dirt bike,
People who generate pollution should have to pay the people who don't, right?
John Smith
2018-10-10 21:49:06 UTC
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Post by Unum
Post by John Smith
Post by Unum
The IPCC's models emphasize the need for people to change their
lifestyle and consumption patterns to more sustainable alternatives,
https://www.foxnews.com/science/federal-scientist-cooked-climate-change-books-ahead-of-obama-presentation-whistle-blower-charges
From Fox News, lol! Reported last year, about a report in 2015, about
the NOAA. Which has nothing to do with the IPCC.
Post by John Smith
And they did it with cooked numbers too, how nice.
Utterly debunked.
Wrong.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/03/01/fakegate-the-obnoxious-fabrication-of-global-warming/#230285516140

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/23/breaking-news-scientist-admits-ipcc-used-fake-data-to-pressure-policy-makers/
Post by Unum
Post by John Smith
Pass me a cheeseburger and a dirt bike,
People who generate pollution should have to pay the people who don't, right?
Nope.

I want fries too.

You can recycle their oil.
Unum
2018-10-11 00:27:42 UTC
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Post by John Smith
Post by John Smith
Post by Unum
The IPCC's models emphasize the need for people to change their lifestyle
and consumption patterns to more sustainable alternatives,
https://www.foxnews.com/science/federal-scientist-cooked-climate-change-books-ahead-of-obama-presentation-whistle-blower-charges
 From Fox News, lol! Reported last year, about a report in 2015, about
the NOAA. Which has nothing to do with the IPCC.
Post by John Smith
And they did it with cooked numbers too, how nice.
Utterly debunked.
Wrong.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/03/01/fakegate-the-obnoxious-fabrication-of-global-warming/#230285516140
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/23/breaking-news-scientist-admits-ipcc-used-fake-data-to-pressure-policy-makers/
Lol, the twit cites an opinion piece from 6 years ago and a lieblog
from 8 years ago. Should have stuck with Fox News, lol.
Post by John Smith
Post by John Smith
Pass me a cheeseburger and a dirt bike,
People who generate pollution should have to pay the people who don't, right?
Nope.
Why do you hate humanity so much?
Wally W.
2018-10-11 04:06:25 UTC
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 09:34:38 -0500, Unum wrote:

Subject line: What the new report on climate change expects from you

Question: How can a **report** expect anything?

Maybe if you had used Kymmie-spelling, no one would have noticed the
weirdness of the question.
DESMODUS
2018-10-11 10:04:12 UTC
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This is hopeless while the population is growing so fast -even if eveybody did this the Co2 level would still rise ! DESMODUS
Post by Unum
No sign of 'energy starvation' in the suggestions, lol. Drive EV's, get
a smart thermostat, and eat less meat. Horrors!
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/08/world/ipcc-climate-change-consumer-actions-intl/
The IPCC's models emphasize the need for people to change their lifestyle and
consumption patterns to more sustainable alternatives, specifically in areas
they can control, like modes of transportation, the buildings they inhabit and
their dietary preferences.
Transportation: In order to meet the 1.5C goal, the IPCC envisages a future
where people travel less, and that generally consumer preferences shift to
more sustainable choices like car sharing and hybrid and electric cars. The
report also looks at using more efficient modes of travel, e.g. swapping cars,
trucks and planes to buses and trains.
Buildings: While this section is less prescriptive, the IPCC suggests that
people shift to more sustainable behavior when it comes to their homes, for
example using smart thermostats or more efficient air conditioners.
Diets: Again, the models aren't comprehensive, but in general, the IPCC's
narrative suggests that people consume about 30% less animal products. Eating
less meat is one of a number of mitigation strategies suggested by the IPCC to
overhaul agricultural and land-use practices, including the protection of
forests. The livestock sector is estimated to account for 14.5% of greenhouse
gas emissions globally, more than direct emissions from the transport sector.
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