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Acidification: Definition
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Catoni
2018-10-08 23:22:01 UTC
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Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language:
acidification
noun [ U ] UK/əˌsɪd.ɪ.fɪˈkeɪ.ʃən/ US ​ /əˌsɪd.ɪ.fɪˈkeɪ.ʃən/ specialized

"the process of becoming an acid or the act of making something become an acid"


Oxford Dictionary:acidification
NOUN

mass noun
"The action or process of making or becoming acidic"


The oceans remained alkaline/base.. even when atmospheric CO2 was in the THOUSANDS of ppm in the past.
Since the oceans can NEVER become acid/acidic...(because they would reach CO2 saturation long before that could happen) the socialist/marxist-leninist Gore Bull Warming/Climate Change Alarmists and their supporters and "scientists" like Bill Nye and David Suzuki...

....are liars and deceivers when they claim that the oceans are undergoing "acidification" or "acidifying".
JTEM is right
2018-10-09 01:05:57 UTC
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Since the oceans can NEVER become acid/acidic...(because they would reach CO2 saturation long before that could happen) the socialist/marxist-leninist Gore Bull Warming/Climate Change Alarmists and their supporters and "scientists" like Bill Nye and David Suzuki...
Your statement is valid but just for clarification:

There are many who suggest that the reason why our
oceans were populated by so many fish, instead of
the ammonites which dominated the seas for some 300
million years, is because of ocean acidification.

The theory goes that the acid ate away at their
shells, rendering them helpless.

https://www.iflscience.com/environment/where-did-all-ammonites-go/

But...

But the thing is, it took an event of unimaginable
destructive might -- totally off the scales of anything
we know -- to produce this acidification.

Seriously. Krakatoa exploded in the late 1800s and
literally shocked people by the size & scope of the
event. When yellowstone erupts it'll be as powerful
as 50 krakatoas exploding at the same time. And when
Toba exploded about 70k years ago it was maybe equal
to 2.5 yellowstones. The event that acidified the
oceans, wiping out the ammonites, dwarfed all these.

"The Astroid That Killed the Dinosaurs."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2307097/How-asteroid-wiped-dinosaurs-sparked-global-firestorm-turned-sky-red.html

I'm thinking that they're exaggerating the energy
equivalents here... a 1-megaton bomb every four
miles?

But, this much is no exaggeration: An asteroid
impact of that size ANYWHERE on the planet would
have resulted in flaming hot debris raining down
pretty much everywhere else. So, yes, it would
have started forest fires EVERYWHERE!

So all you need is a catastrophic event that
exceeds the human mind's ability to grasp and,
well, and ACIDIFICATION!



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Catoni
2018-10-09 02:53:34 UTC
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Since the oceans can NEVER become acid/acidic...(because they would reach CO2 saturation long before that could happen) the socialist/marxist-leninist Gore Bull Warming/Climate Change Alarmists and their supporters and "scientists" like Bill Nye and David Suzuki...
There are many who suggest that the reason why our
oceans were populated by so many fish, instead of
the ammonites which dominated the seas for some 300
million years, is because of ocean acidification.
The theory goes that the acid ate away at their
shells, rendering them helpless.
https://www.iflscience.com/environment/where-did-all-ammonites-go/
But...
But the thing is, it took an event of unimaginable
destructive might -- totally off the scales of anything
we know -- to produce this acidification.
Seriously. Krakatoa exploded in the late 1800s and
literally shocked people by the size & scope of the
event. When yellowstone erupts it'll be as powerful
as 50 krakatoas exploding at the same time. And when
Toba exploded about 70k years ago it was maybe equal
to 2.5 yellowstones. The event that acidified the
oceans, wiping out the ammonites, dwarfed all these.
"The Astroid That Killed the Dinosaurs."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2307097/How-asteroid-wiped-dinosaurs-sparked-global-firestorm-turned-sky-red.html
I'm thinking that they're exaggerating the energy
equivalents here... a 1-megaton bomb every four
miles?
But, this much is no exaggeration: An asteroid
impact of that size ANYWHERE on the planet would
have resulted in flaming hot debris raining down
pretty much everywhere else. So, yes, it would
have started forest fires EVERYWHERE!
So all you need is a catastrophic event that
exceeds the human mind's ability to grasp and,
well, and ACIDIFICATION!
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http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/178867382635
If the oceans became acidic.... it would be due to something else caused by the Siberian Traps Eruptions and later the Chicxulub Impact Event....... sulfer dioxide or something else...

NOT CO2. Because ocean water would reach CO2 saturation level long before CO2 could make it acidic. The rest of the CO2 would simply increase in the atmoshere, or be taken up by plants and rocks.

Remember...... your ammonites died out..... but how is it that we still have clams and other bivalves and brachiopods, and horseshoe crabs and corals still with us today? ?
JTEM is right
2018-10-09 03:43:59 UTC
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Remember...... your ammonites died out..... but how is it that we still have clams and other bivalves and brachiopods, and horseshoe crabs and corals still with us today? ?
I never said that I subscribed to the acidification
theory, only that it is out there, it is considered
legitimate. But I will say this:

Your question isn't about chemical reaction, acid
on shell. It's about the balance of nature. It's
said that Sea Turtles, for example, have a 1% survival
rate to adulthood, but nature found it's balance by
the sheer number of eggs that they lay.

...maybe the vast numbers of ammonites were
quite small in comparison to the number born. So,
lose even half of the breeding adults and they
undergo a population collapse that can only be
halted by their extinction, the extinction of their
predators or both.




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wow & flutter
2018-10-10 20:29:43 UTC
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Since the oceans can NEVER become acid/acidic...(because they would reach CO2 saturation long before that could happen) the socialist/marxist-leninist Gore Bull Warming/Climate Change Alarmists and their supporters and "scientists" like Bill Nye and David Suzuki...
There are many who suggest that the reason why our
oceans were populated by so many fish, instead of
the ammonites which dominated the seas for some 300
million years, is because of ocean acidification.
The theory goes that the acid ate away at their
shells, rendering them helpless.
https://www.iflscience.com/environment/where-did-all-ammonites-go/
But...
But the thing is, it took an event of unimaginable
destructive might -- totally off the scales of anything
we know -- to produce this acidification.
Seriously. Krakatoa exploded in the late 1800s and
literally shocked people by the size & scope of the
event. When yellowstone erupts it'll be as powerful
as 50 krakatoas exploding at the same time. And when
Toba exploded about 70k years ago it was maybe equal
to 2.5 yellowstones. The event that acidified the
oceans, wiping out the ammonites, dwarfed all these.
"The Astroid That Killed the Dinosaurs."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2307097/How-asteroid-wiped-dinosaurs-sparked-global-firestorm-turned-sky-red.html
I'm thinking that they're exaggerating the energy
equivalents here... a 1-megaton bomb every four
miles?
But, this much is no exaggeration: An asteroid
impact of that size ANYWHERE on the planet would
have resulted in flaming hot debris raining down
pretty much everywhere else. So, yes, it would
have started forest fires EVERYWHERE!
So all you need is a catastrophic event that
exceeds the human mind's ability to grasp and,
well, and ACIDIFICATION!
-- --
http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/178867382635
If the oceans became acidic.... it would be due to something else caused by the Siberian Traps Eruptions and later the Chicxulub Impact Event....... sulfer dioxide or something else...
NOT CO2. Because ocean water would reach CO2 saturation level long before CO2 could make it acidic. The rest of the CO2 would simply increase in the atmoshere, or be taken up by plants and rocks.
Remember...... your ammonites died out..... but how is it that we still have clams and other bivalves and brachiopods, and horseshoe crabs and corals still with us today? ?
+1!
Bret Cahill
2018-10-09 03:52:09 UTC
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acidification
noun [ U ] UK/əˌsɪd.ɪ.fɪˈkeɪ.ʃən/ US ​ /əˌsɪd.ɪ.fɪˈkeɪ.ʃən/ specialized

"the process of becoming an acid or the act of making something become an acid"
Eggsactly what burning tar goop is doing to the ocean!
R Kym Horsell
2018-10-09 05:08:49 UTC
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acidification
noun [ U ] UK/??s?d.?.f?'ke?.??n/ US ? /??s?d.?.f?'ke?.??n/ specialized
(All I sees is "sad fake sad fake".)
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?
"the process of becoming an acid or the act of making something become an acid"
Eggsactly what burning tar goop is doing to the ocean!
But you cain tur sommin into ay acid unless it is ay acid to star wid!!
Dis ood jus Basic hillbilly logic!?!?!?!
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BUT, BUT, BUT, ... ISN'T THAT WHAT GLOBAL COOLING WAS SUPPOSED TO DO AS WELL?
No. Colder oceans would result in less evaporation. The air would then
contain less moisture that could precipitate on land.
Don't change the subject.
We are talking about global cooling!
-- Bonzo [daily nymshifter], 17 Mar 2012 13:38 +1100
Wally W.
2018-10-09 11:18:38 UTC
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acidification
noun [ U ] UK/??s?d.?.f?'ke?.??n/ US ? /??s?d.?.f?'ke?.??n/ specialized
(All I sees is "sad fake sad fake".)
Post by Bret Cahill
Post by Catoni
?
"the process of becoming an acid or the act of making something become an acid"
Eggsactly what burning tar goop is doing to the ocean!
But you cain tur sommin into ay acid unless it is ay acid to star wid!!
Dis ood jus Basic hillbilly logic!?!?!?!
It is untwisted language, unlike the "sentences" above.
Catoni
2018-10-09 10:54:09 UTC
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acidification
noun [ U ] UK/əˌsɪd.ɪ.fɪˈkeɪ.ʃən/ US ​ /əˌsɪd.ɪ.fɪˈkeɪ.ʃən/ specialized

"the process of becoming an acid or the act of making something become an acid"
Eggsactly what burning tar goop is doing to the ocean!
Liar.... since CO2 can NEVER make the oceans acidic or acid.... then to claim that oceans are experiencing acidification due to CO2 is a LIE ! !
Bret Cahill
2018-10-10 05:09:24 UTC
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acidification
noun [ U ] UK/əˌsɪd.ɪ.fɪˈkeɪ.ʃən/ US ​ /əˌsɪd.ɪ.fɪˈkeɪ.ʃən/ specialized

"the process of becoming an acid or the act of making something become an acid"
Eggsactly what burning tar goop is doing to the ocean!
Liar....
Deniers tink CO2 makes water basic?
Catoni
2018-10-10 21:04:59 UTC
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Deniers tink CO2 makes water basic?
Put it this way. Atmospheric CO2 will NEVER... and has NEVER in the past... made the oceans acidic.

Sea water can only aborb a certain amount of CO2 and no more. It reaches saturation point and stops absorbing CO2 while the water is still alkaline/base.......LONG before it becomes acidic.

So you and your Alarmist comrades stop your damn Lies...
John Smith
2018-10-10 21:08:11 UTC
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acidification
noun [ U ] UK/əˌsɪd.ɪ.fɪˈkeɪ.ʃən/ US ​ /əˌsɪd.ɪ.fɪˈkeɪ.ʃən/ specialized

"the process of becoming an acid or the act of making something become an acid"
Eggsactly what burning tar goop is doing to the ocean!
Liar....
Deniers tink CO2 makes water basic?
Huh?

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