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M***@kymhorsell.com
2018-05-28 04:11:27 UTC
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Flash floods rip through Ellicott City, Maryland, for second time in nearly 2 years

Emanuella Grinberg & Janet DiGiacomo
28 May 2018 0308 GMT
CNN

[video] Heavy flooding ravages Baltimore-metro city

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan declared a state of emergency Sun in
Howard County as a massive storm drenched the Baltimore region,
triggering flash floods in Ellicott City. Brown water rushed through
Ellicott City's historic Main Street, toppling buildings and upending
cars, as the nearby Patapsco River swelled to a record-breaking
level. In some areas, water levels reached above the first floor of
buildings, Howard County Fire and EMS said.

@wjz Ellicott City Flooded Again pic.twitter.com/2PZ62QlNR5
- Zachary Landow (@zrlandow) May 27, 2018

No injuries or fatalities have been reported, Howard County Executive
Allan Kittleman said in a Sun night news conference.

The devastation was especially hard to comprehend coming barely two
years after the last flood that ravaged the city, he said. The
disaster left 2 dead and damaged dozens of buildings.

The city rallied around the slogan "Elliott City Strong." Many
businesses had just finished rebuilding, Kittleman said.

"There are no words," he said. "It's heartbreaking."

Advisories in effect

Ellicott City is an unincorporated community about 12 miles west of
Baltimore. Located in the valley of the Patapsco River, a major
waterway flowing to Chesapeake Bay, Ellicott City is known for its
flood-prone location as much as its historic downtown.

The river rose 17.8 feet in 2 hours on Sun afternoon to 24.13
feet, a new record from the previous high of 23.6 feet.

The National Weather Service issued a flash flood warning for
northeastern Anne Arundel County and southeastern Howard County
through 12:45 a.m. Mon.

The NWS provided observed rainfall accumulations for the past 24 hours
in the greater Baltimore area showing widespread observed amounts of
three to 6 inches with isolated measurements exceeding 9 inches.

Additional rainfall amounts of one inch could come, the NWS said. That
may not sound like a lot, but any additional rainfall will exacerbate
the flooding from the rain that has already fallen, and this will
delay river levels from receding below flood stage quickly, CNN's
Allison Chinchar said.

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WPLG Local 10, 27 May 2018 16:52Z
The National Weather Service extended the flood watch for Broward,
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CBS Miami ...
[Later reports say threat of storm surge has abated].

Floods receding but risks remain - DMC
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adverse weather conditions still remain, the Disaster Management Centre
(DMC) said ...

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Weather Alert: Flash Flood Watch for DC Area as Heavy Rains Move In
NBC4 Washington, 27 May 2018 19:49Z
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after 3:30 ...

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Alberto intensifies. Flood watch extended.
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Subtropical storm Alberto intensifies with top winds now up to 65 mph.
Alberto will likely make landfall on the Western Florida Panhandle
during the day Mon ...

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Massive 1 in 1000 y flood hits Baltimore again
7news, 28 May 2018 04:02Z
30cm of rain in an hour has turned a flood warning into a flood
emergency with raging floodwater sweeping through Ellicott City late Sun.
When similar rain fell in 2016 it was called a 1 in 1000y event.
JTEM is right
2018-05-28 04:19:59 UTC
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Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
Massive 1 in 1000 y flood hits Baltimore again
Pretending it's true -- and few if any of
these weather anomalies turn out to be
real anomalies -- that means conditions
today match 1,000 years ago... LONG BEFORE
fossil fuels use, LONG BEFORE the global
warming narrative allows for humans impacting
on the climate.




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Bret Cahill
2018-05-28 21:53:35 UTC
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Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
Massive 1 in 1000 y flood hits Baltimore again
Pretending it's true -- and few if any of
these weather anomalies turn out to be
real anomalies -- that means conditions
today match 1,000 years ago...
You kood git a job as an actuwarial!
R Kym Horsell
2018-05-28 21:56:42 UTC
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Post by Bret Cahill
Post by JTEM is right
Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
Massive 1 in 1000 y flood hits Baltimore again
Pretending it's true -- and few if any of
these weather anomalies turn out to be
real anomalies -- that means conditions
today match 1,000 years ago...
You kood git a job as an actuwarial!
But you need number skills fer dat, not just a big dum opinine.
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Post by Bret Cahill
If increasing CO2 stops that terrestrial IR from leaving the system,
it will also block solar IR from entering the system.
[N]othing stops energy leaving or entering the system

[Later mis-remembered as:]
And this form the person who thinks you can raise the temperature of
mater without it holding more energy.
-- matt sykes, June 13, 2012 7:02:43 PM UTC+10

[and later as:]
[It was] YOU who said that even though there is warming there is no more
heat in the system.
-- matt sykes, June 14, 2012 1:07:30 AM UTC+10
Catoni
2018-05-28 23:31:58 UTC
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"massive 1 in 1000 y flood hits Baltimore again"
<https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/27/us/ellicott-city-maryland-flooding/index.html>
Flash floods rip through Ellicott City, Maryland, for second time in nearly 2 years
Baltimore is not the globe.

Prove to us that Gobal Warming/Climate Change caused it . Go right ahead...

Bring the proof here to this group.
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2018-05-29 00:18:32 UTC
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Pity it didn't drown the who s--- city.
AlleyCat
2018-06-01 05:35:07 UTC
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Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
The NWS provided observed rainfall accumulations for the past 24 hours
in the greater Baltimore area showing widespread observed amounts of
three to 6 inches with isolated measurements exceeding 9 inches.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Big fucking deal. Bal'more needs to learn how to dig trenches and install
better runoff systems.

Tarrytown, NY had 11.6" of rain in a 24 hour period.

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During a classic El Nino year in 1913, heavy rains drenched Texas. In this
photo (Loading Image...),
taken during the December 1913 floods, kids wade in feet-high water on St.
Mary's Street at Houston Streets.

The last tens days in November 1913 saw heavy rains that laid the
foundation for flooding during the first five days of December. Rainfall
totals measured 20 to 25 inches, causing 180 drownings.

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The Thrall Flood in 1921 drenched San Antonio due to a tropical storm that
formed in the Bay of Campeche. In this photo from Sept. 21, 1921, soldiers
float in a boat down St. Mary's Street. During 36 hours, the amount of
rainfall stood at 39.7 inches, which drowned 51 people.

As a result of the Sept. 9-10, 1921 flood, the city decided to build the
Olmos Dam to deter flash flooding. This photo shows one of the 13 bridges
that were destroyed due to the flood.

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In 1935, exceptional floods occurred in May on Seco Creek, in June on the
Colorado and Nueces Rivers and their tributaries, and in December on
Buffalo Bayou. This photo shows a washed out downtown Houston after
Buffalo Bayou flooding in December 1935.
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A flood in May 1949 marked the worst flood in Fort Worth's history, due to
the Clear Fork of the Trinity River breaking its levees and spilling into
the city. This photo shows an overview of a soaked Fort Worth on May 17,
1949.

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Alvin, Texas, was deluged by 43 inches of rain in 24 hours from July 24-
25, 1979, setting an all-time record 24-hour rainfall for the U.S.

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Teabaggers don't know a fucking thing, because they don't want to know.
Keep that head squarely up your boyfriends' ass, liberals.

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It's "weather" when the temperatures don't agree with what climate
screechers have to say, and then it's climate change, when it does.

"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running."

Byker
2018-06-01 17:56:51 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
During a classic El Nino year in 1913, heavy rains drenched Texas. In this
photo (http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/35/05/66/7626161/3/1024x1024.jpg),
taken during the December 1913 floods, kids wade in feet-high water on St.
Mary's Street at Houston Streets.
The last tens days in November 1913 saw heavy rains that laid the
foundation for flooding during the first five days of December. Rainfall
totals measured 20 to 25 inches, causing 180 drownings.
This was SoCal a couple of years later:

http://sunnycv.com/southbay/exhibits/flood.html

https://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/news/the-mother-of-all-floods/

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/local-history/sdut-charles-hatfield-1916-rainfall-el-nino-san-diego-2015nov21-htmlstory.html

What were the CO2 levels then?
AlleyCat
2018-07-05 23:46:47 UTC
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Post by M***@kymhorsell.com
The NWS provided observed rainfall accumulations for the past 24 hours
in the greater Baltimore area showing widespread observed amounts of
three to 6 inches with isolated measurements exceeding 9 inches.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Big fucking deal. Bal'more needs to learn how to dig trenches and install
better runoff systems.

Tarrytown, NY had 11.6" of rain in a 24 hour period.

=====

During a classic El Nino year in 1913, heavy rains drenched Texas. In this
photo (http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/35/05/66/7626161/3/1024x1024.jpg),
taken during the December 1913 floods, kids wade in feet-high water on St.
Mary's Street at Houston Streets.

The last tens days in November 1913 saw heavy rains that laid the
foundation for flooding during the first five days of December. Rainfall
totals measured 20 to 25 inches, causing 180 drownings.

***************************

The Thrall Flood in 1921 drenched San Antonio due to a tropical storm that
formed in the Bay of Campeche. In this photo from Sept. 21, 1921, soldiers
float in a boat down St. Mary's Street. During 36 hours, the amount of
rainfall stood at 39.7 inches, which drowned 51 people.

As a result of the Sept. 9-10, 1921 flood, the city decided to build the
Olmos Dam to deter flash flooding. This photo shows one of the 13 bridges
that were destroyed due to the flood.

***************************

In 1935, exceptional floods occurred in May on Seco Creek, in June on the
Colorado and Nueces Rivers and their tributaries, and in December on
Buffalo Bayou. This photo shows a washed out downtown Houston after
Buffalo Bayou flooding in December 1935.
http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/34/34/61/7457856/3/1024x1024.jpg

***************************

A flood in May 1949 marked the worst flood in Fort Worth's history, due to
the Clear Fork of the Trinity River breaking its levees and spilling into
the city. This photo shows an overview of a soaked Fort Worth on May 17,
1949.

***************************

Alvin, Texas, was deluged by 43 inches of rain in 24 hours from July 24-
25, 1979, setting an all-time record 24-hour rainfall for the U.S.

***************************

Teabaggers don't know a fucking thing, because they don't want to know.
Keep that head squarely up your boyfriends' ass, liberals.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/2lmup3d.jpg
--
Climate Hillbilly Davis

It's "weather" when the temperatures don't agree with what climate
screechers have to say, and then it's climate change, when it does.

"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running."
http://youtu.be/J9Oi7x2OBdI
k***@gmail.com
2018-07-06 18:49:54 UTC
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.""However, over the fifteen years to 2016 the HadCRUT4v5 and Cowtan & Way GMST trends, of 0.138°C /century and 0.160°C /century respectively, are equally close to the 0.149°C /century ERAinterim trend; the GISTEMP and NOAAv4.0.1 trends are both above 0.17°C /century..."""
Byker
2018-07-06 19:55:34 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
During a classic El Nino year in 1913, heavy rains drenched Texas. In this
photo (http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/35/05/66/7626161/3/1024x1024.jpg),
taken during the December 1913 floods, kids wade in feet-high water on St.
Mary's Street at Houston Streets.
The last tens days in November 1913 saw heavy rains that laid the
foundation for flooding during the first five days of December. Rainfall
totals measured 20 to 25 inches, causing 180 drownings.
What were the CO2 levels in 1916 when SoCal had two weeks of torrential
rain, burst dams, and massive flooding?

During early 1916, heavy rains caused floods throughout Southern California,
virtually cutting off San Diego County from the rest of the state for the
greater part of a month. Due to the floods 28 people died and about ten
million dollars in damages were caused, with the greatest losses occurring
in San Diego County, where twenty-two people died mostly in Otay River
valley when the Lower Otay Dam failed, releasing the contents of the Lower
Otay Reservoir. Another estimate, was that fifty lives were lost in San
Diego County. Among the dead was an early Japanese American colony. San
Diego residents blamed the floods on "rainmaker" Charles Hatfield, who was
hired by the city of San Diego to create rain: https://tinyurl.com/ybhucg4p

https://pubs.usgs.gov/wsp/0426/report.pdf

https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=MG19160205.2.30

https://books.google.com/books?id=seu9_GFJWvIC&pg=PA38#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/local-history/sdut-charles-hatfield-1916-rainfall-el-nino-san-diego-2015nov21-htmlstory.html
Hillbilly Davis
2018-07-06 23:52:51 UTC
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Total Radio Silence

These religious climate change screechers screech that it has NEVER been
warmer, never as wet, never have we had as little snow, never has there
been as little ice, but then clam up like little sissy-girls at bedtime
during their pajama-boy party, when PROVEN they are dead wrong and lying
through their crooked-ass teeth.

EVERYTHING that is happening "now", has happened before, and not ONLY in
that made-up, not-so-clever crap time, rednecks and AUSTRALIAN bogans call
the "Big Banglocene".

THAT'S the kind of bullshit they try to play, when you point out that
something has happened in the past, and destroys their stupid bullshit
hypotheses and models.

It's, "Dude... that was like, 10 years ago", as if THAT was soooo or toooo
long ago and that everything has changed so much since, that it doesn't
MATTER that it has happened before.

BULLSHIT.

These tards and those like them have been screeching this bullshit for the
better part of a century now.

WHEN ARE WE ALL GONNA DIE!!??

We're not, and they KNOW we're not, (they also know it's not getting much
warmer), so they shifted to "climate change" (because THAT happens
naturally too) and to showing us how much SOLAR and WIND are "out-pacing
fossil-fuels" in "new" technology, because their climate doomsday bullshit
ain't gonna fly.

New and alternate technology being developed, does NOT prove man is
responsible for the warmth OR the climate "change". Where exactly has the
climate changed"? Where have deserts turned to rain-forests... where have
rain-forests turned to deserts because of a little CO² and not from clear-
cutting?

There IS no "new technology" in fossil-fuels, so ANY development of ANY
kind of new energy technology, is going to "out-pace" FFs in the energy
realm, but only as far AS new technology. There are more cars and trucks
being put on the road every day, that are NOT being out-paced by electric
cars.

Solar and wind out-pacing coal and oil in new technology, is not some sort
of "gauge" to where we're heading, energy and fossil-fuel-use-wise,
because there are MORE people born everyday on Earth, and MORE that are
driving FOSSIL-FUELED cars and trucks and boats and planes and all the
other form of industry and transportation that solar and wind can not
POSSIBLY replace.

Who the fuck CARES if entire towns, or COUNTRIES, for that matter, are
turning to solar and wind? Solar and wind can't run a blast furnace, you
fucktards.

You idiots brag about whole towns turning to solar and wind... that's JUST
for creature comforts and maybe transportation. Try running a sewage
system lumber yard with solar or wind.

Solar and wind can't fly more than two people any faster than I can
walk... and MAYBE just a little farther.

So much to say, too little interest in showing any further these idiots
for the fools they are. I can see them now, crying like the snowflakes did
when Hitlerry lost, when they come to realize that fossil-fuels will burn
just as bright and just as loud and just as long as it always has.

And the left wingers will NOT profit from it.

[giggle]

I will NOT sink to there level and put a <CAP> here for them... they know
what they DIDN'T do already, but I'll give them another chance...

What were the CO² levels in 1913 and 1921, when MORE rain fell, than fell
on Ellicott City, MD. last may?
--
Climate Hillbilly Davis

It's "weather" when the temperatures don't agree with what climate
screechers have to say, and then it's climate change, when it does.

"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running."
http://youtu.be/J9Oi7x2OBdI
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