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Nebraska slammed by worst flooding in 50 years after massive 'bomb cyclone', Obama loons say global warming
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Deplorable Redneck
2019-03-17 10:49:37 UTC
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At least one man is dead, two others are missing and nearly 900
people are inside temporary shelters amid the worst flooding in
Nebraska in 50 years following a "bomb cyclone" storm that
wreaked havoc across the Great Plains this week.

Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts and the the state's national guard
on Friday surveyed the damage – including flooded farms, homes,
bridges and highways – caused by what Ricketts called
"devastating flooding" that's perhaps the worst in a half-
century.

"This could last for quite some time,” he said, urging people to
"watch the weather and waterways in their communities closely in
the coming days, and be prepared for historic levels of flooding
even if it has not hit their community yet."

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Nebraska has been in a state of emergency since Tuesday due to
heavy rainfall. The massive "bomb cyclone" battered the central
United States this week with heavy snow, howling winds and
several tornadoes. Flooding has forced evacuations in Wisconsin,
South Dakota and Minnesota as well.

Stretches of interstates across Nebraska have been shut down. At
least four bridges on state highways are washed out and damaged.
The Nebraska National Guard on Saturday morning warned residents
that it's still dangerous to travel despite the sun that finally
appeared.

"We repeat: It is still dangerous to enter any flood waters, and
roads continue to be closed across the state," the Nebraska
National Guard tweeted. "DO NOT TRAVEL unless necessary, and
NEVER drive through flood waters."


NE National Guard
@NENationalGuard
We repeat: It is still dangerous to enter any flood waters, and
roads continue to be closed across the state. DO NOT TRAVEL
unless necessary, and NEVER drive through flood waters.

Maj Gen Daryl Bohac
@NETAGBohac
Flooding around Valley NE. Still dangerous to enter any flood
waters #TurnAroundDontDrown

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The Nebraska Emergency Management Agency has reported emergency
declarations in 41 cities and 53 of Nebraska's 93 counties,
largely in the northeast part of the state that includes the
state's largest city Omaha.

But NEMA set out to dispel reports that a nuclear plant, the
Cooper Nuclear Station Facility, near Brownsville, Nebraska, is
a threat to flood.

"The photo below is FALSE NEWS — Cooper Nuclear Station Facility
is operating at full power," NEMA tweeted. "They have 100%
access via an alternate road."

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NEMA
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@NEMAtweets
The photo below is FALSE NEWS— Cooper Nuclear Station Facility
is operating at full power. They have 100% access via an
alternate road. @NEMAtweets will update the public if that
situation changes.

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The Omaha-World Herald has reported one fatality, a farmer in
the town of Columbus. James Wilke drove his tractor out to
assist flood victims despite the howling wind and rain. Two
others are believed to be missing.

Wilke tried to cross a bridge, the newspaper reported, but it
collapsed because of the tractor's weight, sending Wilkes into a
rising creek underneath. His body was discovered around nine
hours later near his farm.

"He was always the first to go help somebody,” the newspaper
quoted his cousin, Paul Wilke, saying. “He was a person who
wouldn’t just talk about making things better. He would do it."

Meanwhile, a levee breech in Fremont, about 50 miles northwest
of Omaha, forced evacuations in some parts of the community to
seek higher ground.

The Nebraska-SW Iowa Region of the Red Cross has set up several
temporary shelters across Nebraska for people to seek refuge.
Red Cross has said they've served 880 folks so far.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/03/16/nebraska-
flooding-worst-50-years-following-bomb-cyclone-storm/3184806002/
TrumpenFuehrer News Network
2019-03-17 13:59:14 UTC
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Post by Deplorable Redneck
At least one man is dead, two others are missing and nearly 900
people are inside temporary shelters amid the worst flooding in
Nebraska in 50 years following a "bomb cyclone" storm that
wreaked havoc across the Great Plains this week.
Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts and the the state's national guard
on Friday surveyed the damage - including flooded farms, homes,
bridges and highways - caused by what Ricketts called
"devastating flooding" that's perhaps the worst in a half-
century.
"This could last for quite some time," he said, urging people to
"watch the weather and waterways in their communities closely in
the coming days, and be prepared for historic levels of flooding
even if it has not hit their community yet."
God is punishing them for supporting Trump.
AlleyCat
2019-03-18 02:48:15 UTC
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On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 11:49:37 +0100 (CET), Deplorable Redneck says...
Post by Deplorable Redneck
worst flooding in
Nebraska in 50 years
So... it's not unprecedented. Tell the bogans that.
Post by Deplorable Redneck
one man is dead
Wow... that's a lot of FATALITIES.

For the bogans:

Mill River Dam
Affected area: Western Massachusetts
Date of event: 1874
FATALITIES: 139
Cost: Unknown

What were the CO² levels in 1874?

288ppm

Floods aren't caused by CO².

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Brazos River Flood
Affected area: Freeport, Texas
Date of event: 1913
FATALITIES: 177
Cost: $88.7 million

What were the CO² levels in 1913?

301ppm

Floods aren't caused by CO².

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Texas flood
Affected area: Parts of Texas
Date of event: 1921
FATALITIES: 215
Cost: $70.2 million

What were the CO² levels in 1921?

303ppm

Floods aren't caused by CO².

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Great Northeast Flood
Affected area: Maryland to Maine
Date of event: 1936
FATALITIES: 200
Cost: $85.2 billion

What were the CO² levels in 1936?

310ppm

Floods aren't caused by CO².

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Los Angeles flood
Affected area: Los Angeles, California
Date of event: 1938
FATALITIES: 115
Cost: $1.24 billion

What were the CO² levels in 1938?

311ppm

Floods aren't caused by CO².
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BeamMeUpScotty
2019-03-18 17:29:22 UTC
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               --------
https://quizlet.com/27748910/chapter-18-science-flash-cards/
Saturated warm air contains more water vapor than saturated cold air."
True.
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Weather vs climate_
Isn't that your favorite comment_
It's a GLOBAL WARMING solution to a GLOBAL WARMING DROUGHT.


But didn't we always have droughts.... and floods?
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AlleyCat
2019-03-19 02:02:49 UTC
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 07:29:14 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
Saturated warm air contains more water vapor than saturated cold air."
What a fucking dumb ass. If they're BOTH "saturated", they have the SAME
level of water vapour. Dumbass.

Saturated is saturated.

From the Washington COMPost (if YOU don't believe what comes from THAT
left wing rag, there's NO fucking hope for you).

A oft-repeated water vapor MYTH is that warm air can "hold" more water
vapor than cool air because as the air warms its molecules move farther
apart, making room for more molecules. This leads to the idea that as air
cools its molecules move closer together, "squeezing" out water vapor.

If you look at what happens in nature, such as clouds beginning to form
when the air rises and grows colder, the idea that condensation begins
when the air grows too cold to "hold" the water vapor in it seems to make
sense.
But, saying cold air can't hold as much water vapor as warmer air is at
best a metaphor for what happens. It's a metaphor that can lead people
astray as they try to understand weather.

saturated
[sach-uh-rey-tid]
adjective

soaked, impregnated, or imbued THOROUGHLY; CHARGED THOROUGHLY or
COMPLETELY; brought to a state of saturation.

(of a solution) containing the MAXIMUM AMOUNT of solute capable of
being dissolved under given conditions.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a fucking dumb ass.

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True of false: I said nothing about warm air or water vapour or weather
or climate.

True.

Fucktard.
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AlleyCat
2019-03-20 00:32:47 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 08:06:59 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
Note the word *hold* appears in quotes in the article below, meaning the word is used with a qualified meaning.
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"Note" that YOUR original point was NOT whether cold air can "hold" as
much as warm air.

Move that goalpost, Tom "Bi" The NOT-A-SCIENTIST Guy

"True or false: Saturated warm air contains more water vapor than
saturated cold air."

LOL...

Doesn't matter... it's still a myth that cold air can't HOLD as much water
as warm air.

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Does Warm Air "Hold" More Water Vapor Than Cold Air?

By Jack Williams
September 11, 2013 (no, idiot... the properties of warm and cool air have
NOT changed in 5? years)

A OFT-repeated water vapor MYTH is that warm air can "hold" more water
vapor than cool air because as the air warms its molecules move farther
apart, making room for more molecules. This leads to the idea that as air
cools its molecules move closer together, "squeezing" out water vapor.

[giggle]

If you look at what happens in nature, such as clouds beginning to form
when the air rises and grows colder, the idea that condensation begins
when the air grows too cold to "hold" the water vapor in it SEEMS to make
sense (and for you dumbasses out there, like Tom Sr.... "seems" means it
doesn't, really... LOL).

But, saying cold air can't hold as much water vapor as warmer air is at
best a metaphor for what happens. It's a metaphor that can lead people
astray AS THEY TRY TO UNDERSTAND WEATHER.

OBVIOUSLY, Tom Sr. DOESN'T.

To begin with, it doesn't make any physical sense because the air around
us is mostly empty space with molecules of nitrogen, oxygen, water vapor,
and other gases zipping around at speeds in the neighborhood of 1,000 mph
near the ground.

There's plenty of room for water vapor molecules to join the mix. As we
saw above, they would displace some of the nitrogen and oxygen molecules.
We can think of these displaced molecules spreading out into nearby, drier
air. As the air grows colder the average speeds of all of the gasses in
the air slow down, but there is still plenty of room for water vapor.

The best way to see what happens when water evaporates into water vapor
and when this vapor condenses back into water is to imagine a drinking
glass full of water in a room where the air is still. We also need to
imagine we can see water molecules.

If so, you'd see water molecules moving around at various speeds in the
water in the glass glass and also in the air above the water as vapor. On
the average, the molecules in the glass are moving slower than those in
the air. The liquid molecules in the glass are, on the average, slow
enough for intermolecular forces to hold them in the glass while they
otherwise move freely.

The vapor molecules in the air are moving fast enough to overcome
intermolecular forces.

In both cases the molecules are not all moving at the same speed, but at a
wide range of speeds with most of these speeds relatively close to the
average, but a few are moving much faster and others much slower.
Some of the molecules in the glass will be moving fast enough to escape
the water and fly into the air; they evaporate into vapor. In a similar
way, some vapor molecules in the air are going slowly enough to be pulled
into the water by intermolecular forces when they hit the water; they
condense into liquid.

If a breeze is not carrying away water molecules that evaporate into the
air and the temperature doesn't change the number of molecules evaporating
and those condensing are roughly the same. The air isn't becoming more
humid and water is staying at the same level in the glass.

If you cooled the room the average speeds of the water molecules in both
the water and the air would slow. You'd see more water molecules in the
air moving slowly enough to stay in the water when they hit - they've
condensed. At the same time fewer molecules in the water are moving fast
enough to evaporate. The water level in the glass would increase.

If you warmed the room and the water the average speed of the molecules
would increase and more would evaporate until a new equilibrium is reached
between evaporation and condensation.
In the everyday atmosphere, if the air is cooled enough as it rises water
molecules slow down enough to attach to tiny particles in the air known as
condensation nuclei to begin forming fog or cloud drops. At ground level
they form dew drops on grass and objects such as cars.

For more on why saying condensation begins when the air can no longer hold
the water vapor in it is both wrong and can lead to wrong conclusions, see
Alistair B. Fraser's "Bad Clouds" page on his Bad Meteorology site on the
Pennsylvania State University Web site.

http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadClouds.html
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Lothar DeBaser
2019-03-20 16:29:43 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 07:29:14 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
Saturated warm air contains more water vapor than saturated cold air."
You are getting a bit confused. Check out the 'dew-point':-

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dew_point>
"The dew point is the temperature to which air must be cooled to become
saturated with water vapor. When further cooled, the airborne water
vapor will condense to form liquid water (dew). When air cools to its
dew point through contact with a surface that is colder than the air,
water will condense on the surface."

i.e. when the water was warmer it wasn't saturated
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Lothar DeBaser
2019-03-20 16:30:53 UTC
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Post by Lothar DeBaser
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 07:29:14 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
Saturated warm air contains more water vapor than saturated cold air."
You are getting a bit confused. Check out the 'dew-point':-
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dew_point>
"The dew point is the temperature to which air must be cooled to become
saturated with water vapor. When further cooled, the airborne water
vapor will condense to form liquid water (dew). When air cools to its
dew point through contact with a surface that is colder than the air,
water will condense on the surface."
i.e. when the water was warmer it wasn't saturated
doh!------------AIR---------------------------------
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R Kym Horsell
2019-03-20 17:34:15 UTC
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Post by Lothar DeBaser
Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 07:29:14 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
Saturated warm air contains more water vapor than saturated cold air."
You are getting a bit confused. Check out the 'dew-point':-
The kid was born with a silver "F" in physics in his mout.
Dat set him up fer da res of hid lif.
Post by Lothar DeBaser
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dew_point>
"The dew point is the temperature to which air must be cooled to become
saturated with water vapor. When further cooled, the airborne water
vapor will condense to form liquid water (dew). When air cools to its
dew point through contact with a surface that is colder than the air,
water will condense on the surface."
i.e. when the water was warmer it wasn't saturated
--
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The rough-hewn sandstone buildings perched atop Observatory Hill have been
keeping an eye on Sydney Harbor since 1858. They've pretty much seen it
all - from the installation of the city's first gaslights to the construction of
the now iconic Sydney Opera House and Harbor Bridge.
But at 2:55 p.m. on January 18, 2013, meteorological equipment in the
observatory registered something new: a read-out marking the hottest day in
the city's history: 45.8?C (114.4?F).
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130524-australia-extreme-weather-climate-change-heat-wave-science-world/>
AlleyCat
2019-03-21 01:38:21 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 17:34:15 +0000 (UTC), R Kym Horsell says...
Post by R Kym Horsell
Post by Lothar DeBaser
Saturated warm air contains more water vapor than saturated cold air."
You are getting a bit confused. Check out the 'dew-point':-
The kid was born with a silver "F" in physics in his mout.
Dat set him up fer da res of hid lif.
Typical Australian Colt Clan inbred keyboard cowboy bullshit... THINKS he
has the courage to insult someone he THINKS is inferior to him, but offers
ZERO refutations.

Let's hear it, Kym the Science Guy... explain where all arguments on this
topic are wrong.

<CIA>

That is NOT a plea to have someone talk wif me, like the loner basement
dwellers here often lament. They use the <CIA> to 'make" people talk with
them, because they're shut-ins and need the company.

[giggle]
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https://canadafreepress.com/article/australia-weather-bureau-caught-
tampering-with-climate-numbers

https://climatism.blog/2017/08/03/australia-weather-bureau-caught-
tampering-with-climate-numbers/

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/643053-australia-weather-bureau-
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AlleyCat
2019-03-19 02:04:50 UTC
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 07:29:14 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
Saturated warm air contains more water vapor than saturated cold air."
What a fucking dumb ass. If they're BOTH "saturated", they have the SAME
level of water vapour. Dumbass.

Saturated is saturated.

From the Washington COMPost (if YOU don't believe what comes from THAT
left wing rag, there's NO fucking hope for you).

Loading Image...

A oft-repeated water vapor MYTH is that warm air can "hold" more water
vapor than cool air because as the air warms its molecules move farther
apart, making room for more molecules. This leads to the idea that as air
cools its molecules move closer together, "squeezing" out water vapor.

If you look at what happens in nature, such as clouds beginning to form
when the air rises and grows colder, the idea that condensation begins
when the air grows too cold to "hold" the water vapor in it seems to make
sense.
But, saying cold air can't hold as much water vapor as warmer air is at
best a metaphor for what happens. It's a metaphor that can lead people
astray as they try to understand weather.

saturated
[sach-uh-rey-tid]
adjective

soaked, impregnated, or imbued THOROUGHLY; CHARGED THOROUGHLY or
COMPLETELY; brought to a state of saturation.

(of a solution) containing the MAXIMUM AMOUNT of solute capable of
being dissolved under given conditions.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a fucking dumb ass.

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True of false: I said nothing about warm air or water vapour or weather
or climate.

True.

Fucktard.
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AlleyCat
2019-03-19 02:05:11 UTC
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:02:38 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
I do not think I have ever written "weather vs. climate"...
That is likely your own sloppy, scientifically-illiterate *belief*.
You know what the fuck he meant by that, you fucking little child.
I have said, many times, "Weather is not climate."
What a fucking little child.
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AlleyCat
2019-03-19 23:51:33 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 04:15:11 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
Post by AlleyCat
What a fucking little child.
AlleyKKKat ranted.
Proof positive.

What a fucking little child.
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AlleyCat
2019-03-21 00:27:32 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 06:55:42 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
I have never claimed to, I am well aware of my limitations.
BUT you, David Hartung, are *not* well enough aware of your limitations
to recognize when someone DOES have more knowledge and understanding
Tell us, tee tee tickler... how much "knowledge did *YOU* have about
climate change before you started reading about it on the Internet? I'm
thinking that you're a little old for it to have been taught to you in
school, so how is it that you know more about it than ANYONE here?

YOU don't have ANY more "knowledge" than anyone else here, TTTTom, and you
know it. YOU look this shit up on the Internet JUST like everyone else.

How do I KNOW this?

Because you NEVER post YOUR thoughts and ideas... it's ALWAYS an article
from the Internet. YOU never debate anyone with your own knowledge. We say
something YOU can't refute... out come the Internet articles from bullshit
alarmists sites or the bullshit psycho-babble sites, saying
"dennnnierrrs" are mentally unstable. (see below)

Well, you know where I stand on that...

"Psychologists say that many who have been listening excessively to
climate alarmists are now ready for therapy."

http://notrickszone.com/2013/10/31/green-psychologists-confirm-climate-
alarmists-are-making-themselves-mentally-sick-doomer-depression/

Horror Scenarios Promote Depression

https://suyts.wordpress.com/2013/10/31/lol-another-thing-skeptics-were-
right-about-climate-alarmism-tied-to-mental-illness/

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On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 10:57:16 -0800 (PST), Tom Sr. says...
*Climate Change Denial*
What a bunch of fucking horse shit. The world has been warmer WITHOUT CO²
at 400ppm, dumbass.

NO RESPONSE.

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Top Scientist Hal Lewis Resigns Over Climate Change Corruption

"In his 1990 book Technological Risk he warned of the risks of global
warming. In 2010, after 67 years of membership, he resigned from the
American Physical Society, citing what he saw as "corruption" from "the
money flood" of government grants related to global warming." - wikipedia

NO RESPONSE.

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On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
The EEALITY(sic) of Climate Change by Global Warming.
Overfishing, idiot... not Global Warming.

NO RESPONSE.

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NO RESPONSE.

Oh Tommy Tee Tee Tasterrrrrr - Why Don't You Ever Call Me No More and
Answer My Questions on Global Warming?

On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 05:57:56 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...

"Bumble Bees' tongues are getting shorter"... when was the last time YOU
French kissed a Bumble Bee, man-kisser?

NO RESPONSE.

You gonna take someone else's word for it?

NO RESPONSE.

Why didn't the bee's tongues get shorter during the Holocene Maximum which
lasted THREE THOUSAND YEARS, faggot!!??

NO RESPONSE.
Cause and effect.
No... opportunistic "science" bloggers taking advantage of the "timing" of
what they lie about... Global Warming (adjusted as Climate Change).

You fucking asshole koOks on the left, take EVERYTHING that changes in
NATURE and link it to Global warming, so you can gain power and
redistribute money away from those who have it now.

This has been going on for decades...

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=5ca7vk&s=8#.VgW1U7XBbmE

You Homocrats are so into evolution... maybe that's what this is? Ever
think of that?

(see below)

Of course not... that doesn't fit your agenda... you wanting power shifted
away from big oil and coal.

Are you STILL too chicken shit to tell us why, chicken shit?
SCIENCE.
No... desperation.

... and the piece de resistance?

http://www.theatlantic.com

Ole Tom butt-fucker thinks that if ANYONE puts ANYTHING "man-made" climate
related on their website... it's TRUE. He wants us to think that evolution
can take place over 140 years and ONE degree temperature rise. LOL

Eh... nope.

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"Lasting Evolutionary Change Takes About One Million Years"

https://today.oregonstate.edu/archives/2011/aug/lasting-evolutionary-
change-takes-about-one-million-years

Bees' tongues weren't getting shorter, you dumb ass cock-wrangler...
DIFFERENT bees were coming into places were longer-tongued bees had been
before.

Do you REALLY think that Bees' tongues have actually gotten shorter
because it was a few degrees warmer in equatorial New Guinea a few days
out of the year?

NOTHING has changed in Bees because some stupid money-hungry
blogger tries to link everything that is happening to Global Warming.

(edit: turns out it's DIFFERENT bees)
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AlleyCat
2019-03-21 00:31:53 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 06:41:48 -0700, Siri Cruise says...
I have never claimed to, I am well aware of my limitations.
Then how do you know others can't make an informed determination?
Same way YOU check others'... the Internet.

I think you're smart, but whether you're smart or not or have read
anything on the topic, THAT doesn't mean you can store EVERY detail about
EVERY topic you've read about. You can remember that you might have read
something, but you're not going to remember it character by character.

You use the Internet... we know.

Join the crowd of the super-smart, who use the Internet to argue
points. ;-)
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AlleyCat
2019-03-21 00:45:56 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 17:33:32 -0700 (PDT), TTTom Sr. whines...
AlleyKKKat wrote.
K0ok-KOo, kO0K0ko0!
^^^^^^^^^^^
PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION
AlleyCat
2019-03-21 00:39:44 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 07:05:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
You lack the knowledge to make an informed determination of what is
scientific fact, and what is not.
^^^^^^^^^^^
PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION
See?... psycho-babble.
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https://quizlet.com/27748910/chapter-18-science-flash-cards/
Saturated warm air contains more water vapor than saturated cold air."
False.

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From the Washington COMPost (if YOU don't believe what comes from THAT
left wing rag, there's NO fucking hope for you).

https://i.imgur.com/pdmxlmy.jpg

A oft-repeated water vapor MYTH is that warm air can "hold" more water
vapor than cool air because as the air warms its molecules move farther
apart, making room for more molecules. This leads to the idea that as air
cools its molecules move closer together, "squeezing" out water vapor.

If you look at what happens in nature, such as clouds beginning to form
when the air rises and grows colder, the idea that condensation begins
when the air grows too cold to "hold" the water vapor in it seems to make
sense.
But, saying cold air can't hold as much water vapor as warmer air is at
best a metaphor for what happens. It's a metaphor that can lead people
astray as they try to understand weather.

saturated
[sach-uh-rey-tid]
adjective

soaked, impregnated, or imbued THOROUGHLY; CHARGED THOROUGHLY or
COMPLETELY; brought to a state of saturation.

(of a solution) containing the MAXIMUM AMOUNT of solute capable of
being dissolved under given conditions.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a fucking dumb ass.
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AlleyCat
2019-03-21 00:40:15 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 07:05:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...
You lack the knowledge to make an informed determination of what is
scientific fact, and what is not.
^^^^^^^^^^^
PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION
See?... psycho-babble.
--------
https://quizlet.com/27748910/chapter-18-science-flash-cards/
Saturated warm air contains more water vapor than saturated cold air."
False.

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Does Warm Air "Hold" More Water Vapor Than Cold Air?

By Jack Williams
September 11, 2013 (no, idiot... the properties of warm and cool air have
NOT changed in 5? years)

A OFT-repeated water vapor MYTH is that warm air can "hold" more water
vapor than cool air because as the air warms its molecules move farther
apart, making room for more molecules. This leads to the idea that as air
cools its molecules move closer together, "squeezing" out water vapor.

[giggle]

If you look at what happens in nature, such as clouds beginning to form
when the air rises and grows colder, the idea that condensation begins
when the air grows too cold to "hold" the water vapor in it SEEMS to make
sense (and for you dumbasses out there, like Tom Sr.... "seems" means it
doesn't, really... LOL).

But, saying cold air can't hold as much water vapor as warmer air is at
best a metaphor for what happens. It's a metaphor that can lead people
astray AS THEY TRY TO UNDERSTAND WEATHER.

OBVIOUSLY, Tom Sr. DOESN'T.

To begin with, it doesn't make any physical sense because the air around
us is mostly empty space with molecules of nitrogen, oxygen, water vapor,
and other gases zipping around at speeds in the neighborhood of 1,000 mph
near the ground.

There's plenty of room for water vapor molecules to join the mix. As we
saw above, they would displace some of the nitrogen and oxygen molecules.
We can think of these displaced molecules spreading out into nearby, drier
air. As the air grows colder the average speeds of all of the gasses in
the air slow down, but there is still plenty of room for water vapor.

The best way to see what happens when water evaporates into water vapor
and when this vapor condenses back into water is to imagine a drinking
glass full of water in a room where the air is still. We also need to
imagine we can see water molecules.

If so, you'd see water molecules moving around at various speeds in the
water in the glass glass and also in the air above the water as vapor. On
the average, the molecules in the glass are moving slower than those in
the air. The liquid molecules in the glass are, on the average, slow
enough for intermolecular forces to hold them in the glass while they
otherwise move freely.

The vapor molecules in the air are moving fast enough to overcome
intermolecular forces.

In both cases the molecules are not all moving at the same speed, but at a
wide range of speeds with most of these speeds relatively close to the
average, but a few are moving much faster and others much slower.
Some of the molecules in the glass will be moving fast enough to escape
the water and fly into the air; they evaporate into vapor. In a similar
way, some vapor molecules in the air are going slowly enough to be pulled
into the water by intermolecular forces when they hit the water; they
condense into liquid.

If a breeze is not carrying away water molecules that evaporate into the
air and the temperature doesn't change the number of molecules evaporating
and those condensing are roughly the same. The air isn't becoming more
humid and water is staying at the same level in the glass.

If you cooled the room the average speeds of the water molecules in both
the water and the air would slow. You'd see more water molecules in the
air moving slowly enough to stay in the water when they hit - they've
condensed. At the same time fewer molecules in the water are moving fast
enough to evaporate. The water level in the glass would increase.

If you warmed the room and the water the average speed of the molecules
would increase and more would evaporate until a new equilibrium is reached
between evaporation and condensation.
In the everyday atmosphere, if the air is cooled enough as it rises water
molecules slow down enough to attach to tiny particles in the air known as
condensation nuclei to begin forming fog or cloud drops. At ground level
they form dew drops on grass and objects such as cars.

For more on why saying condensation begins when the air can no longer hold
the water vapor in it is both wrong and can lead to wrong conclusions, see
Alistair B. Fraser's "Bad Clouds" page on his Bad Meteorology site on the
Pennsylvania State University Web site.

http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadClouds.html
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AlleyCat
2019-03-21 01:41:32 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:03:53 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...

Topic: Does Warm Air "Hold" More Water Vapor Than Cold Air?

And once Tommy figgers he can't refute his utter stupidity...
*Climate Change Is Making Springtime Weird. Vivaldi's Music Shows How."
"We say something YOU can't refute... out come the Internet articles from
bullshit alarmists sites."

Yawn.
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