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You Shuldda Seen the Wilderness Vanish In the Early Banglocene!
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Bret Cahill
2018-11-03 04:16:02 UTC
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Unum
2018-11-03 04:27:30 UTC
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Hey most stuff has died before. Okay, always due to an asteroid strike or
extensive volcanic eruptions or orbital variations, but that totally justifies
any harm we do to the environment today, right?
Chom Noamsky
2018-11-03 19:05:11 UTC
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Wind and solar farms are the biggest emerging threats to wildlife
populations and wildlife habitat.

It would take a wind farm the size of Scotland to power the UK while a
few reactors taking up less room that Buckingham Palace could do a
better job.

For the love of wilderness and wildlife, better start praying the future
is nookular.
Unum
2018-11-03 21:17:51 UTC
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https://newrepublic.com/article/151981/extinction-wilderness-untouched-lands-oceans-disappearing
Wind and solar farms are the biggest emerging threats to wildlife populations
and wildlife habitat.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
It would take a wind farm the size of Scotland to power the UK while a few
reactors taking up less room that Buckingham Palace could do a better job.
You mean like the incredibly over-budget and behind-schedule Hinkley Point C?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station

According to December 2017 estimates, Hinkley is being built for £20.3bn by
2025, to be paid over a 35 year period. It was reported that two firms
could already build wind turbines for £57.50 per megawatt hour for 2022-23,
while Hinkley's costs would mean £92.50 per megawatt hour, not generated for
at least two years later.
R Kym Horsell
2018-11-03 21:26:39 UTC
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Post by Bret Cahill
https://newrepublic.com/article/151981/extinction-wilderness-untouched-lands-oceans-disappearing
Wind and solar farms are the biggest emerging threats to wildlife populations
and wildlife habitat.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
It would take a wind farm the size of Scotland to power the UK while a few
reactors taking up less room that Buckingham Palace could do a better job.
You mean like the incredibly over-budget and behind-schedule Hinkley Point C?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station
According to December 2017 estimates, Hinkley is being built for lb20.3bn by
2025, to be paid over a 35 year period. It was reported that two firms
could already build wind turbines for lb57.50 per megawatt hour for 2022-23,
while Hinkley's costs would mean lb92.50 per megawatt hour, not generated for
at least two years later.
Seems like a bit of a waste for sommin where the fuel supply can't last
more than 50 years if anyone took it serious.
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Chom Noamsky
2018-11-04 18:00:30 UTC
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Post by Bret Cahill
https://newrepublic.com/article/151981/extinction-wilderness-untouched-lands-oceans-disappearing
Wind and solar farms are the biggest emerging threats to wildlife
populations and wildlife habitat.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
Post by Chom Noamsky
It would take a wind farm the size of Scotland to power the UK while a
few reactors taking up less room that Buckingham Palace could do a
better job.
You mean like the incredibly over-budget and behind-schedule Hinkley Point C?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station
According to December 2017 estimates, Hinkley is being built for £20.3bn by
2025, to be paid over a 35 year period. It was reported that two firms
could already build wind turbines for £57.50 per megawatt hour for 2022-23,
while Hinkley's costs would mean £92.50 per megawatt hour, not generated for
at least two years later.
And it will still be bargain compared to solar and wind. Plus all that
wildlife habitat saved is priceless.
Bret Cahill
2018-11-04 18:22:58 UTC
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Post by Unum
Post by Chom Noamsky
Post by Bret Cahill
https://newrepublic.com/article/151981/extinction-wilderness-untouched-lands-oceans-disappearing
Wind and solar farms are the biggest emerging threats to wildlife
populations and wildlife habitat.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
Post by Chom Noamsky
It would take a wind farm the size of Scotland to power the UK while a
few reactors taking up less room that Buckingham Palace could do a
better job.
You mean like the incredibly over-budget and behind-schedule Hinkley Point C?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station
According to December 2017 estimates, Hinkley is being built for £20.3bn by
2025, to be paid over a 35 year period. It was reported that two firms
could already build wind turbines for £57.50 per megawatt hour for 2022-23,
while Hinkley's costs would mean £92.50 per megawatt hour, not generated for
at least two years later.
And it will still be bargain compared to solar and wind. Plus all that
wildlife habitat saved is priceless.
The habitat destroyed by strip mining tar goop is so yuge it appears on Google earth even after zooming out 6 times.
Chom Noamsky
2018-11-04 19:08:26 UTC
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Post by Chom Noamsky
Post by Bret Cahill
https://newrepublic.com/article/151981/extinction-wilderness-untouched-lands-oceans-disappearing
Wind and solar farms are the biggest emerging threats to wildlife
populations and wildlife habitat.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
Post by Chom Noamsky
It would take a wind farm the size of Scotland to power the UK while a
few reactors taking up less room that Buckingham Palace could do a
better job.
You mean like the incredibly over-budget and behind-schedule Hinkley Point C?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station
According to December 2017 estimates, Hinkley is being built for £20.3bn by
2025, to be paid over a 35 year period. It was reported that two firms
could already build wind turbines for £57.50 per megawatt hour for 2022-23,
while Hinkley's costs would mean £92.50 per megawatt hour, not generated for
at least two years later.
And it will still be bargain compared to solar and wind. Plus all that
wildlife habitat saved is priceless.
The habitat destroyed by strip mining tar goop is so yuge it appears on Google earth even after zooming out 6 times.
The difference between a goop mine and a wind farm is the goop mine will
eventually get rehabilitated back to its former state.

Habitat lost to wind turbines and solar farms is habitat lost forever.
Bret Cahill
2018-11-04 20:28:21 UTC
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https://newrepublic.com/article/151981/extinction-wilderness-untouched-lands-oceans-disappearing
Wind and solar farms are the biggest emerging threats to wildlife
populations and wildlife habitat.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
Post by Chom Noamsky
It would take a wind farm the size of Scotland to power the UK while a
few reactors taking up less room that Buckingham Palace could do a
better job.
You mean like the incredibly over-budget and behind-schedule Hinkley Point C?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station
According to December 2017 estimates, Hinkley is being built for £20.3bn by
2025, to be paid over a 35 year period. It was reported that two firms
could already build wind turbines for £57.50 per megawatt hour for 2022-23,
while Hinkley's costs would mean £92.50 per megawatt hour, not generated for
at least two years later.
And it will still be bargain compared to solar and wind. Plus all that
wildlife habitat saved is priceless.
The habitat destroyed by strip mining tar goop is so yuge it appears on Google earth even after zooming out 6 times.
The difference between a goop mine and a wind farm is the goop mine will
eventually get rehabilitated back to its former state.
By then the sun will have burned out.
Post by Chom Noamsky
Habitat lost to wind turbines and solar farms is habitat lost forever.
Just put the solar PV on your roof. You'll get the same amount of pigeon droppings as w/o the PV.
Unum
2018-11-08 16:27:30 UTC
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Post by Bret Cahill
https://newrepublic.com/article/151981/extinction-wilderness-untouched-lands-oceans-disappearing
Wind and solar farms are the biggest emerging threats to wildlife
populations and wildlife habitat.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
Post by Chom Noamsky
It would take a wind farm the size of Scotland to power the UK while a
few reactors taking up less room that Buckingham Palace could do a
better job.
You mean like the incredibly over-budget and behind-schedule Hinkley Point C?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station
According to December 2017 estimates, Hinkley is being built for £20.3bn by
2025, to be paid over a 35 year period. It was reported that two firms
could already build wind turbines for £57.50 per megawatt hour for 2022-23,
while Hinkley's costs would mean £92.50 per megawatt hour, not generated for
at least two years later.
And it will still be bargain compared to solar and wind. Plus all that
wildlife habitat saved is priceless.
The habitat destroyed by strip mining tar goop is so yuge it appears on
Google earth even after zooming out 6 times.
The difference between a goop mine and a wind farm is the goop mine will
eventually get rehabilitated back to its former state.
In a few thousand years?

https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Oil_sands_surface_mining

"Currently, around 500 square kilometers of the oil sands deposit in Northern
Alberta is undergoing surface mining"

"the complete restoration of wetlands may never occur and the boreal forest
cannot be restored to its native state following the closure of a mine."
Post by Chom Noamsky
Habitat lost to wind turbines and solar farms is habitat lost forever.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
Mr Posting Robot
2018-11-08 16:44:20 UTC
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Post by Bret Cahill
https://newrepublic.com/article/151981/extinction-wilderness-untouched-lands-oceans-disappearing
Wind and solar farms are the biggest emerging threats to wildlife
populations and wildlife habitat.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
Post by Chom Noamsky
It would take a wind farm the size of Scotland to power the UK while a
few reactors taking up less room that Buckingham Palace could do a
better job.
You mean like the incredibly over-budget and behind-schedule Hinkley Point C?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station
According to December 2017 estimates, Hinkley is being built for lb20.3bn by
2025, to be paid over a 35 year period. It was reported that two firms
could already build wind turbines for lb57.50 per megawatt hour for 2022-23,
while Hinkley's costs would mean lb92.50 per megawatt hour, not generated
for
at least two years later.
And it will still be bargain compared to solar and wind. Plus all that
wildlife habitat saved is priceless.
The habitat destroyed by strip mining tar goop is so yuge it appears on
Google earth even after zooming out 6 times.
The difference between a goop mine and a wind farm is the goop mine will
eventually get rehabilitated back to its former state.
In a few thousand years?
https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Oil_sands_surface_mining
"Currently, around 500 square kilometers of the oil sands deposit in Northern
Alberta is undergoing surface mining"
"the complete restoration of wetlands may never occur and the boreal forest
cannot be restored to its native state following the closure of a mine."
Post by Chom Noamsky
Habitat lost to wind turbines and solar farms is habitat lost forever.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
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Unum
2018-11-08 16:20:14 UTC
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https://newrepublic.com/article/151981/extinction-wilderness-untouched-lands-oceans-disappearing
Wind and solar farms are the biggest emerging threats to wildlife
populations and wildlife habitat.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
Post by Chom Noamsky
It would take a wind farm the size of Scotland to power the UK while a few
reactors taking up less room that Buckingham Palace could do a better job.
You mean like the incredibly over-budget and behind-schedule Hinkley Point C?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station
According to December 2017 estimates, Hinkley is being built for £20.3bn by
2025, to be paid over a 35 year period. It was reported that two firms
could already build wind turbines for £57.50 per megawatt hour for 2022-23,
while Hinkley's costs would mean £92.50 per megawatt hour, not generated for
at least two years later.
And it will still be bargain compared to solar and wind. Plus all that
wildlife habitat saved is priceless.
Electricity at £92.50 per megawatt hour is a bargain? Hilarious!
Chom Noamsky
2018-11-08 18:24:22 UTC
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https://newrepublic.com/article/151981/extinction-wilderness-untouched-lands-oceans-disappearing
Wind and solar farms are the biggest emerging threats to wildlife
populations and wildlife habitat.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
Post by Chom Noamsky
It would take a wind farm the size of Scotland to power the UK while
a few reactors taking up less room that Buckingham Palace could do a
better job.
You mean like the incredibly over-budget and behind-schedule Hinkley Point C?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station
According to December 2017 estimates, Hinkley is being built for £20.3bn by
2025, to be paid over a 35 year period. It was reported that two firms
could already build wind turbines for £57.50 per megawatt hour for 2022-23,
while Hinkley's costs would mean £92.50 per megawatt hour, not generated for
at least two years later.
And it will still be bargain compared to solar and wind. Plus all that
wildlife habitat saved is priceless.
Electricity at £92.50 per megawatt hour is a bargain? Hilarious!
Aside from the fact that the current cost of nuclear is the direct
result of mindlessly fierce and irrational greenie opposition, what
really matters is ERoEI.

Current designs yield an ERoEI of more than a hundred. Future molten
salt/molten lead reactors are designed to yield an ERoEI of up to 2,000.

When storage is added to wind and solar, the ERoEI is so low that
library books would be a more economical fuel.
Unum
2018-11-10 05:11:29 UTC
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Wind and solar farms are the biggest emerging threats to wildlife
populations and wildlife habitat.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
Post by Chom Noamsky
It would take a wind farm the size of Scotland to power the UK while a
few reactors taking up less room that Buckingham Palace could do a better
job.
You mean like the incredibly over-budget and behind-schedule Hinkley Point C?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station
According to December 2017 estimates, Hinkley is being built for £20.3bn by
2025, to be paid over a 35 year period. It was reported that two firms
could already build wind turbines for £57.50 per megawatt hour for 2022-23,
while Hinkley's costs would mean £92.50 per megawatt hour, not generated for
at least two years later.
And it will still be bargain compared to solar and wind. Plus all that
wildlife habitat saved is priceless.
Electricity at £92.50 per megawatt hour is a bargain? Hilarious!
Aside from the fact that the current cost of nuclear is the direct result of
mindlessly fierce and irrational greenie opposition, what really matters is
ERoEI.
No cite means chumpsky is lying as usual.
Current designs yield an ERoEI of more than a hundred.  Future molten
salt/molten lead reactors are designed to yield an ERoEI of up to 2,000.
All kinds of things could happen but there's no evidence that any
of it will for at least 10 years. Meanwhile wind and solar beat
the stuffing out of nuclear right now.
Bret Cahill
2018-11-10 16:53:24 UTC
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Electricity at £92.50 per megawatt hour is a bargain? Hilarious!
Aside from the fact that the current cost of nuclear is the direct
result of
the cost of stainless steel

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