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Big Oil Should Be Worried About Amazon’s Battery Play
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Unum
2018-10-09 00:28:03 UTC
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While Amazon helping to get new plugs put into garages may not scream
revolution, it should still worry the likes of Exxon Mobil Corp. The oil
industry has long been more concerned with generating supply than encouraging
demand—why bother, when drivers had no alternative? The hassle of charging has
long been one of the things holding back the electrical vehicle market.
Amazon’s entry will make that a whole lot easier, potentially representing a
major threat in oil’s biggest market.

The fossil fuel industry should be worried about a company such as Amazon
encroaching on its territory. Back in the summer of 2008, three of the world’s
five most valuable companies produced oil and gas. Exxon was No. 1. Today,
four years after a global collapse in oil prices, Big Tech dominates and Exxon
struggles to stay in the top 10.

Spending on upstream oil and gas development has declined by $308 billion
since 2014. Why invest so much in reserves if demand for oil might falter?

Ten years ago, the phrase “peak oil” referred to supply. Today it’s more often
used in the context of peak demand—a much less cheery prospect for the fossil
fuel industry.
Bret Cahill
2018-10-09 04:13:44 UTC
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-08/big-oil-should-be-worried-about-amazon-s-battery-play
While Amazon helping to get new plugs put into garages may not scream
revolution, it should still worry the likes of Exxon Mobil Corp.
It's the camel's nose and MUST BE STOPPED!
Post by Unum
The oil
industry has long been more concerned with generating supply than encouraging
demand—why bother, when drivers had no alternative? The hassle of charging has
long been one of the things holding back the electrical vehicle market.
Amazon’s entry will make that a whole lot easier, potentially representing a
major threat in oil’s biggest market.
Amazon is part of the consphiraChEEEEEE.
Post by Unum
The fossil fuel industry should be worried about a company such as Amazon
encroaching on its territory. Back in the summer of 2008, three of the world’s
five most valuable companies produced oil and gas. Exxon was No. 1. Today,
four years after a global collapse in oil prices, Big Tech dominates and Exxon
struggles to stay in the top 10.
There is a trillion dollar start up looking at this opportunity.

Believe me, you don't want to be invested in tar goop when TSHTF.


Bret Cahill
John Smith
2018-10-10 20:41:12 UTC
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-08/big-oil-should-be-worried-about-amazon-s-battery-play
While Amazon helping to get new plugs put into garages may not scream
revolution, it should still worry the likes of Exxon Mobil Corp.
It's the camel's nose and MUST BE STOPPED!
https://www.realtor.com/advice/home-improvement/installing-electric-vehicle-charger/

For a Level 1 charger, the cost of the station will be $300 to $600,
with parts and labor costing $1,000 to $1,700, according to HomeAdvisor.
A Level 2 charger will cost a bit more: The station will cost roughly
$500 to $700, and the parts and labor will likely cost $1,200 to $2,000.
The installation process could cost more if your main point of charging
will require major electrical upgrades.
m***@yahoo.com
2018-10-10 14:50:11 UTC
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Ten years ago, the phrase “peak oil” referred to supply. Today it’s more often
used in the context of peak demand—a much less cheery prospect for the fossil
fuel industry.
Because storage capability is small compared to consumption, supply and demand are always nearly in balance.

The price adjusts to maintain this balance.

Oil consumption (supply and demand) are both continuing to rise.

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John Smith
2018-10-10 20:26:43 UTC
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-08/big-oil-should-be-worried-about-amazon-s-battery-play
While Amazon helping to get new plugs put into garages may not scream
revolution, it should still worry the likes of Exxon Mobil Corp. The oil
industry has long been more concerned with generating supply than encouraging
demand—why bother, when drivers had no alternative? The hassle of charging has
long been one of the things holding back the electrical vehicle market.
Amazon’s entry will make that a whole lot easier, potentially representing a
major threat in oil’s biggest market.
The fossil fuel industry should be worried about a company such as Amazon
encroaching on its territory. Back in the summer of 2008, three of the world’s
five most valuable companies produced oil and gas. Exxon was No. 1. Today,
four years after a global collapse in oil prices, Big Tech dominates and Exxon
struggles to stay in the top 10.
since 2014. Why invest so much in reserves if demand for oil might falter?
Ten years ago, the phrase “peak oil” referred to supply. Today it’s more often
used in the context of peak demand—a much less cheery prospect for the fossil
fuel industry.
https://www.realtor.com/advice/home-improvement/installing-electric-vehicle-charger/

For a Level 1 charger, the cost of the station will be $300 to $600,
with parts and labor costing $1,000 to $1,700, according to HomeAdvisor.
A Level 2 charger will cost a bit more: The station will cost roughly
$500 to $700, and the parts and labor will likely cost $1,200 to $2,000.
The installation process could cost more if your main point of charging
will require major electrical upgrades.
John Smith
2018-10-10 21:11:47 UTC
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Post by Unum
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-08/big-oil-should-be-worried-about-amazon-s-battery-play
While Amazon helping to get new plugs put into garages may not scream
revolution, it should still worry the likes of Exxon Mobil Corp. The oil
industry has long been more concerned with generating supply than encouraging
demand—why bother, when drivers had no alternative? The hassle of charging has
long been one of the things holding back the electrical vehicle market.
Amazon’s entry will make that a whole lot easier, potentially representing a
major threat in oil’s biggest market.
The fossil fuel industry should be worried about a company such as Amazon
encroaching on its territory. Back in the summer of 2008, three of the world’s
five most valuable companies produced oil and gas. Exxon was No. 1. Today,
four years after a global collapse in oil prices, Big Tech dominates and Exxon
struggles to stay in the top 10.
since 2014. Why invest so much in reserves if demand for oil might falter?
Ten years ago, the phrase “peak oil” referred to supply. Today it’s more often
used in the context of peak demand—a much less cheery prospect for the fossil
fuel industry.
https://www.realtor.com/advice/home-improvement/installing-electric-vehicle-charger/
For a Level 1 charger, the cost of the station will be $300 to $600,
with parts and labor costing $1,000 to $1,700, according to
HomeAdvisor. A Level 2 charger will cost a bit more: The station will
cost roughly $500 to $700, and the parts and labor will likely cost
$1,200 to $2,000. The installation process could cost more if your
main point of charging will require major electrical upgrades.
So what?
Must be rich.

75K$ electric car, 2k$ charger, how many federal subsidies and tax
credits for those please?
Unum
2018-10-11 00:23:44 UTC
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-08/big-oil-should-be-worried-about-amazon-s-battery-play
While Amazon helping to get new plugs put into garages may not scream
revolution, it should still worry the likes of Exxon Mobil Corp. The oil
industry has long been more concerned with generating supply than encouraging
demand—why bother, when drivers had no alternative? The hassle of charging has
long been one of the things holding back the electrical vehicle market.
Amazon’s entry will make that a whole lot easier, potentially representing a
major threat in oil’s biggest market.
The fossil fuel industry should be worried about a company such as Amazon
encroaching on its territory. Back in the summer of 2008, three of the world’s
five most valuable companies produced oil and gas. Exxon was No. 1. Today,
four years after a global collapse in oil prices, Big Tech dominates and Exxon
struggles to stay in the top 10.
since 2014. Why invest so much in reserves if demand for oil might falter?
Ten years ago, the phrase “peak oil” referred to supply. Today it’s more often
used in the context of peak demand—a much less cheery prospect for the fossil
fuel industry.
https://www.realtor.com/advice/home-improvement/installing-electric-vehicle-charger/
For a Level 1 charger, the cost of the station will be $300 to $600, with
parts and labor costing $1,000 to $1,700, according to HomeAdvisor. A Level
2 charger will cost a bit more: The station will cost roughly $500 to $700,
and the parts and labor will likely cost $1,200 to $2,000. The installation
process could cost more if your main point of charging will require major
electrical upgrades.
So what?
Must be rich.
75K$ electric car, 2k$ charger, how many federal subsidies and tax credits for
those please?
Not very well informed are you.

The Nissan Leaf starts at about $30k, and the Chevy Bolt starts
at around $37k. The Prius starts at $24k. You can charge them all
overnight with a Level 1 charger.

https://www.energysage.com/electric-vehicles/costs-and-benefits-evs/evs-vs-fossil-fuel-vehicles/

The average cost to operate an EV in the United States is $485 per year, while
the average for a gasoline-powered vehicle is $1,117.

vehicle maintenance costs can stack up over time. With ICEs, engine
maintenance can be a huge money sink, especially as cars age. Changing the
engine oil, coolant, transmission fluid, and belts can add up in value over
time. By comparison, electric cars don’t have internal combustion engines, so
these costs disappear.
Bret Cahill
2018-10-11 03:25:21 UTC
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Must be rich.
Don't be envious of Jeff Bezos just because he works for a living.
R Kym Horsell
2018-10-10 21:15:56 UTC
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For a Level 1 charger, the cost of the station will be $300 to $600, with
parts and labor costing $1,000 to $1,700, according to HomeAdvisor. A Level 2
charger will cost a bit more: The station will cost roughly $500 to $700, and
the parts and labor will likely cost $1,200 to $2,000. The installation
process could cost more if your main point of charging will require major
electrical upgrades.
So what?
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Bret Cahill
2018-10-11 03:23:21 UTC
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New construction just collapsed in front of me in Panama City Beach from #hurricanemichael!!! It is going bad fast! pic.twitter.com/CG5R8jcUuf
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