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rain rain rain dammit stop flooding my town
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k***@gmail.com
2024-09-06 04:44:05 UTC
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The local city spent the last week digging up the streets on both
sides of my property to repair the drains. It seems the teams were
going through the whole region to catch up on the backlogs of sewers
blocked with branches and dead animals. A couple times I think they
dug up the street to put in larger diameter pipes.
It's been raining cats and dogs for a few weeks now. Every other day
there's a flood emergency declared somewhere on the AUS east coast or
down in TAS.
At the start of the year we were seeing local streets flooded with 6"
of water and the water hanging around for a couple days after the
deluge because the drains couldn't handle it.
(Also note I'm located up on a bit of a hill about 100m away and 10m
above the local crick which is itself about 100m wide these days).
Last week we had the spectacle of even the sidewalks flooded with 6" of water.
The amount of mud I've dug out of my partly-below-yard-level patio in
the past few months must be in the 100s of kg now. Mostly you have to
chuck it in the general garbage because it's so full of dead rats,
bats and cats as well as random putrid animal matter you just can't
put it on the garden for reasons of general health.

While the local data is a bit hard to come by, the GHCN now apparently
moved from the NOAA to NASA's management (and a totally different
format of course), is still being updated pretty quickly. New data
downloaded in the past few days shows PRECIP entries right up to the
end of Aug.

From which -- for 1000s of stations located on the Gulf coast --
we can ask the question:
for each station, of the top10% rainiest days for that station,
which years did they occur in?

A plot is here: <kym.massbus.org/graphs/evcount.gif>.

Only stations that had rainfall data for 2022-2024 as well as at least
50 years of prior data were included in the numbers.

We can see the relevant trend.



Flash flood threat continues across the Southeast
MSN, 06 Sep 2024 0:46Z
As a tropical rainstorm moves east, parts of the Gulf Coast and Southeast
can expect days of flooding rain.

Street flooding in Tampa
Biloxi News Events, 05 Sep 2024 23:48Z

Invest 90-L bringing heavy rain, flood threat to New Orleans
WDSU, 05 Sep 2024 22:46Z

Florida Map Shows Rainfall Estimates as Storm Approaches
Newsweek, 05 Sep 2024 21:47Z
Meteorologists began warning Floridians about the "considerable" flash
flooding threat earlier this week.


--
[Transparent Mice!]
Common food dye found to make skin and muscle temporarily transparent
The Guardian, 05 Sep 2024 19:28Z

[Plant Food!]
Extreme weather impacts agriculture in Hungary
FreshPlaza, 05 Sep 2024 11:42Z
This summer, Europe's agriculture faced challenges due to extreme weather
conditions, leading to crop failures and an increase in food prices.

Phoenix set to break record for 110-degree days as extreme heat plagues West
Coast
ABC, 25m
Extreme late-season heat is plaguing the West Coast from Los Angeles to
Seattle with heat alerts issued for more than 65 mn Americans across
six states

`Detrimental impact': Farmers push back on climate report
AFR, 05 Sep 2024 08:35Z
The Climate Change Authority review sparked criticism from the agricultural
sector over a call for large-scale forestation.

Right-Wing Influencers Deny Knowledge of Russian Funding
Rolling Stone, 05 Sep 2024 14:48Z

Blaze fires contributor linked to alleged Russian operation
Semafor, 05 Sep 2024 16:48Z

In 2023, Earth experienced its hottest year on record, and massive floods,
wildfires, and other climate-related disasters affected mns of people
around the world. Meanwhile, rapid and worrisome developments in the life
sciences and other disruptive technologies accelerated, while govts
made only feeble efforts to control them. [...]
Today, we once again set the Doomsday Clock at 90 seconds to midnight
because humanity continues to face an unprecedented level of danger.
Our decision should not be taken as a sign that the international
security situation has eased. Instead, leaders and citizens around the
world should take this statement as a stark warning and respond
urgently, as if today were the most dangerous moment in modern history.
Because it may well be.
-- Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, 23 Jan 2024
[At 1 min to midnight pushing the apple cart over seems rational].

Finally, we suggest that 2024 is likely to be off the chart as the
warmest year on record. Without inside information, that would be a
dangerous prediction, but we proffer it because it is unlikely that
the current La Nina will continue a fourth year. Even a little futz of
an El Nino - like the tropical warming in 2018-19, which barely
qualified as an El Nino - should be sufficient for record global
temperature. A classical, strong El Nino in 2023-24 could push global
temperature to about +1.5°C relative to the 1880-1920 mean, which is
our estimate of preindustrial temperature.
-- J Hansen et al, newsletter 23 Sep 2022

Harris will beat Trump, says election prediction legend Allan Lichtman
CNBC, 05 Sep 2024 16:49Z
[Predicted last 9 out of 10 correct. But past performance is no
indicator future performance ;) ].

Why flowers blooming all year round may be cause for concern
ABC News, 05 Sep 2024 23:31Z
A native flower farmer has not had her usual winter break from
picking this year as unseasonably warm weather brings blooms
through the usually quiet months.
[For a few years my nasturtiums have flowered almost every couple wks.
The various sap-sucking birds seem to enjoy that. But some of the
fruit trees are starting to do the same and the plums are now looking
worn out with the effort and looks like the apricots will be next to
die back].

[Snowmaggedon!]
This year's ski season ended far earlier than usual, prompting soul-searching
among operators
ABC News, 05 Sep 2024 20:38Z
Tourism operators and the broader Snowy Mountains region are
looking to summer tourism options as they face the prospect of
warmer winters and shorter ski seasons.

China to launch Mars sample return mission in 2028, will follow planetary
protection guidelines
SpaceNews, 05 Sep 2024 13:30Z

[BepiColombo:]
Closest Flyby of Mercury Reveals the Planet's Mysterious Craters in
Unprecedented Detail
Gizmodo, 03 Sep 2024

Reclusive tribe armed with bows and arrows kills loggers allegedly
encroaching on their land in Peru, group says
CBS News, 05 Sep 2024 19:25Z

'3,000 veterans dead': This grieving mother has led the fight for all of them
ABC News, 05 Sep 2024 18:46Z
The governor-general will soon receive the final report of the
Royal Commission into Defence and Veterans Suicide. Grieving
families are hoping it will lead to lasting change.

Mediterranean, it's a broth! Severe weather in many regions
Meteo Giornale, 05 Sep 2024 12:42Z
The Mediterranean is experiencing a significant increase in extreme weather
phenomena, making it one of the main global centers of atmospheric turbulence.

US Sen. Peter Welch celebrates 60th anniversary of landmark Wilderness Act
Brattleboro Reformer, 05 Sep 2024 16:02Z
Vt., is celebrating this week's 60th anniversary of President Lyndon B.
Johnson signing the Wilderness Act of 1964, ...
JTEM
2024-09-06 11:29:11 UTC
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Post by k***@gmail.com
The local city spent the last week digging up the streets on both
sides of my property to repair the drains.
Convection Storms are caused by heat. Rain is not.

"Weather" occurs at what is called a "Front." This
is where warm air and cool air meet.

You need both for precipitation.

If it's just "Warm" you don't get precipitation, if
it's just "Cool" you don't get precipitation. Yet
nothing you are saying makes the least bit of sense
UNLESS precipitation is 100% dependent on it being hot.

Also: You are speaking of the weather, not climate.

It's never supposed to be "The same" all the time.
Tomorrow isn't a carbon copy of today, next year won't
be a carbon copy of this year. It gets warm. It gets
cold. Brainwashed idiots think both are proof of
Gwobull Warbling: "It's so hot that it's cold!"
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AlleyCat
2024-09-06 13:24:58 UTC
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Rain Rain Rain Dimmit Stop Flooding My Town
Where there is a chance of rain, there will be more.

Thank you, Hunga Tonga Hunga Ha'pai!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGb8WPGX0AAcwa_?format=png&name=large

https://i.imgur.com/KAeE1ow.mp4

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Warming too!

Hunga Tonga Volcano: Impact on Record Warming

By Javier Vinós

The climate event of 2023 was truly exceptional, but the prevailing catastrophism about climate change
hinders its proper scientific analysis. I present arguments that support the view that we are facing an
extraordinary and extremely rare natural event in climate history.

1. Off-scale warming

Since the planet has been warming for 200 years, and our global records are even more recent, every few years
a new warmest year in history is recorded. Despite all the publicity given each time it happens, it would
really be news if it didn't happen, as it did between 1998 and 2014, a period popularly known as the pause.

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Figure 1. Berkeley Earth temperature anomaly

Since 1980, 13 years have broken the temperature record. So, what is so special about the 2023 record and the
expected 2024 record? For starters, 2023 broke the record by the largest margin in records, 0.17°C. This may
not sound like much, but if all records were by this margin, we would go from +1.5°C to +2°C in just 10
years, and reach +3°C 20 years later.

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Figure 2. Berkeley Earth 2023 temperature anomaly

Moreover, to produce so much warming, almost the entire globe experienced above-average warming. 2023 was a
year of real global warming, although most of the warming occurred in the Northern Hemisphere.

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Figure 3. 2023 global surface temperature anomaly over pre-industrial baseline in six datasets.

As a result, one of the major databases, Berkeley Earth, has exceeded the +1.5°C limit for a full year for
the first time, and 2024 promises another temperature record. Crossing the dangerous warming threshold so
early has caused some confusion, exacerbated by the fact that not much difference seems to be noticeable.
Even Arctic ice remains above the average of the last decade. And if we've already crossed the line and the
climate is beyond repair, what's the point of trying?

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Figure 4. Global temperature calculation by Copernicus system.

But the authorities have been quick to point out that even if we are above +1.5°C in 2023 or 2024, we will
not have crossed the threshold. There is a catch. The global temperature is not the temperature of one month
or one year, but the temperature of the linear trend of the last 30 years, which according to the European
Copernicus system is +1.28°C and is expected to exceed +1.5°C in 10 years.

2. Uncharted territory

In June 2023, the North Atlantic experienced a heat wave unprecedented in 40 years, with temperatures 5°C
warmer than usual. Carlo Buontempo, the director of Copernicus, said the world was "entering uncharted
territory. We have never seen anything like this in our life". To understand what has puzzled scientists so
much, it is necessary to look at the evolution of the temperature of the Earth's oceans throughout the year
since 1979.

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Figure 5. 60°N-60°S global ocean surface temperature by year since 1979.

On average, the Earth's oceans are warmest in February-March and coldest in October-November, with an
intermediate maximum in August. This is an annual cycle caused by the tilt of the Earth's axis, the
arrangement of the continents, and seasonal changes in atmospheric circulation and albedo. A cycle that has
never been broken as long as measurements have been kept until 2023. This year shows an accentuated warming
since January, leading to daily temperature records since the beginning of April. But what is absolutely
astonishing is that the ocean continued to warm in June and July and reached an annual maximum in August,
something that has never happened before. And the warming through August is staggering, about 0.33°C above
the 2016 record, which is huge for the ocean. After that, the annual cycle begins to behave normally, but at
a much higher temperature, which is slowly falling. In June 2024, after 415 days of record temperatures, the
ocean is still about 0.2°C warmer than it should be.

Buontempo means good weather in English, and his phrase "we have entered uncharted territory" has become very
popular. However, it assumes that we have reached and will remain in this situation, whereas the data suggest
that this is a one-off anomaly with diminishing effects. For now, it tells us that nothing dramatic is
happening as we approach the politically established warming threshold.

Gavin Schmidt, director of NASA's climate monitoring institute, also uses the expression "uncharted
territory" when he explains that the 2023 anomaly worries scientists, saying that climate models cannot
explain why the planet's temperature suddenly spiked in 2023. Not only was the temperature anomaly much
larger than expected, but it occurred months before the onset of El Nino. In his own words: "The 2023
temperature anomaly has come out of the blue, revealing an unprecedented knowledge gap perhaps for the first
time since about 40 years ago. It could imply that a warming planet is already fundamentally altering how the
climate system operates, much sooner than scientists had anticipated." According to Gavin, we could have
broken the climate and the models would no longer work.

Instead of abandoning science for wild speculation let's examine the possible factors responsible for the
abrupt warming that Gavin Schmidt dismisses by saying they could explain at most a few hundredths of a
degree, for which he has little evidence.

3. The little boy is innocent

El Nino is unlikely to be responsible for the simple reason that such abrupt global warming is unprecedented
in our records, and El Nino has many precedents. In addition, El Nino warms a specific region of the
equatorial Pacific and primarily affects the Pacific, while the "2023 event" warmed parts of the North
Atlantic to an extraordinary degree. This does not prevent scientists like Jan Esper and Ulf Büntgen from
saying that 2023 is consistent with a greenhouse gas-induced warming trend amplified by an El Nino. They
clearly did not examine the data before writing this, nor did the reviewers of their Nature paper.

The relationship between the temperature of the equatorial Pacific and that of the global ocean during an El
Nino is shown in the figure below.

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Figure 6. Nino 3.4 temperature anomaly (red) and detrended satellite global ocean temperature anomaly
(black).

The temperature anomaly in the Pacific Nino 3.4 region shows the very strong Ninos of 1983, 1998, and 2016,
and the strong Ninos of 1988, 1992, 2009, and 2024. The years correspond to the month of January during the
event. When the satellite global ocean temperature anomaly is plotted without its long-term trend, we observe
a very close correspondence. The long-term trend responds to other causes, but the temperature variations
correspond to the export of heat from the equatorial Pacific to the rest of the globe.

We also observe two things. The first is that the correspondence fails in two periods, in 1992 as a result of
the Pinatubo eruption a year earlier, and in 2024. The second observation is that in all strong or very
strong Ninos, the source of the heat, the equatorial Pacific, warms earlier and warms more or as much in
relative terms as the global ocean warms later. This does not happen in the 2024 El Nino. The warming is
simultaneous and greater than it should be outside the equatorial Pacific.

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Figure 7. Nino 3.4 temperature anomaly (red) and detrended ERSST PDO (blue).

The Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) is often described as a long-lived pattern of climate variability
similar to El Nino in the North Pacific. And this is evident when we compare the two after removing a long-
term trend that the PDO should not have. The agreement is very strong, and again we see a significant anomaly
in 1991 due to the Pinatubo eruption. But even more important is the anomaly in 2023-24, when the PDO shows
extraordinarily small changes and remains negative when it should be positive.

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Figure 8. During the 2023 event the North Pacific stayed in negative PDO conditions, while the equatorial
Pacific displayed El Nino conditions.

To understand this response, one must consider that the warm phase of the PDO requires the Northwest Pacific
to be cold, but as we have shown above, the Northwest Pacific was very warm in 2023, causing the PDO to
remain in a cold phase. A negative phase of the PDO during El Nino is unprecedented and categorically rules
out El Nino as the cause of the abrupt warming that has puzzled scientists. In fact, it is possible that the
ocean warming that began in March 2023 was the cause of the 2024 El Nino by weakening the trade winds in the
equatorial Pacific.

I'd like to thank Charles May for bringing this data to my attention and for doing such an excellent job
analyzing it each month.

4. Sulfate aerosols are not responsible

Another possibility that is under consideration is the reduction of sulfate aerosols as a result of the
change in marine fuel regulations in 2020.

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Figure 9. Global sulfur emissions for the past 64 years

The reduction in sulfur emissions since the late 1970s is considered a significant warming factor by reducing
emissions of shortwave radiation reflected from the atmosphere. However, the reduction in sulfur dioxide
emissions from marine fuels since 2020 is estimated at 14% of total emissions.

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Figure 10. Model-calculated global temperature effect of an 80% reduction (red curve) in marine fuel sulfur
content from pre-2020 situation (blue curve), and decadal mean difference (green bars).

A recent study, still under peer review, used a climate model to calculate that sulfur emission reductions
from 2020 could cause global warming of 0.02°C in the first decade. Since the warming in 2023 was 10 times
greater, it is difficult to believe that emissions reductions since 2020 could have been a major factor in
the abrupt warming in 2023.

In the figure, the blue curve is the global warming predicted with the previously used marine fuel, and the
red curve is the one predicted with the fuel with 80% less sulfur. The difference between the two curves for
the decade 2020-30 is the green bar of 0.02°C.

5. CO2 increase didn't do it

The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has increased slightly by about 2.5 parts per million in 2023.

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Figure 11. Monthly (red) and 12-month (black) CO2 levels at Mauna Loa.

The increase from 418.5 to 421 ppm represents an increase of 0.6% and is similar to the increase that has
occurred each year for the past several decades. Nothing in our knowledge of the effect of CO2 increases on
climate suggests that such a small increase could have led to such a large and abrupt warming. There is no
study to suggest that the gradual increase in CO2 could lead to a sudden increase in climate variability.
Therefore, all model predictions are long-term and affect the statistics of weather phenomena. The proof is
that scientists and models cannot explain what happened in 2023.

6. Tonga volcano prime suspect

Just over a year before the abrupt warming, in January 2022, an extremely unusual volcanic eruption took
place in Tonga. How unusual? It was an eruption of VEI 5 explosivity, capable of reaching the stratosphere,
which occurs on average every 10 years.

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Figure 12. Time and cone elevation of VEI =5 volcanic eruptions of the past 200 years, their distribution by
altitude (yellow bars), and the suggested depth for a submarine eruption capable of projecting a large amount
of water to the stratosphere (red line).

There have been a number of eruptions with VEI 5 or higher in the last 200 years, although not all of them
have affected the global climate. This figure shows with dots the date they occurred and the elevation at
which the volcanic cone was located. The yellow bars show the distribution of eruptions in 500 m elevation
bins. The Tonga eruption was a submarine explosion at very shallow depths, about 150 m below the sea surface.
It ejected 150 million tons of water into the stratosphere.

In our 200 years of records there is only one other submarine eruption with VEI 5, which occurred in 1924 off
the Japanese island of Iriomote at a depth of 200 m and did not affect the atmosphere. Only surface effects
were observed. NASA scientists believe that the Tonga explosion occurred at the right depth to project a lot
of water into the stratosphere. This depth is indicated by the red line. So, the Tonga eruption is a once in
200-year event, probably less than once in a millennium. Science was very lucky. We are not so lucky.

We know that strong volcanic eruptions, capable of reaching the stratosphere, can have a very strong effect
on the climate for a few years, and that this effect can be delayed by more than a year. The eruption of
Mount Tambora in April 1815 had a global effect on the climate, but it took 15 months for the effect to
develop, during the year without a summer of 1816. These delayed effects coincided with the appearance of a
veil of sulfate aerosols in the Northern Hemisphere atmosphere due to seasonal changes in the global
stratospheric circulation.

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Figure 13. Stratospheric water vapor anomaly at 45°N.

In this image on the vertical axis, we observe the water vapor anomaly in the stratosphere between 15 and 40
km altitude with ocher tones for negative values and greenish for positive ones. The measurement takes place
at 45° latitude in the northern hemisphere. On the horizontal axis is the date, and we can see that the large
anomaly created by the Tonga eruption does not appear in the Northern Hemisphere until one year later, in
2023, when the warming occurred. Thus, there are dynamical events in the stratosphere that have the
appropriate time lag to coincide with the abrupt warming in 2023.

Because the Tonga eruption is unprecedented, there is much about its effects that we do not understand. But
we do know that the planetary greenhouse effect is very sensitive to changes in stratospheric water vapor
because, unlike the troposphere, the stratosphere is very dry and far from greenhouse saturation.

As a group of scientists showed in 2010, the effect of changes in stratospheric water vapor is so important
that the warming between 2000 and 2009 was reduced by 25% because it decreased by 10%. And after the Tonga
eruption, it increased by 10% because of the 150 million tons of water released into the stratosphere, so we
could have experienced much of the warming of an entire decade in a single year.

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Figure 14. Global water vapor anomaly above 68hPa.

The stratosphere has already begun to dry out again, but it is a slow process that will take many years. In
2023 only 20 million tons of water returned to the troposphere, 13%.

7. Dismissing natural warming

On the one hand, we have an absolutely unprecedented abrupt warming that the models cannot explain and that
has scientists scratching their heads. Such anomalous warming cannot logically respond to the usual suspects,
El Nino, reduced sulfur emissions, or increased CO2, which have been going on for many decades.

On the other hand, we have an absolutely unprecedented volcanic eruption, the effects of which we cannot
know, but which, according to what we know about the greenhouse effect, should cause significant and abrupt
warming.

Of course, we cannot conclude that the warming was caused by the volcano, but it is clear that it is by far
the most likely suspect, and any other candidate should have to demonstrate its ability to act abruptly with
such magnitude before being seriously considered.

So why do scientists like Gavin Schmidt argue, without evidence or knowledge, that the Tonga volcano could
not have been responsible? If the effect were cooling, the volcano would be blamed without a second's
hesitation, but significant natural warming undermines the message that warming is the fault of our
emissions.
Chris Ahlstrom
2024-09-06 14:41:43 UTC
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<shitsnip>
One can go to NOAA rather than this joker.

In the mean-time, FILTER ON!
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JTEM
2024-09-06 14:59:51 UTC
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Post by Chris Ahlstrom
One can go
One? Ten or more sailors had at your mom in one go!

Probably did her up the ass -- the hole that smelled
nicer.
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Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-09-06 15:13:24 UTC
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FILTER ON!
Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Bill Flett/kami and a
few dozen other socks wrote:

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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-09-06 15:24:20 UTC
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Post by Chris Ahlstrom
this joker.
Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Bill Flett/kami and a
few dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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AlleyCat
2024-09-06 13:24:59 UTC
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rain rain rain dammit stop flooding my town
In 2022 Hunga-Tonga submarine volcano erupted and boiled in the atmosphere 150M cubic metres of water (like 5
million tanker trucks) which is the main greenhouse gas Rising temp by .4C

Plus, a LOT of rain to fall, but you don't know it because it couldn't be human's fault... nooooo!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTRnUUeWwAAsBi6?format=jpg&name=large

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Thank you, Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai for the warming.
Since water vapour can be as high as 100 times more than CO2, THAT is what is influencing our temperature AND
near record rain and snowfalls we're seeing. But, there's no money in telling the truth, is there?

UAH Satellite temp latest is up. The possible warming pulse from the Hunga Tonga eruption water vapour
injection into the stratosphere event seems to be persisting. May have peaked. Will be interesting to see how
long it lasts. We'll see.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWgWw3NXsAAYJU7?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

=====

Can you pick out when the water vapor was spewed into the stratosphere by Hunga Tonga?

This upcoming winter will finally see the "Full Load" of impacts from that gargantuan deposit of ocean water
20 to 50 miles up.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWwXo6oW8AA-jj2?format=jpg&name=medium

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This is one of the most impressive hydromagmatic eruptions I've seen of the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai. The
explosion comprises basaltic rock fragments and steam, and can reach substantial heights.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1477685926625222657/pu/vid/1280x720/JsIcvNxA2V1MtkrE.mp4?tag=12

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Yes, very disappointing, here in the east Midlands. We've had a decent summer, pretty dry, plenty of sun and
only a couple of 30c plus days.

The gray blanket cloud is probably the tail end result of the massive Hunga Tonga volcano explosion.

https://research.noaa.gov/2023/12/20/hunga-tonga-2022-eruption

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWxiYDRXEAA7okE?format=jpg&name=large

=====

August:

Early Snows Hit Kyrgyzstan

Eastern U.S. Fells Cold Records, 150 Million To See Fall-Like Temps

UK's Coolest Summer Since 2015

First Significant Snows Forecast For The Alps

150 Years Of Antarctic Ice Data Reveals Decline In Wildfires Since 1920

Arizona Sees August Snow

Europe Forecast Stark Temperature Drop

Thousands Without Power In Tasmania As Cold And Snow Intensify

Foot Of Snow Closes Going-To-The-Sun Road

Rare August Snow Clips Montana's Peaks

Earth's Oceans Are Cooling Fast, And Scientists Have Yet To Come Up With A Party-Approved Reason Why

Snow In Wyoming And Colorado

August Snow Has U.S. Resorts Planning For Winter

Rare Snow And Century-Old Cold Records Fall In California

Rare August Chill Breaks Decades-Old Records

Rare August Snow For The Sierra Nevada

The Atlantic's Rapid Cooling

Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand's South Island

Record Summer Chills Sweep The Great Lakes, Northeast, and Southern Canada

Where Are The Hurricanes? Another Crushing Defeat For Team Climate Change

Antarctica Registers -75.5C (-103.9F), Sea Ice Surges

Winter Far From Over In New Zealand

Historical "Heatwave Days" Show No Trend

Researchers Pumped Extra CO2 Into A Forest, And Biodiversity Thrived

Low Temperature Records Fall In U.S.

Frosts Persist In South America, Impacting Coffee Prices

Island Nations Like Tuvalu: Growing, Not Sinking

Record Cold Sweeps Brazil

Antarctica Back Below -70C (-94F)

Summer Snowfall at Khardungla Pass

Polar Bear And Arctic Sea Ice Lies Persist

Polar Fronts To Hit South America

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Gains 1 Million Km2 In A Week

Frigid Winter Forecast For NH

Vast Cold Wave About To Sweep The U.S.
Greek Study Challenges CO2-Temperature Causality
Arctic Shipping Season Is Shortening
Rapid Antarctic Sea Ice Growth
Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand
Too Many Polar Bears In Greenland
British Farmers Paid To NOT Produce Food
Record July Cold Hits Scotland
Summer To Quit Early This Year
Remarkable Summer Gains On The Greenland Ice Sheet
Arctic Sea Ice Extent: No Cause For Alarm
$78 Trillion To Fight The Hoax of 'Climate Crisis'
AlleyCat
2024-09-06 13:25:00 UTC
Permalink
rain rain rain dammit stop flooding my town
A reminder of why it's been a bit wet this year. This graphic shows the spread of aerosols from the Hunga
Tonga eruption. The same event punched 140 megatons of water vapor into the stratosphere which will take an
estimated ten years to return to the surface.

Water went up, it has to come down... regardless of what the usual suspects would prefer you to focus on.

=====

We are living in a "post Hunga-Tonga" Climate. The Hunga-Tonga eruption injected an unprecedented volume of
water vapor into the stratosphere where it remains to this day, as visible from NASA's Aura MLS time series.
It is absolutely still impacting #climate #wxtwitter #wxX @_ClimateCraze

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWZqEZTXUAAa6tY?format=jpg&name=large

=====

Water vapor dominates the other GHGs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWZ2lIfaUAAWTts?format=jpg&name=large

=====

#ClimateScam
#CaliforniaRain
For CA to = its 1998 Feb precipitation record, rain would have to keep falling as it has during the 1st week
of Feb ave.~0.48"per day

During the current El Nino and after the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai volcano

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFxY2uKbQAAdZEz?format=png&name=900x900

=====

No worries, we'll probably hit a few decades cooling overall after this warming ;)
We're still freezing here (not literally).
This is the forecast. One of the coldest summers I can remember, overall so far. Wonder if that Hunga Tonga
has anything to do with this (much rain).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2oyl6JXEAA1jkO?format=png&name=900x900

=====

Remember it's your fault, and requires, your death, for any alteration of earth's climate. You are not
allowed to think about science... like Hunga Tonga Eruption pushing atmospheric water vapor content up 10-
14%.

https://volcano.si.edu/volcano.cfm?vn=243040...

A Volcanic Eruption Sent Enough Water Vapor Into The Stratosphere To Cause A Rapid Change In Chemistry

https://research.noaa.gov/2023/12/20/hunga-tonga-2022-eruption/

=====

1.5°C is dead as long as that water vapor remains in the stratosphere. And it's not being removed faster than
new water vapor from troposphere is being added.

I've looked at the maps. We're down bad.

Climate scientists pretend Hunga Tonga didn't happen.

Water is the potent greenhouse gas and Hunga Tonga ejected 146 million tonnes of water vapor into the
atmosphere increasing global concentrations by 10-15%.

=====

The underwater eruption of the Hunga Tonga volcano raised a huge amount of water into the upper atmosphere.
It is estimated that the water content of the atmosphere has increased by up to 15%. Water vapor is the main
cause of the greenhouse effect. There was an apt prediction about this recently.

=====

August:

Early Snows Hit Kyrgyzstan

Eastern U.S. Fells Cold Records, 150 Million To See Fall-Like Temps

UK's Coolest Summer Since 2015

First Significant Snows Forecast For The Alps

150 Years Of Antarctic Ice Data Reveals Decline In Wildfires Since 1920

Arizona Sees August Snow

Europe Forecast Stark Temperature Drop

Thousands Without Power In Tasmania As Cold And Snow Intensify

Foot Of Snow Closes Going-To-The-Sun Road

Rare August Snow Clips Montana's Peaks

Earth's Oceans Are Cooling Fast, And Scientists Have Yet To Come Up With A Party-Approved Reason Why

Snow In Wyoming And Colorado

August Snow Has U.S. Resorts Planning For Winter

Rare Snow And Century-Old Cold Records Fall In California

Rare August Chill Breaks Decades-Old Records

Rare August Snow For The Sierra Nevada

The Atlantic's Rapid Cooling

Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand's South Island

Record Summer Chills Sweep The Great Lakes, Northeast, and Southern Canada

Where Are The Hurricanes? Another Crushing Defeat For Team Climate Change

Antarctica Registers -75.5C (-103.9F), Sea Ice Surges

Winter Far From Over In New Zealand

Historical "Heatwave Days" Show No Trend

Researchers Pumped Extra CO2 Into A Forest, And Biodiversity Thrived

Low Temperature Records Fall In U.S.

Frosts Persist In South America, Impacting Coffee Prices

Island Nations Like Tuvalu: Growing, Not Sinking

Record Cold Sweeps Brazil

Antarctica Back Below -70C (-94F)

Summer Snowfall at Khardungla Pass

Polar Bear And Arctic Sea Ice Lies Persist

Polar Fronts To Hit South America

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Gains 1 Million Km2 In A Week

Frigid Winter Forecast For NH

Vast Cold Wave About To Sweep The U.S.
Greek Study Challenges CO2-Temperature Causality
Arctic Shipping Season Is Shortening
Rapid Antarctic Sea Ice Growth
Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand
Too Many Polar Bears In Greenland
British Farmers Paid To NOT Produce Food
Record July Cold Hits Scotland
Summer To Quit Early This Year
Remarkable Summer Gains On The Greenland Ice Sheet
Arctic Sea Ice Extent: No Cause For Alarm
$78 Trillion To Fight The Hoax of 'Climate Crisis'
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