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AlleyCat
2024-08-31 17:14:41 UTC
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If you can't say, "North Pole WILL Be Ice Free In 2008", don't say it at all. Model's predictions have ALWAYS
been wrong.

North Pole Could Be Ice Free in 2008
Scientists are preparing for the possibility of a watery North Pole.

By ABC News
April 25, 2008, 5:48 PM

You know when climate change is biting hard when instead of a vast expanse of snow the North Pole is a vast
expanse of water. This year, for the first time, Arctic scientists are preparing for that possibility.

"The set-up for this summer is disturbing," says Mark Serreze, of the US National Snow and Ice Data Center
(NSIDC). A number of factors have this year led to most of the Arctic ice being thin and vulnerable as it
enters its summer melting season.

In September 2007, Arctic sea ice reached a record low, opening up the fabled North-West passage that runs
from Greenland to Alaska.

The ice expanded again over the winter and in March 2008 covered a greater area than it had in March 2007.
Although this was billed as good news in many media sources, the trend since 1978 is on the decline.

Young and Thin

Arctic ice at its maximum in March, but that maximum is declining by 44,000 km2 per year on average, the
NSIDC has calculated (see graph, top right). That corresponds to an area roughly twice the size of New
Jersey.

What is more, the extent of the ice is only half the picture. Satellite images show that most of the Arctic
ice at the moment is thin, young ice that has only been around since last autumn (see picture, right).

Thin ice is far more vulnerable than thick ice that has piled up over several years.

Net Loss

"There is this thin first-year ice even at the North Pole at the moment," says Serreze. "This raises the
specter - the possibility that you could become ice free at the North Pole this year."

Despite its news value in the media, the North Pole being ice free is not in itself significant. To
scientists, Serreze points out, 'this is just another point on the globe". What is worrying, though, is the
fact that multi-year ice - the stuff that doesn't melt in the summer - is not piling up as fast as Arctic ice
generally is melting.

On average each year about half of the first year ice, formed between September and March, melts during the
following summer. In 2007, nearly all of it disappeared.

Its all still there.

"grrrrr," says ABC

=====

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Rare August Snow For The Sierra Nevada

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Record Summer Chills Sweep The Great Lakes, Northeast, and Southern Canada

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Antarctica Registers -75.5C (-103.9F), Sea Ice Surges

Winter Far From Over In New Zealand

Historical "Heatwave Days" Show No Trend

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Low Temperature Records Fall In U.S.

Frosts Persist In South America, Impacting Coffee Prices

Island Nations Like Tuvalu: Growing, Not Sinking

Record Cold Sweeps Brazil

Antarctica Back Below -70C (-94F)

Summer Snowfall at Khardungla Pass

Polar Bear And Arctic Sea Ice Lies Persist

Polar Fronts To Hit South America

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Gains 1 Million Km2 In A Week

Frigid Winter Forecast For NH

Vast Cold Wave About To Sweep The U.S.
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Arctic Shipping Season Is Shortening
Rapid Antarctic Sea Ice Growth
Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand
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Dhu on Gate
2024-09-01 16:50:53 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
If you can't say, "North Pole WILL Be Ice Free In 2008", don't say it at
all. Model's predictions have ALWAYS been wrong.
North Pole Could Be Ice Free in 2008 Scientists are preparing for the
possibility of a watery North Pole.
By ABC News April 25, 2008, 5:48 PM
You know when climate change is biting hard when instead of a vast expanse
of snow the North Pole is a vast expanse of water. This year, for the
first time, Arctic scientists are preparing for that possibility.
"The set-up for this summer is disturbing," says Mark Serreze, of the US
National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC). A number of factors have this
year led to most of the Arctic ice being thin and vulnerable as it enters
its summer melting season.
In September 2007, Arctic sea ice reached a record low, opening up the
fabled North-West passage that runs from Greenland to Alaska.
The ice expanded again over the winter and in March 2008 covered a greater
area than it had in March 2007. Although this was billed as good news in
many media sources, the trend since 1978 is on the decline.
Young and Thin
Arctic ice at its maximum in March, but that maximum is declining by
44,000 km2 per year on average, the NSIDC has calculated (see graph, top
right). That corresponds to an area roughly twice the size of New Jersey.
What is more, the extent of the ice is only half the picture. Satellite
images show that most of the Arctic ice at the moment is thin, young ice
that has only been around since last autumn (see picture, right).
Ya know, you really ought to read what you post sometime.
Granted it's only the first step to comprehension of these
matters, but it's a Big One.

Dhu

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AlleyCat
2024-09-01 20:32:36 UTC
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On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 16:50:53 -0000 (UTC), Dhu on Gate says...
Post by Dhu on Gate
Ya know, you really ought to read what you post sometime.
Is the Arctic ice-free?

=====

August:

Thousands Without Power In Tasmania As Cold And Snow Intensify

Foot Of Snow Closes Going-To-The-Sun Road

Rare August Snow Clips Montana's Peaks

Earth's Oceans Are Cooling Fast, And Scientists Have Yet To Come Up With A Party-Approved Reason Why

Snow In Wyoming And Colorado

August Snow Has U.S. Resorts Planning For Winter

Rare Snow And Century-Old Cold Records Fall In California

Rare August Chill Breaks Decades-Old Records

Rare August Snow For The Sierra Nevada

The Atlantic's Rapid Cooling

Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand's South Island

Record Summer Chills Sweep The Great Lakes, Northeast, and Southern Canada

Where Are The Hurricanes? Another Crushing Defeat For Team Climate Change

Antarctica Registers -75.5C (-103.9F), Sea Ice Surges

Winter Far From Over In New Zealand

Historical "Heatwave Days" Show No Trend

Researchers Pumped Extra CO2 Into A Forest, And Biodiversity Thrived

Low Temperature Records Fall In U.S.

Frosts Persist In South America, Impacting Coffee Prices

Island Nations Like Tuvalu: Growing, Not Sinking

Record Cold Sweeps Brazil

Antarctica Back Below -70C (-94F)

Summer Snowfall at Khardungla Pass

Polar Bear And Arctic Sea Ice Lies Persist

Polar Fronts To Hit South America

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Gains 1 Million Km2 In A Week

Frigid Winter Forecast For NH

Vast Cold Wave About To Sweep The U.S.
Greek Study Challenges CO2-Temperature Causality
Arctic Shipping Season Is Shortening
Rapid Antarctic Sea Ice Growth
Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand
Too Many Polar Bears In Greenland
British Farmers Paid To NOT Produce Food
Record July Cold Hits Scotland
Summer To Quit Early This Year
Remarkable Summer Gains On The Greenland Ice Sheet
Arctic Sea Ice Extent: No Cause For Alarm
$78 Trillion To Fight The Hoax of 'Climate Crisis'
Dhu on Gate
2024-09-02 01:34:40 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Post by Dhu on Gate
Ya know, you really ought to read what you post sometime.
Is the Arctic ice-free?
There's A LOT LESS OF IT. Read what you post.

Dhu
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Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
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Alan
2024-09-01 20:24:29 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
If you can't say, "North Pole WILL Be Ice Free In 2008", don't say it at all. Model's predictions have ALWAYS
been wrong.
North Pole Could Be Ice Free in 2008
Scientists are preparing for the possibility of a watery North Pole.
By ABC News
April 25, 2008, 5:48 PM
You know when climate change is biting hard when instead of a vast expanse of snow the North Pole is a vast
expanse of water. This year, for the first time, Arctic scientists are preparing for that possibility.
"The set-up for this summer is disturbing," says Mark Serreze, of the US National Snow and Ice Data Center
(NSIDC). A number of factors have this year led to most of the Arctic ice being thin and vulnerable as it
enters its summer melting season.
In September 2007, Arctic sea ice reached a record low, opening up the fabled North-West passage that runs
from Greenland to Alaska.
And just to be clear, that "record low" from 2007 was broken...

...2011...

...and 2012...

...and 2016...

...and 2020...

...and 2024 is on pace to at least equal it.

<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
AlleyCat
2024-09-02 00:26:28 UTC
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Is the Arctic ice-free?

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Alan
2024-09-01 22:34:06 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Is the Arctic ice-free?
No.

There. I answered honestly, now you:

Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
AlleyCat
2024-09-02 00:36:10 UTC
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"North Pole Could Be Ice Free In 2008"

If you can't say, "North Pole WILL Be Ice Free In 2008", don't say it at all. Model's predictions have ALWAYS
been wrong.

North Pole Could Be Ice Free in 2008
Scientists are preparing for the possibility of a watery North Pole.

By ABC News
April 25, 2008, 5:48 PM

You know when climate change is biting hard when instead of a vast expanse of snow the North Pole is a vast
expanse of water. This year, for the first time, Arctic scientists are preparing for that possibility.

"The set-up for this summer is disturbing," says Mark Serreze, of the US National Snow and Ice Data Center
(NSIDC). A number of factors have this year led to most of the Arctic ice being thin and vulnerable as it
enters its summer melting season.

In September 2007, Arctic sea ice reached a record low, opening up the fabled North-West passage that runs
from Greenland to Alaska.

The ice expanded again over the winter and in March 2008 covered a greater area than it had in March 2007.
Although this was billed as good news in many media sources, the trend since 1978 is on the decline.

Young and Thin

Arctic ice at its maximum in March, but that maximum is declining by 44,000 km2 per year on average, the
NSIDC has calculated (see graph, top right). That corresponds to an area roughly twice the size of New
Jersey.

What is more, the extent of the ice is only half the picture. Satellite images show that most of the Arctic
ice at the moment is thin, young ice that has only been around since last autumn (see picture, right).

Thin ice is far more vulnerable than thick ice that has piled up over several years.

Net Loss

"There is this thin first-year ice even at the North Pole at the moment," says Serreze. "This raises the
specter - the possibility that you could become ice free at the North Pole this year."

Despite its news value in the media, the North Pole being ice free is not in itself significant. To
scientists, Serreze points out, 'this is just another point on the globe". What is worrying, though, is the
fact that multi-year ice - the stuff that doesn't melt in the summer - is not piling up as fast as Arctic ice
generally is melting.

On average each year about half of the first year ice, formed between September and March, melts during the
following summer. In 2007, nearly all of it disappeared.

Its all still there.

"grrrrr," says ABC

=====

August:

Thousands Without Power In Tasmania As Cold And Snow Intensify

Foot Of Snow Closes Going-To-The-Sun Road

Rare August Snow Clips Montana's Peaks

Earth's Oceans Are Cooling Fast, And Scientists Have Yet To Come Up With A Party-Approved Reason Why

Snow In Wyoming And Colorado

August Snow Has U.S. Resorts Planning For Winter

Rare Snow And Century-Old Cold Records Fall In California

Rare August Chill Breaks Decades-Old Records

Rare August Snow For The Sierra Nevada

The Atlantic's Rapid Cooling

Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand's South Island

Record Summer Chills Sweep The Great Lakes, Northeast, and Southern Canada

Where Are The Hurricanes? Another Crushing Defeat For Team Climate Change

Antarctica Registers -75.5C (-103.9F), Sea Ice Surges

Winter Far From Over In New Zealand

Historical "Heatwave Days" Show No Trend

Researchers Pumped Extra CO2 Into A Forest, And Biodiversity Thrived

Low Temperature Records Fall In U.S.

Frosts Persist In South America, Impacting Coffee Prices

Island Nations Like Tuvalu: Growing, Not Sinking

Record Cold Sweeps Brazil

Antarctica Back Below -70C (-94F)

Summer Snowfall at Khardungla Pass

Polar Bear And Arctic Sea Ice Lies Persist

Polar Fronts To Hit South America

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Gains 1 Million Km2 In A Week

Frigid Winter Forecast For NH

Vast Cold Wave About To Sweep The U.S.
Greek Study Challenges CO2-Temperature Causality
Arctic Shipping Season Is Shortening
Rapid Antarctic Sea Ice Growth
Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand
Too Many Polar Bears In Greenland
British Farmers Paid To NOT Produce Food
Record July Cold Hits Scotland
Summer To Quit Early This Year
Remarkable Summer Gains On The Greenland Ice Sheet
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Alan
2024-09-01 23:37:08 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
"North Pole Could Be Ice Free In 2008"
And I knew you'd punk.

You asked a question, I answered it honestly.

You didn't have the personal integrity to do the same.

Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
AlleyCat
2024-09-02 02:24:34 UTC
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Has Arctic sea ice extent increased 23% since 2012?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWZINrDacAA_sXT?format=png&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWZKAPIWIAAsAKj?format=png&name=900x900

Has there been no trend in Arctic sea ice extent since Greta Thunberg was three years old?

ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/north/daily/data/N_seaice_extent_daily_v3.0.csv

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWZMAttWsAAX7MU?format=jpg&name=large

The Arctic melt season is almost over, and Arctic sea ice extent is up 24% since 2012. All of the academic
predictions of doom from 2012 were typically baseless junk science which I have come to expect from our
"finest" universities.

#ClimateScam

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Why would Arctic sea ice grow for the past 4 years during global warming?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRiEjRnb0AA0MxY?format=jpg&name=medium

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Alan
2024-09-02 01:25:34 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Has Arctic sea ice extent increased 23% since 2012?
Answer my question first, Pussey:

Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
Dhu on Gate
2024-09-02 01:36:56 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Has Arctic sea ice extent increased 23% since 2012?
Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
Neither of yous appear to have read the information in the post.
The semantics are beyond comprehension, I'm guessin'.

Bots go home.

Dhu
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Governor Swill
2024-09-02 02:31:25 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Has Arctic sea ice extent increased 23% since 2012?
Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
He won't because that would make him wrong.


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2024-09-02 16:05:13 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
make him wrong.
Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
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United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-09-02 16:19:45 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
that would make him wrong.
Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
Post by Governor Swill
is an important step to getting there.
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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AlleyCat
2024-09-02 14:14:45 UTC
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On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 13:24:29 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
And just to be clear, that "record low" from 2007 was broken...
And just to be clear, ALL of those records are not in play anymore, since... you know... the ice has come
back.

So much for global warming.


Oh...

And WHO said Arctic ice was never supposed to melt?

The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the
water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulafft, at Bergen, Norway.

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and
hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has
been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream
still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report
continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.

Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts
which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

I apologize, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922. As reported by the AP and
published in The Washington Post - 88 years ago!

Do YOU know what the CO² level was in 1922?

304ppm.

As hot or hotter then, than now, with 100ppm less CO². LOL

=====

August 21 Arctic sea ice extent has grown by more than 600,000 km. sq. since 2012. The increase in area is
nearly equivalent to the size of Texas.
#ClimateScam

ftp://osisaf.met.no/prod_test/ice/index/v2p2/nh/osisaf_nh_sie_daily.txt

=====

Today's @NASAClimate lying:

NOAA claims Arctic sea ice is vanishing at 12% per decade but Arctic sea ice extent is actually the same
today as it was in 2006.

=====

Arctic sea ice extent has increased 23% since 2012, defying the brainless predictions of #ClimateScam
professionals and
@BBCNews
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7139797.stm

=====

The Arctic melt season is almost over, and Arctic sea ice extent is up 24% since 2012. All of the academic
predictions of doom from 2012 were typically baseless junk science which I have come to expect from our
"finest" universities.
#ClimateScam

https://noaadata.apps.nsidc.org/NOAA/G02135/north/daily/images/2024/08_Aug/N_20240829_extn_v3.0.png
https://noaadata.apps.nsidc.org/NOAA/G02135/north/daily/images/2012/08_Aug/N_20120829_extn_v3.0.png

=====

Arctic sea ice extent is now officially the highest it has been in 18-years. Volume (unadjusted) is higher
than the 2004-13 mean. Trend since 2003 is negligible, but since 1979 is down. You'd think we'd hear about
how great this is, but not one peep from scientists or the press.

=====

As of today, Arctic sea ice extent (SIE) is now the 3rd highest in the past 18-years, and tomorrow should
surpass the SIE in 2005 (top green line). It's not far behind 2009 either. Forecasts for an ice-free Arctic
are looking really bad for climate alarmists.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCEmQAtaEAAiA-x?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

=====

Temperatures over the Arctic Ocean have dropped below freezing, and Arctic sea ice melt has nearly stopped.
Academics who are predicting an ice-free Arctic are incompetent, dishonest - or both

Loading Image...
ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/north/daily/data/N_seaice_extent_daily_v3.0.csv

=====

Despite more than 830 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide emissions over the last 28-years, Arctic sea ice
extent (SIE), as of April 9, is the exact same as it was in 1996. Based on climate models, Arctic SIE should
be in a rapid death spiral as a result of GHG forcing, but this isn't happening. SIE is also higher than it
was in 2005, 2006 and 2007, and is highest in 10-years.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK2_e5YXgAAjrgV?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK2_e5XXgAAkbpc?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK2_e5XXkAATbof?format=jpg&name=large

=====

Dr Richard Lawson
@DocRichard

Models did underestimate the rate of Arctic sea ice loss. That's *underestimate*.

The Arctic SIE bottomed out between 2007 and 2012. It is now in the early stages of an expansion phase.

=====

With yesterday's data in, Arctic sea ice extent (SIE) sits at 13.060 million km². SIE is currently the
highest it has been for the date in 11-years and is higher than it was at this time in 1989, 2003, 2004,
2005, 2006, 2007, 2010 and 2011. In the next few days, if the slow rate of ice melt continues to hold, it
could surpass 1995, 1997, 2002, 2008, 2012 and 2013. Desperate times for the climate doomer crowd who have
been anticipating an ice-free summer for the last quarter of a century
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=zmI0AAAAIBAJandsjid=L5wEAAAAIBAJandpg=5376,3200988.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNtW16JXAAAlcVC?format=png&name=360x360
Alan
2024-09-02 16:26:10 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 13:24:29 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
And just to be clear, that "record low" from 2007 was broken...
And just to be clear, ALL of those records are not in play anymore, since... you know... the ice has come
back.
So much for global warming.
Has it, though?

Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
Skeeter
2024-09-02 16:33:31 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 13:24:29 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
And just to be clear, that "record low" from 2007 was broken...
And just to be clear, ALL of those records are not in play anymore, since... you know... the ice has come
back.
So much for global warming.
Has it, though?
Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
So what. The world will do whatever it wants.
Alan
2024-09-02 16:43:48 UTC
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Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 13:24:29 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
And just to be clear, that "record low" from 2007 was broken...
And just to be clear, ALL of those records are not in play anymore, since... you know... the ice has come
back.
So much for global warming.
Has it, though?
Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
So what. The world will do whatever it wants.
Again, you don't see the cognitive dissonance.
Skeeter
2024-09-02 21:49:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 13:24:29 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
And just to be clear, that "record low" from 2007 was broken...
And just to be clear, ALL of those records are not in play anymore, since... you know... the ice has come
back.
So much for global warming.
Has it, though?
Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
So what. The world will do whatever it wants.
Again, you don't see the cognitive dissonance.
I guess not but I do see a lot of nothing created by a bunch of nobodys.
I'm still waiting for that ice age we were supposed to get.
Dhu on Gate
2024-09-03 02:13:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 13:24:29 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
And just to be clear, that "record low" from 2007 was broken...
And just to be clear, ALL of those records are not in play anymore, since... you know... the ice has come
back.
So much for global warming.
Has it, though?
Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
So what. The world will do whatever it wants.
Again, you don't see the cognitive dissonance.
You don't seem to understand that your ad-hominem balch
about "cognitive dissonance" without reference or context
is either intellectual laziness or incapacity, or more
prob'ly, both.

post scriptorum: Rush is dead, but you'd not understand
the salience of that fact because you're a bot: gears
got no life past their maker's hand ;-)

Dhu
--
Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
Duncan Patton a Campbell
Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-09-04 16:38:59 UTC
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change?
<shitsnip>
Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Bill Flett and a few
dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-09-04 16:42:03 UTC
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not understanding the difference
Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Bill Flett and a few
dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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AlleyCat
2024-09-04 17:05:49 UTC
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On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 21:53:36 -0700, Alan says...
The extant of ice, of the Arctic, of any random glacier
FLUCTUATES!
Why is it that none of you understand that RATE of change matters.
In less than 50 years, minimum Arctic sea ice extent has decrease by
more than 36%.
And HOW, exactly, do you know that's never happened before? Prove it. This is NOT one of those cases where
you can't prove a negative.

It will be easy for you to prove that ice never melted as fast as it is now, IF you have half a brain.


PLATE IV Tree stump (Picea glauca) in the North Canadian tundra.

The stump, radiocarbon dated about 4940 years (±140) B.P., is seen still standing on a steep
bank on the Tuktoyaktuk Peninsula (69°7'N 133°16'w) which borders the Arctic Ocean (Beaufort
Sea) east of the delta of the Mackenzie River in extreme northwest Canada. This tree in what is now
tundra shows wider growth rings than the nearest present-day spruce forest 80-100 km farther south,
near Inuvik in the lowest part of the Mackenzie River valley.
(Photograph kindly supplied by Professor J. C. Ritchie of Scarborough College, Toronto University, and
reproduced with his kind permission.)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWmZWEdasAEgG1H?format=jpg&name=medium

=====

Trees don't lie, but climate scientists do.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWmUEW4agAEVpkD?format=jpg&name=medium

=====

Earth was much warmer 5,000 years ago, the Arctic Ocean was likely ice-free, and trees grew all the way to
edge of the Arctic Ocean in what is now permafrost.
#ClimateScam
https://sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0033589499921233
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWmSP89a4AAdg7w?format=jpg&name=large

=====

August:

Thousands Without Power In Tasmania As Cold And Snow Intensify

Foot Of Snow Closes Going-To-The-Sun Road

Rare August Snow Clips Montana's Peaks

Earth's Oceans Are Cooling Fast, And Scientists Have Yet To Come Up With A Party-Approved Reason Why

Snow In Wyoming And Colorado

August Snow Has U.S. Resorts Planning For Winter

Rare Snow And Century-Old Cold Records Fall In California

Rare August Chill Breaks Decades-Old Records

Rare August Snow For The Sierra Nevada

The Atlantic's Rapid Cooling

Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand's South Island

Record Summer Chills Sweep The Great Lakes, Northeast, and Southern Canada

Where Are The Hurricanes? Another Crushing Defeat For Team Climate Change

Antarctica Registers -75.5C (-103.9F), Sea Ice Surges

Winter Far From Over In New Zealand

Historical "Heatwave Days" Show No Trend

Researchers Pumped Extra CO2 Into A Forest, And Biodiversity Thrived

Low Temperature Records Fall In U.S.

Frosts Persist In South America, Impacting Coffee Prices

Island Nations Like Tuvalu: Growing, Not Sinking

Record Cold Sweeps Brazil

Antarctica Back Below -70C (-94F)

Summer Snowfall at Khardungla Pass

Polar Bear And Arctic Sea Ice Lies Persist

Polar Fronts To Hit South America

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Gains 1 Million Km2 In A Week

Frigid Winter Forecast For NH

Vast Cold Wave About To Sweep The U.S.
Greek Study Challenges CO2-Temperature Causality
Arctic Shipping Season Is Shortening
Rapid Antarctic Sea Ice Growth
Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand
Too Many Polar Bears In Greenland
British Farmers Paid To NOT Produce Food
Record July Cold Hits Scotland
Summer To Quit Early This Year
Remarkable Summer Gains On The Greenland Ice Sheet
Arctic Sea Ice Extent: No Cause For Alarm
$78 Trillion To Fight The Hoax of 'Climate Crisis'
AlleyCat
2024-09-04 17:50:52 UTC
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On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 21:53:36 -0700, Alan says...
Are you planning on running and running now?
Damn. Are you honestly THIS retarded or are you trolling?
There's no magic number where the temperature is just warm
enough to keep the ice from growing and just cold enough to
keep the ice from melting. No, sorry, you're a fucking idiot.
The extant of ice, of the Arctic, of any random glacier
FLUCTUATES!
Why is it that none of you understand that RATE of change matters.
In less than 50 years, minimum Arctic sea ice extent has decrease by
more than 36%.
Tell us EXACTLY how you know the "RATE of change" wasn't the same before, as it is now?

Temperatures raised JUST as fast and high, so WHY couldn't the ice do the same as now?

Loading Image...

See those red lines, stupid. Some of those red lines are roughly the same number or years apart as 1880-2024,
from lowest to highest temps, so there HAS to be some quick "RATES of changes" in ice melts in there, too.

=============================================================================

Global Warming Explains EVERYTHING!

Global Warming makes for shorter winters, except for when it makes for longer winters.

Global Warming means less snow, except for when Global Warming means more snow.

And Global Warming causes droughts in California and floods in Texas and Oklahoma and generally makes wet
places wetter and dry places dryer, except when it makes wet places drier and dry places wetter, except when
none of that changes at all, and then Global Warming explains that too!

And Global Warming causes more hurricanes at the same time as it causes less hurricanes.

Global Warming causes more rain but less water... and less rain but more water?

Global Warming causes more water vapour in the atmosphere with more snow and rain, at the same time it causes
less water vapour in the atmosphere, with less snow and rain?

Global Warming decreases the spread of malaria at the same time as it increases the spread of malaria.

Global Warming makes San Francisco foggier... Global Warming makes San Francisco less foggy.

Global Warming causes duller autumn leaves... Global Warming causes shinier autumn leaves.

Global Warming makes for less salty seas... Global Warming makes for saltier seas.

Global Warming causes the polar ice caps to melt... Global Warming also causes the polar ice caps to freeze.

Global Warming makes the Earth hotter, unless the Earth isn't getting hotter... in which case, Global Warming
can explain that too.

What's the problem here? This sounds like the perfect scientific theory. It can explain literally everything
including self contradictory things.

This means it's absolutely perfect, doesn't it?

Well no, not according to Karl Popper and the philosophers of science and within the philosophy of science
there's something called the demarcation problem... how do you differentiate science from pseudo-science?

The left won't LET you, and brands you a denierrrrrrr(whining).
AlleyCat
2024-09-04 17:50:57 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 21:53:36 -0700, Alan says...
Are you planning on running and running now?
Damn. Are you honestly THIS retarded or are you trolling?
There's no magic number where the temperature is just warm
enough to keep the ice from growing and just cold enough to
keep the ice from melting. No, sorry, you're a fucking idiot.
The extant of ice, of the Arctic, of any random glacier
FLUCTUATES!
Why is it that none of you understand that RATE of change matters.
In less than 50 years, minimum Arctic sea ice extent has decrease by
more than 36%.
And then came back.

All right... tell us that's NEVER happened before.

Bu bu but not hissssstorrrrricalllllly.... right?

Annnnd according to you... and NASA... and The NOAA... and ... and... history is only 45 years old.

=====

August:

Thousands Without Power In Tasmania As Cold And Snow Intensify

Foot Of Snow Closes Going-To-The-Sun Road

Rare August Snow Clips Montana's Peaks

Earth's Oceans Are Cooling Fast, And Scientists Have Yet To Come Up With A Party-Approved Reason Why

Snow In Wyoming And Colorado

August Snow Has U.S. Resorts Planning For Winter

Rare Snow And Century-Old Cold Records Fall In California

Rare August Chill Breaks Decades-Old Records

Rare August Snow For The Sierra Nevada

The Atlantic's Rapid Cooling

Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand's South Island

Record Summer Chills Sweep The Great Lakes, Northeast, and Southern Canada

Where Are The Hurricanes? Another Crushing Defeat For Team Climate Change

Antarctica Registers -75.5C (-103.9F), Sea Ice Surges

Winter Far From Over In New Zealand

Historical "Heatwave Days" Show No Trend

Researchers Pumped Extra CO2 Into A Forest, And Biodiversity Thrived

Low Temperature Records Fall In U.S.

Frosts Persist In South America, Impacting Coffee Prices

Island Nations Like Tuvalu: Growing, Not Sinking

Record Cold Sweeps Brazil

Antarctica Back Below -70C (-94F)

Summer Snowfall at Khardungla Pass

Polar Bear And Arctic Sea Ice Lies Persist

Polar Fronts To Hit South America

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Gains 1 Million Km2 In A Week

Frigid Winter Forecast For NH

Vast Cold Wave About To Sweep The U.S.
Greek Study Challenges CO2-Temperature Causality
Arctic Shipping Season Is Shortening
Rapid Antarctic Sea Ice Growth
Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand
Too Many Polar Bears In Greenland
British Farmers Paid To NOT Produce Food
Record July Cold Hits Scotland
Summer To Quit Early This Year
Remarkable Summer Gains On The Greenland Ice Sheet
Arctic Sea Ice Extent: No Cause For Alarm
$78 Trillion To Fight The Hoax of 'Climate Crisis'
Siri Cruise
2024-09-04 18:38:39 UTC
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Why is it that none of you understand that RATE of change matters.
What are you pretending is the rate of change?
<shitsnip>
The issue with the rate of change is that anthropogenic global warming, in less
than 200 years, is changing various environments faster than ever; evolution
cannot keep up.
Even humans, especially at the margins, cannot keep up, and are experiencing an
ever-increasing raft of extreme and expensive events (droughts, flooding, more
powerful hurricanes).
It's estimated that one-third of corals, freshwater molluscs, sharks and rays,
one-fourth of all mammals, one-fifth of all reptiles, and one-sixth of all
birds are heading towards extinction and species die-offs.
And we're not even at the peak of warming yet.
You never know what you got until it's gone.
They paved paradise
and put up a parking lot.

We are star dust.
We are golden.
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Governor Swill
2024-09-05 07:07:09 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Why is it that none of you understand that RATE of change matters.
What are you pretending is the rate of change?
<shitsnip>
The issue with the rate of change is that anthropogenic global warming, in less
than 200 years, is changing various environments faster than ever; evolution
cannot keep up.
Even humans, especially at the margins, cannot keep up, and are experiencing an
ever-increasing raft of extreme and expensive events (droughts, flooding, more
powerful hurricanes).
It's estimated that one-third of corals, freshwater molluscs, sharks and rays,
one-fourth of all mammals, one-fifth of all reptiles, and one-sixth of all
birds are heading towards extinction and species die-offs.
And we're not even at the peak of warming yet.
You never know what you got until it's gone.
They paved paradise
and put up a parking lot.
We are star dust.
We are golden.
Have you heard her sing "Goodbye Blue Sky"?

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#NEVERtrump
Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-09-05 15:54:24 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
you heard
Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Bill Flett/kami and a
few dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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is an important step to getting there.
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-09-06 15:22:14 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
heard her sing
Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Bill Flett/kami and a
few dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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Dhu on Gate
2024-09-04 07:23:41 UTC
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Our models no longer work, forecasters can't figure it out. This is not
normal.
Yes.

And we are not going to "fix" it by cutting our
throats and jumping down a hole in the ground.

Dhu
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Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
Duncan Patton a Campbell
Mittens Romney
2024-09-04 19:42:35 UTC
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Post by Dhu on Gate
Our models no longer work, forecasters can't figure it out. This is not
normal.
Yes.
And we are not going to "fix" it by cutting our
throats and jumping down a hole in the ground.
Dhu
Once our 'models" begin accounting for a whopping 30% drop in the
strength of the magnetosphere we've had, perhaps they "could" be made to
work.

Of curse they're going to have to be updated with the real rate of
magnetic decline, which only recently has come into discussion.

ESA has helpfully offered to start a new mission to monitor things.

Huh, so what happened to the old data, decades of it?

Yeah.
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JTEM
2024-09-03 06:02:06 UTC
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Post by Alan
Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979
You know the earth entered a cooling period around WWII which
didn't end until the late 1970s.

You're cherry picking. Why? What's special about 1979, or what
do you need to pretend is special?

Why not 1779?

Why not 5279 BC(E)?

You are an intensely stupid person, clearly out of his element,
and for that I laugh at you.
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Alan
2024-09-04 17:02:40 UTC
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On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 09:26:10 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
Is man responsible for that... you know... since the ice has melted before with nearly HALF the CO² levels we
have now?
Is that a "yes"?
Just answer the question.
I'll answer the question once I get a straight answer to mine.

:-)
AlleyCat
2024-09-04 17:12:02 UTC
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:02:40 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Just answer the question.
I'll answer the question once I get a straight answer to mine.
You're such a fucking child.

You want answers to your questions?

Start your own threads. Prove my stuff wrong, then, if you have questions, ask them, but refute first.

Asking questions is not refuting anything.

If I say that ice has recovered so many percentage points, prove that wrong. Don't offer alternatives until
you've refuted what is claimed.

I know it's a game for you faggots to play, thinking you're the smartest faggots in the room if you can get
the discussion moving in a direction where you THINK you can win, but we straight white males don't feel like
playing faggot games.

Refute the claims, THEN offer your side.

=====

August:

Thousands Without Power In Tasmania As Cold And Snow Intensify

Foot Of Snow Closes Going-To-The-Sun Road

Rare August Snow Clips Montana's Peaks

Earth's Oceans Are Cooling Fast, And Scientists Have Yet To Come Up With A Party-Approved Reason Why

Snow In Wyoming And Colorado

August Snow Has U.S. Resorts Planning For Winter

Rare Snow And Century-Old Cold Records Fall In California

Rare August Chill Breaks Decades-Old Records

Rare August Snow For The Sierra Nevada

The Atlantic's Rapid Cooling

Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand's South Island

Record Summer Chills Sweep The Great Lakes, Northeast, and Southern Canada

Where Are The Hurricanes? Another Crushing Defeat For Team Climate Change

Antarctica Registers -75.5C (-103.9F), Sea Ice Surges

Winter Far From Over In New Zealand

Historical "Heatwave Days" Show No Trend

Researchers Pumped Extra CO2 Into A Forest, And Biodiversity Thrived

Low Temperature Records Fall In U.S.

Frosts Persist In South America, Impacting Coffee Prices

Island Nations Like Tuvalu: Growing, Not Sinking

Record Cold Sweeps Brazil

Antarctica Back Below -70C (-94F)

Summer Snowfall at Khardungla Pass

Polar Bear And Arctic Sea Ice Lies Persist

Polar Fronts To Hit South America

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Gains 1 Million Km2 In A Week

Frigid Winter Forecast For NH

Vast Cold Wave About To Sweep The U.S.
Greek Study Challenges CO2-Temperature Causality
Arctic Shipping Season Is Shortening
Rapid Antarctic Sea Ice Growth
Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand
Too Many Polar Bears In Greenland
British Farmers Paid To NOT Produce Food
Record July Cold Hits Scotland
Summer To Quit Early This Year
Remarkable Summer Gains On The Greenland Ice Sheet
Arctic Sea Ice Extent: No Cause For Alarm
$78 Trillion To Fight The Hoax of 'Climate Crisis'
Alan
2024-09-04 17:19:41 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:02:40 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Just answer the question.
I'll answer the question once I get a straight answer to mine.
You're such a fucking child.
And you're a pussy.
Post by AlleyCat
You want answers to your questions?
Yup.
Post by AlleyCat
Start your own threads. Prove my stuff wrong, then, if you have questions, ask them, but refute first.
It's not my job to prove you wrong. It's your job to support what you claim.
Post by AlleyCat
Asking questions is not refuting anything.
It certainly can be.

You want to have it both ways...

...just like all little pussies.
Mittens Romney
2024-09-04 17:28:13 UTC
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Post by Alan
You want to have it both ways...
...just like all little pussies.
How'd you like your big talk self rearranged?

Let's meet up for poutine, you cowardly cuntbag.
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Alan
2024-09-04 17:46:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mittens Romney
Post by Alan
You want to have it both ways...
...just like all little pussies.
How'd you like your big talk self rearranged?
Let's meet up for poutine, you cowardly cuntbag.
Oh, look!

It's Loser-2 trying to puff himself up!
Mittens Romney
2024-09-04 19:19:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan
Post by Mittens Romney
Post by Alan
You want to have it both ways...
...just like all little pussies.
How'd you like your big talk self rearranged?
Let's meet up for poutine, you cowardly cuntbag.
Oh, look!
It's Loser-2 trying to puff himself up!
How'd you like your big talk self rearranged?

Let's meet up for poutine, you cowardly cuntbag.
--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪
Alan
2024-09-04 17:46:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:02:40 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Just answer the question.
I'll answer the question once I get a straight answer to mine.
You're such a fucking child.
And you're a pussy.
Post by AlleyCat
You want answers to your questions?
Yup.
Post by AlleyCat
Start your own threads. Prove my stuff wrong, then, if you have questions, ask them, but refute first.
It's not my job to prove you wrong. It's your job to support what you claim.
Oh the irony.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Asking questions is not refuting anything.
It certainly can be.
No. Holman does the same thing. It's called diverting.
That depends on the question.
AlleyCat
2024-09-04 18:56:59 UTC
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:46:29 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
No. Holman does the same thing. It's called diverting.
That depends on the question.
No... you divert every post. You NEVER stay on topic. That's diverting.

Case in point:

*I* post about Arctic ice rebounding, but you stay on something that's moot, like a 50 year old trend. That's
deceitful, at best... pure lying.

If there's a 50 year downward trend, it matters not, if the last 24 shows an upward trend. All you
narcissistic nerds pull that crap.

And THAT'S part of the "cherry-picking" problem you faggots have. Yes... Arctic ice IS down, but it's coming
back up IN A WARMING PLANET , yet you faggots hold onto that "trend" bullshit.

Might as well use a 4.5 billion year trend-line, if you faggots are going to keep this bullshit up.

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Why Do People With Narcissistic Personality Disorder Play Games?

At times, it may appear that the goal of someone living with NPD is to get their needs met, which may involve
other people who consciously and unconsciously help them achieve that end, says Dena DiNardo, PhD, a clinical
psychologist in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

"These 'games' are strategic manipulations," she adds. "Often, they're completely unconscious. People having
trouble with this level of narcissism are usually in such deep pain that their ability to empathetically
connect with the pain of others is low."

What games do people with narcissistic personality disorder play?

Those who live with NPD often HAVE LOW SELF-ESTEEM.

As a result, many games they play may revolve around maintaining a sense of control, so they don't have to be
confronted with the shame that they may feel inside.

This is why Ski Bunny can't post his own shit.

"People with narcissistic personality disorder tend to use strategies to gain power and control over the
individual in order to assert superiority and/or dominance over them," says Rahmah Albugami, a licensed
professional counselor in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. "In this way, they get their needs met TO BOOST THEIR
EGOS, VALUE, AND SELF-ESTEEM."

Poor Ski Bunny. :-(

Some common games someone with narcissistic personality disorder might engage in include:

blame shifting
deception
gaslighting
ghosting
playing the victim
projection

While these games may be common for someone with NPD, not everyone who plays them will have this condition or
another personality disorder.

How can you recognize when games are being played?

Becoming more familiar with these games may help you spot them in action and set appropriate personal
boundaries.

Gaslighting:

Gaslighting refers to denying the truth of a situation as you saw or heard it, which can confuse your sense
of reality. They may be trying to avoid getting caught for something by turning it back around on you.

"One of the most common things to look out for are if you're constantly questioning yourself," says Albugami.

Revenge:

Having a fragile sense of self is not uncommon for someone with NPD.

If you call them out on their behaviors, it may create a narcissistic rage or injury. Rather than sit with
the difficult emotion and self-reflect, they may instead externalize the agony they feel in the form of
revenge.
Dhu on Gate
2024-09-04 22:35:41 UTC
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Post by Mittens Romney
Yes.
Yes it really is.
How'd you like your big talk self rearranged?
Let's meet up for poutine, you cowardly cuntbag.
It's a Terminator BOT. It can't, yet.

Dhu
--
Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
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Skeeter
2024-09-04 22:59:16 UTC
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In article <vbai7s$3vrot$***@dont-email.me>, ***@invalid.ut
says...
Post by Mittens Romney
Yes.
Yes it really is.
How'd you like your big talk self rearranged?
Let's meet up for poutine, you cowardly cuntbag.
I think you scared him off.
AlleyCat
2024-09-05 17:05:13 UTC
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It's colder now. The trend shows it.

Loading Image...

On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 13:58:21 -0700, Alan says...
It's putting your claim into a larger context.
We don't need or WANT a 50 year old trend, because that's not being honest.

If you look at the past 20 years, the last 50 are moot.
Has the ice rebounded from one very low result in 2012? Sure.
Thank you.
Overall, based on the full range of consistent data that we have, is it
still on a downward trend?
If it is (it's not), then, so is this:

Loading Image...

Anything to show you're right (you're not), huh, narcissist?

============================================================================

You probably spend a small amount of time feeling sorry for Alan, but elated when this undeserved narcissist
starts spouting his hate and bile.

Have you ever wondered how to make a Alan, the narcissist, miserable and what makes him afraid or triggered?
(maybe for a second... then it's gone)

Just for the record, trying to make Alan, the narcissist, miserable might have its place for a short period
of time, but I don't recommend focusing on it for too long as this will inevitably get old.

But, if you need a quik fix, let's get into the top things all narcissists, like Alan, hate.

How to Make Alan, the narcissist, Miserable

Lack Of Acknowledgment: (filter on ignore)

Even though he KNOWS he's being ignored, he continues to reply, as if ANYONE really cares, other than
himself. THAT is narcissism.

It's no secret that most narcissists, like Alan, revel in admiration and validation (except for 'closet
narcissists', like Alan). Alan depends on constant approval to maintain his sense of intrinsic worth. To
achieve this goal, he TRIES to absorb (or steal) the energy of other people.

"Prove it."

Do you ever wonder why narcissists, like Alan, don't seem to mind the negative attention? It's because
negative attention also fuels his narcissistic fire.

ANY attention, even NEGATIVE attention, IS STILL ATTENTION, and any form of attention gives him the incentive
to keep going. It gives him the motivation to keep proving himself (by making others prove THEMSELVES.

In fact, he often likes negative attention better, because if you're still amused by his emotional crimes, he
can try to exploit this.

Therefore, a lack of acknowledgment is the real threat. To Alan, the narcissist, indifference is even more of
an issue than hatred. Alan's rather you have a negative opinion than have no opinion at all.

(sick fuck)

Narcissists, like Alan, can't stand it when no one is paying attention to him. Alan doesn't know how to feel
important or special if he isn't the center of the universe or consuming someone's thoughts. This is also why
the traditional Grey Rock method is often pointless and why complete avoidance is the best route (or extreme
modified contact... just ignore the sick fuck).

When People Speak Factually:

Have you ever paid close attention to how Alan, the narcissist, speaks? He ALWAYS trying to belittle those he
THINKS are below his station.

Additionally, through the use of cognitive empathy, he's spent his entire life observing the emotional
language of other people, ESPECIALLY RUSSIAN SPORTS OFFICIALS and using it to his advantage. So, when you
speak in facts instead of using emotion, he intuitively understands he has less of an upper hand.

Therefore, he hates it when someone challenges him with facts instead of emotion. Alan will usually retaliate
with more arguing or hysteria. PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT!

This childish response simply shows that he feel out-of-control. Alan's attempt to elevate the conversation's
intensity by throwing an emotional temper tantrum. PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE
IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT!

If anything, this dynamic only highlights the narcissist's immaturity. His inability to absorb facts
demonstrates his incompetence in approaching most adult interactions.

Authority:

Narcissists, like Alan, detest authority. That's because he resents having to answer to anybody but himself
(mommy orders him around, further compounding his anger).

"Ski lifts are closed... too much snow." Bu bu but snow is just a thing of the past, Alan says, even though
we're seeing snow levels we saw in the 70s, when CO² was MUCH lower.

Any sense of authority threatens his inherent desire for power and control. "You can't ski here, bunny."

While narcissists, like Alan, can be intelligent, he often come across as combative and unfit in professional
environments. If confronted by his inappropriate behavior, he tends to deny or rationalize his part. PROVE
IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT!

Of course, it's no surprise that most authority figures dislike working with narcissists, like Alan.
Supervisors (LOL) find him unruly and unreasonable.

Alan can't understand why the person can't follow basic directions without such volatile reactions.

Being Told No:

Of all things, Alan, the narcissist, hates being told no (and actually following through with it) tops the
list. Narcissists, like Alan, are used to manipulating and weaseling his way into getting what he wants.

Often, he'll pull all the stops to accomplish this task. He's spent his whole life charming people to meet
his needs.

That's why telling him no, and being adamant on your stance, often causes such an angry reaction. Alan, the
narcissist, isn't just upset about the denial - he's downright confused by it!

Narcissists, like Alan, can't actually fathom why someone would refuse him. Because he lacks real empathy, he
can't understand what must be going on in your mind. Moreover, even if he tries to comprehend it, he refuses
to accept this reality.

Implementing Consequences:

Have you ever tried to set a boundary with Alan, the narcissist,? How well did it go? Most likely, you tried
to implement a limit, and he reacted in one of three ways:

Dismissing you altogether and gas-lighting your feelings, acknowledging his mistake (LOL), and then doing
nothing to change.

Narcissists, like Alan, can't accept any real consequences. Alan can't see when he's wrong, and he can't
understand how someone would ever think he's wrong. And even if the narcissist understood this, he simply
wouldn't care. As a result, he tends to react disproportionately to boundaries and serious conversations as a
means to intimidate you and force you into compliance.

Unfortunately, many people simply give up on trying to implement consequences with narcissists, like Alan.

(filters set to ignorte)

Losing At Anything:

Narcissists, like Alan, can resemble toddlers, in that he tend to be extremely sore losers. Alan struggles to
accept losing, and he also tends to lash out when it happens. A few scenarios may occur:

Alan repeatedly proclaims a person on Usenet is incompetent. Alan's attempt to defame or humiliate the
winner. Alan pretends he didn't care about winning. Alan insists that he "let the other person" take the
spotlight. Alan refuses to accept that he lost and awkwardly acts as if he's the actual winner.

Public Humiliation:

Because narcissists, like Alan, are sore losers, he can't handle real or perceived public humiliation. Alan
just can't tolerate the threat of failure. To him, public humiliation is the ultimate form of defeat.

(and THAT'S why he HAS to be the last poster in a thread, if he has felt that he's been slighted, in the
least)

We all know that narcissists, like Alan, have incredibly fragile egos. When he believes someone is making fun
of him or if he's not the perceived expert or authority in a public setting, it jolts his existence. As a
result, he'll do anything to protect his fragile ego. Some common responses include:

Laughing it off in public only to lash out later

Making up lies about anyone who is a real expert. ("Dr. Ian Clark is not a REAL climatologist!!!")

Expectations of Commitment

Most narcissists, like Alan, are terrible with commitment. Although he believes he deserves all senses of
loyalty, he doesn't usually provide it himself. As a result, when he gets into relationships (mommy only), he
doesn't consider her needs. He's only accounting for his own emotions, impulses, and desires.

Unfortunately, his mother holds onto wistful hope about her narcissist changing. She listens to how the
narcissist praises and adores her. She holds onto fleeting promises that this time will be different.

Yet, Alan, the narcissist makes all the rules. Alan decides what he wants to do, and he does it when he wants
to do it. Therefore, he can break and change the rules in ways that suits him.

Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it! Prove it!

99% of Other People:

How many friends does your narcissist have? Probably very few (more like NONE). Usually, his only friends are
other people who validate his narcissism, like mommy.

Subsequently, how often do you hear Alan complain about other people? (ALL THE TIME) More times than you can
count, probably! That's because a single wrongdoing often results in lifetime resentment. One mistake
tarnishes an entire reputation.

Narcissists, like Alan, struggle to get along with anyone who doesn't fit into his falsified worldview. Alan
can't stand to be challenged. Alan can't tolerate the ideas that other people may know more than him.

If he's a cerebral narcissist, he is convinced that he is unique and should only associate with other special
or high-status individuals. In fact, when confronted with anything that contradicts his sense of god-like
stature, you can bet that his reaction will be explosive and malicious.

Therefore, narcissists, like Alan, can't tolerate people who actually live in reality. That's why you rarely
see people with strong boundaries tolerating narcissists, like Alan, for very long.

When You Change The Status Quo:

Narcissists, like Alan, hate change when it's out of his control. When you challenge Alan, the narcissist, he
remains in a defeating pattern full of resentment and frustration, lashing out to make himself feel dominate.

Prove it!

I did.
Dhu on Gate
2024-09-06 16:30:04 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
It's colder now. The trend shows it.
https://i.imgur.com/IzakqvO.png
No it is NOT.
It is warmer now than anytime in my life, which is > 50 years.

I've got a piece of newspaper (Ed Journ.) from that time somewheres
that certifies my having survived 2 months below 0 degrees Fahrenheit.
Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 13:58:21 -0700, Alan says...
It's putting your claim into a larger context.
We don't need or WANT a 50 year old trend, because that's not being honest.
You're not being honest: the Wierld was here before you were born
and likely will be after you're gone.

Dhu
Post by AlleyCat
If you look at the past 20 years, the last 50 are moot.
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Mittens Romney
2024-09-06 18:07:06 UTC
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Post by Dhu on Gate
Post by AlleyCat
It's colder now. The trend shows it.
https://i.imgur.com/IzakqvO.png
No it is NOT.
It is warmer now than anytime in my life, which is > 50 years.
Yes Canada has latitudinal shift up on temperatures occurring now.
Post by Dhu on Gate
I've got a piece of newspaper (Ed Journ.) from that time somewheres
that certifies my having survived 2 months below 0 degrees Fahrenheit.
Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 13:58:21 -0700, Alan says...
It's putting your claim into a larger context.
We don't need or WANT a 50 year old trend, because that's not being honest.
You're not being honest: the Wierld was here before you were born
and likely will be after you're gone.
Dhu
And it will experience yet anther solar micronova, as it does every
6,000 years, which will further reset the climate, and polar locations.
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Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-09-04 19:19:24 UTC
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Post by Alan
That depends on the question.
How'd you like your big talk self rearranged?

Let's meet up for poutine, you cowardly cuntbag.
Skeeter
2024-09-04 22:58:35 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:02:40 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Just answer the question.
I'll answer the question once I get a straight answer to mine.
You're such a fucking child.
And you're a pussy.
Post by AlleyCat
You want answers to your questions?
Yup.
Post by AlleyCat
Start your own threads. Prove my stuff wrong, then, if you have questions, ask them, but refute first.
It's not my job to prove you wrong. It's your job to support what you claim.
Oh the irony.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Asking questions is not refuting anything.
It certainly can be.
No. Holman does the same thing. It's called diverting.
That depends on the question.
No. You either have an answer or you don't.
Wow.
You can even follow what you were originally trying to assert.
and away he diverts
Alan
2024-09-04 23:45:47 UTC
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Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:02:40 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Just answer the question.
I'll answer the question once I get a straight answer to mine.
You're such a fucking child.
And you're a pussy.
Post by AlleyCat
You want answers to your questions?
Yup.
Post by AlleyCat
Start your own threads. Prove my stuff wrong, then, if you have questions, ask them, but refute first.
It's not my job to prove you wrong. It's your job to support what you claim.
Oh the irony.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Asking questions is not refuting anything.
It certainly can be.
No. Holman does the same thing. It's called diverting.
That depends on the question.
No. You either have an answer or you don't.
Wow.
You can even follow what you were originally trying to assert.
and away he diverts
Not at all.

You said that "Asking questions is not refuting anything".
Skeeter
2024-09-04 23:50:32 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:02:40 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Just answer the question.
I'll answer the question once I get a straight answer to mine.
You're such a fucking child.
And you're a pussy.
Post by AlleyCat
You want answers to your questions?
Yup.
Post by AlleyCat
Start your own threads. Prove my stuff wrong, then, if you have questions, ask them, but refute first.
It's not my job to prove you wrong. It's your job to support what you claim.
Oh the irony.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Asking questions is not refuting anything.
It certainly can be.
No. Holman does the same thing. It's called diverting.
That depends on the question.
No. You either have an answer or you don't.
Wow.
You can even follow what you were originally trying to assert.
and away he diverts
Not at all.
You said that "Asking questions is not refuting anything".
I did. So what?
Mittens Romney
2024-09-05 15:21:19 UTC
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Post by Alan
You said that "Asking questions is not refuting anything".
How'd you like your big talk self rearranged?

Let's meet up for poutine, you cowardly cuntbag.
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AlleyCat
2024-09-04 18:47:37 UTC
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:19:41 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Start your own threads. Prove my stuff wrong, then, if you have questions, ask them, but refute first.
It's not my job to prove you wrong.
Then...

https://i.imgur.com/ox3MfM8.mp4
Post by Alan
It's your job to support what you claim.
I "support" my claim with the post, you fucking faggot-kissing moron.

I've shown you the quotes by the liars who said we're going to have ice-free Arctic Sea Ice.

I guess you agree that they were wrong, since you never showed they didn't.

You forget that there's more to this quote than just the 75% part.

"2009: There is a 75% chance that the entire North Polar Ice Cap during some of the summer months could be
completely ice-free within the next five to seven years. You have sea ice, which is melting at a rate that
the Arctic Ocean now increasingly is exposed. In five years, scientists predict WE WILL HAVE THE FIRST ICE-
FREE ARCTIC SUMMER."

Not all of these quotes have "could be's" and "may be's".

June 8, 1972, Christian Science Monitor: "Arctic specialist Bernt Balchen says a general warming trend over
the North Pole is melting the polar ice cap and may produce an ice-free Arctic Ocean by the year 2000."

"A leading NASA ice scientist, Jay Zwally, said last year that the Arctic could be essentially ice-free
within "five to less than 10 years."

In 2007, academics and politicians started making predictions of an IMMINENT ice-free Arctic. The BBC said
the Arctic would be ice-free by 2013...

June 8, 1972, Christian Science Monitor: "Arctic specialist Bernt Balchen says a general warming trend over
the North Pole is melting the polar ice cap and may produce an ice-free Arctic Ocean by the year 2000."

The BBC in 2007: 'Their latest modelling indicates that northern polar waters could be ice-free in summers
within just 5-6 years.'

Professor Wieslaw Maslowski from the Department of Oceanography of the US Navy predicted an ice-free Arctic
Ocean by the summer of 2013.

"So once again, the bottom line is that the Arctic summer is too short, and there's no way to achieve an ice-
free Arctic. 16 years ago, the experts were wrong because they don't understand basic physics. But *I* get
accused of spreading misinformation every day because I provide accurate information about climate." - Tony
Heller

============================================================================

1) Russian Drought and Famine of 1601--03 Killing one-third of
the population.

2) India... Deccan drought and Famine of 1630 -- 32 An estimated
two million perished.

3) Chinese Drought and Famine of 1907 In a matter of months an
estimated 24 million people were killed. (California
drought... HA, he said sarcastically)

4) India Drought and Famine: Took place between 1896 and 1902,
claiming an estimated 19 million lives.

5) Bengal Drought and Famine of 1770 An estimated 15 million
perished in the Drought and Famine

6) Northern Chinese Drought and Famine Lasted from 1876 to 1879
and is believed to have killed 13 million people.

7) Indian Great Drought and Famine of 1876--78 This tragedy
that took the lives of as many as 10.3 million.

8) Russian Drought and Famine of 1921 It killed as many as 10
million.

9) Soviet Drought and Famine of 1932--33 Between seven and 10
million were killed

10) Great European Drought and Famine Creating the worst Drought
and Famine ever seen in Europe, the Great Drought and Famine
of 1315-1317, also known as the Great European Drought and
Famine, was actually a series of crises. The tragedy, that
killed an estimated 7.5 million people, was caused by
strange weather and unrelenting rains.

11) Bengal Drought and Famine of 1943 Killed between 1.4 and 4
million people

12) Chinese Drought and Famine of 1928--30 Killed an estimated
three million people over the three-year span.

13) Chinese Drought 1941 An estimated three million perished.

14) Vietnamese Drought and Famine of 1945 Overall, between
400,000 and two million perished as a result.

15) Bangladesh Drought and Famine of 1974 Estimates state
between 26,000 and one million perished in the disaster.

16) 1984--85 Drought and Famine in Ethiopia Killed an estimated
one million people in the region.

17) Horn of Africa Drought and Famine Over one million
reportedly died during that time in the areas of Ethiopia,
Sudan and Somalia.

18) Finnish Drought and Famine of 1866--68 Killed between 15 and
20 percent of the population in the area or roughly 150,000
people.

19) Great Irish Drought and Famine One million in fatalities and
another one million in residents who emigrated as a result.
AlleyCat
2024-09-04 18:49:28 UTC
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:19:41 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
You're such a fucking child.
And you're a pussy.
I am what I eat, Dick.

============================================================================================================

Gay Narcissistic Personality Disorder And Gay Alan

Gay Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition often erroneously mistaken for overconfidence or
conceitedness.

Sufferers will often monopolize conversations, BELITTLE OTHERS, freely express their sense of SUPERIORITY and
ENTITLEMENT and BECOME DEPRESSED, ANGRY and ABUSIVE in the face of perceived criticism which raises feelings
of insecurity and shame.

There is a theory that gay men, like Alan, may be particularly susceptible to narcissistic personality
disorder(BINGO!), as a result of subconscious feelings of intense inadequacy, for which narcissism is an
over-compensation.

Counseling for gay men can offer the opportunity to discuss and resolve these issues. Unresolved, the
symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder can have serious consequences, in terms of failure to form
meaningful relationships, build friendships, develop careers and...

...GETTING BANNED FROM ALL USENET SERVERS.

Common indicators

Criteria for diagnosing narcissistic personality disorder are generally considered to be an exaggerated sense
of self-importance, feeling superior and expecting to be considered superior by others, exaggerating
achievements, fantasizing about spectacular successes, demanding constant admiration and compliance, taking
advantage of others while struggling to recognize their needs and feelings, believing they are envied by
others and generally behaving arrogantly. Psychotherapy and counseling for gay men, like Alan, can help open
the process of exploring issues that underlie these responses.

When to seek help

Often people experiencing narcissistic personality disorder put off seeking clinical intervention. Their
erroneous self-perception as powerful and perfect isolates them from others including medical professionals,
and they generally only seek treatment when they experience associated symptoms of depression, as a result of
perceived slights or rejections with which they struggle to cope.

Early medical intervention

If you recognize personality traits that are common to narcissistic personality disorder, or you're
experiencing depression, anxiety or a disabling sadness, you should consider contacting your own doctor to
discuss these feelings and related concerns, or contacting an experienced counselor or psychiatrist in London
who may be able to offer insight, perspective and the counseling that allows you to confront this life-
limiting condition. Getting appropriate treatment could make your life more rewarding and enjoyable.
Alan
2024-09-04 18:55:05 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:19:41 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
You're such a fucking child.
And you're a pussy.
I am what I eat, Dick.
You're a cannibal who only eats barely post-pubescent boys, then?
Skeeter
2024-09-04 22:58:56 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:19:41 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
You're such a fucking child.
And you're a pussy.
I am what I eat, Dick.
You're a cannibal who only eats barely post-pubescent boys, then?
and this is how the loony libs respond.
And that is how you fail to understand why that's funny.
It's all you loons have.
AlleyCat
2024-09-04 19:00:10 UTC
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:19:56 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Just answer the question.
I'll answer the question once I get a straight answer to mine.
:-)
You were asked first. Stop running.
Actually, no.
I asked him first.
Refute this first and I'll consider answering, faggot-1.

I "support" my claim with the post, you fucking faggot-kissing moron.

I've shown you the quotes by the liars who said we're going to have ice-free Arctic Sea Ice.

I guess you agree that they were wrong, since you never showed they didn't.

You forget that there's more to this quote than just the 75% part.

"2009: There is a 75% chance that the entire North Polar Ice Cap during some of the summer months could be
completely ice-free within the next five to seven years. You have sea ice, which is melting at a rate that
the Arctic Ocean now increasingly is exposed. In five years, scientists predict WE WILL HAVE THE FIRST ICE-
FREE ARCTIC SUMMER."

Not all of these quotes have "could be's" and "may be's".

June 8, 1972, Christian Science Monitor: "Arctic specialist Bernt Balchen says a general warming trend over
the North Pole is melting the polar ice cap and may produce an ice-free Arctic Ocean by the year 2000."

"A leading NASA ice scientist, Jay Zwally, said last year that the Arctic could be essentially ice-free
within "five to less than 10 years."

In 2007, academics and politicians started making predictions of an IMMINENT ice-free Arctic. The BBC said
the Arctic would be ice-free by 2013...

June 8, 1972, Christian Science Monitor: "Arctic specialist Bernt Balchen says a general warming trend over
the North Pole is melting the polar ice cap and may produce an ice-free Arctic Ocean by the year 2000."

The BBC in 2007: 'Their latest modelling indicates that northern polar waters could be ice-free in summers
within just 5-6 years.'

Professor Wieslaw Maslowski from the Department of Oceanography of the US Navy predicted an ice-free Arctic
Ocean by the summer of 2013.

"So once again, the bottom line is that the Arctic summer is too short, and there's no way to achieve an ice-
free Arctic. 16 years ago, the experts were wrong because they don't understand basic physics. But *I* get
accused of spreading misinformation every day because I provide accurate information about climate." - Tony
Heller

============================================================================

1) Russian Drought and Famine of 1601--03 Killing one-third of
the population.

2) India... Deccan drought and Famine of 1630 -- 32 An estimated
two million perished.

3) Chinese Drought and Famine of 1907 In a matter of months an
estimated 24 million people were killed. (California
drought... HA, he said sarcastically)

4) India Drought and Famine: Took place between 1896 and 1902,
claiming an estimated 19 million lives.

5) Bengal Drought and Famine of 1770 An estimated 15 million
perished in the Drought and Famine

6) Northern Chinese Drought and Famine Lasted from 1876 to 1879
and is believed to have killed 13 million people.

7) Indian Great Drought and Famine of 1876--78 This tragedy
that took the lives of as many as 10.3 million.

8) Russian Drought and Famine of 1921 It killed as many as 10
million.

9) Soviet Drought and Famine of 1932--33 Between seven and 10
million were killed

10) Great European Drought and Famine Creating the worst Drought
and Famine ever seen in Europe, the Great Drought and Famine
of 1315-1317, also known as the Great European Drought and
Famine, was actually a series of crises. The tragedy, that
killed an estimated 7.5 million people, was caused by
strange weather and unrelenting rains.

11) Bengal Drought and Famine of 1943 Killed between 1.4 and 4
million people

12) Chinese Drought and Famine of 1928--30 Killed an estimated
three million people over the three-year span.

13) Chinese Drought 1941 An estimated three million perished.

14) Vietnamese Drought and Famine of 1945 Overall, between
400,000 and two million perished as a result.

15) Bangladesh Drought and Famine of 1974 Estimates state
between 26,000 and one million perished in the disaster.

16) 1984--85 Drought and Famine in Ethiopia Killed an estimated
one million people in the region.

17) Horn of Africa Drought and Famine Over one million
reportedly died during that time in the areas of Ethiopia,
Sudan and Somalia.

18) Finnish Drought and Famine of 1866--68 Killed between 15 and
20 percent of the population in the area or roughly 150,000
people.

19) Great Irish Drought and Famine One million in fatalities and
another one million in residents who emigrated as a result.
AlleyCat
2024-09-04 17:50:50 UTC
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On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 19:38:23 -0700, Alan says...
On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 09:26:10 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
Is man responsible for that... you know... since the ice has melted before with nearly HALF the CO² levels we
have now?
Is that a "yes"?
I'll take THAT as a "yes".

==============================================================================

And YOU want THIS to be President:


https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/us-vice-president-kamala-harris-attempts-to-explain-ai-in-latest-word-
salad-gaffe-kind-of-a-fancy-thing/news-story/96539b79b23be7b45ba66db72c5fbd34

"This is the most election of our lifetime."

I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been. You know?

What can be unburdened by what has been.

There are those who are unable to see what can be.

But there are many more who are able to see what can be unburdened by what has been.

Remember Venn diagrams, those three circles? Right.

And then let's just see where they overlap.

You will not be surprised because I have constructed a Venn diagram on this.

Remember those three circles, how they overlap?

I love Venn diagrams. So, I just do.

Whenever you're dealing with conflict, pull out a Venn diagram. Right?

And so, you know, the three circles.

Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country.
Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So, basically,
that's wrong.

I am Kamala Harris. My pronouns are she, her, hers. My pronouns sitting at the table wearing a blue suit.

"We invested an additional $12 billion into community banks, because we know community banks are in the
community, and understand the needs and desires of that community as well as the talent and capacity of
community."

"We also recognize just as it has been in the United States, for Jamaica, one of the issues that has been
presented as an issue that is economic in the way of its impact has been the pandemic. So to that end, we are
announcing today also that we will assist Jamaica in COVID recovery by assisting in terms of the recovery
efforts in Jamaica that have been essential to, I believe, what is necessary to strengthen not only the issue
of public health but also the economy."

"It's time for us to do what we have been doing, and that time is every day."

"I think that, to be very honest with you, I do believe that we should have rightly believed, but we
certainly believe that certain issues are just settled. Certain issues are just settled."
AlleyCat
2024-09-04 18:37:06 UTC
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:53:58 -0700, Alan says...
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 19:38:23 -0700, Alan says...
On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 09:26:10 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
Is man responsible for that... you know... since the ice has melted before with nearly HALF the CO² levels we
have now?
Is that a "yes"?
I'll take THAT as a "yes".
Why are you so afraid to answer a simple question, Pussey?
Look who's fucking talking.

I'll answer your question when you refute the FACT that Arctic Sea Ice has rebounded, AFTER the downward
trend, which NEVER shows what ice is doing in REAL time.

You can have a downward trend for 20 years and THEN an upward trend of the exact same rate for 19, and there
would STILL be a "downward" trend for those 39 years.

How fucking dishonest and contrived.

THAT'S what pussies like you hide behind. You say the trend is still downward, but the latest data shows it's
going up, but the child in you still screeches, NOOOOO... over that 39 year period, it still shows a downward
trend!!"

Disingenuous little faggot... you never think I know what you're doing.

I get it right, every time, and that's what bothers you most... I know all your childish bullshit antics,
which are disingenuous at best.

Poor narcissists. They're so fucking wrapped up inside themselves, that they can't see how fucking
transparent they really are.

============================================================================================================

Why Do People With Narcissistic Personality Disorder Play Games?

At times, it may appear that the goal of someone living with NPD is to get their needs met, which may involve
other people who consciously and unconsciously help them achieve that end, says Dena DiNardo, PhD, a clinical
psychologist in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

"These 'games' are strategic manipulations," she adds. "Often, they're completely unconscious. People having
trouble with this level of narcissism are usually in such deep pain that their ability to empathetically
connect with the pain of others is low."

What games do people with narcissistic personality disorder play?

Those who live with NPD often HAVE LOW SELF-ESTEEM.

As a result, many games they play may revolve around maintaining a sense of control, so they don't have to be
confronted with the shame that they may feel inside.

This is why Ski Bunny can't post his own shit.

"People with narcissistic personality disorder tend to use strategies to gain power and control over the
individual in order to assert superiority and/or dominance over them," says Rahmah Albugami, a licensed
professional counselor in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. "In this way, they get their needs met TO BOOST THEIR
EGOS, VALUE, AND SELF-ESTEEM."

Poor Ski Bunny. :-(

Some common games someone with narcissistic personality disorder might engage in include:

blame shifting
deception
gaslighting
ghosting
playing the victim
projection

While these games may be common for someone with NPD, not everyone who plays them will have this condition or
another personality disorder.

How can you recognize when games are being played?

Becoming more familiar with these games may help you spot them in action and set appropriate personal
boundaries.

Gaslighting:

Gaslighting refers to denying the truth of a situation as you saw or heard it, which can confuse your sense
of reality. They may be trying to avoid getting caught for something by turning it back around on you.

"One of the most common things to look out for are if you're constantly questioning yourself," says Albugami.

Revenge:

Having a fragile sense of self is not uncommon for someone with NPD.

If you call them out on their behaviors, it may create a narcissistic rage or injury. Rather than sit with
the difficult emotion and self-reflect, they may instead externalize the agony they feel in the form of
revenge.
Mittens Romney
2024-09-04 19:20:50 UTC
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Why are you so afraid to answer a simple question, Pussey?
How'd you like your big talk self rearranged?

Let's meet up for poutine, you cowardly cuntbag.
--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪
AlleyCat
2024-09-04 17:50:55 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 19:38:23 -0700, Alan says...
On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 09:26:10 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres in
1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?
Is man responsible for that... you know... since the ice has melted before with nearly HALF the CO² levels we
have now?
Is that a "yes"?
Is THAT a <<yes>>??

=====

August:

Early Snows Hit Kyrgyzstan

Eastern U.S. Fells Cold Records, 150 Million To See Fall-Like Temps

UK's Coolest Summer Since 2015

First Significant Snows Forecast For The Alps

150 Years Of Antarctic Ice Data Reveals Decline In Wildfires Since 1920

Arizona Sees August Snow

Europe Forecast Stark Temperature Drop

Thousands Without Power In Tasmania As Cold And Snow Intensify

Foot Of Snow Closes Going-To-The-Sun Road

Rare August Snow Clips Montana's Peaks

Earth's Oceans Are Cooling Fast, And Scientists Have Yet To Come Up With A Party-Approved Reason Why

Snow In Wyoming And Colorado

August Snow Has U.S. Resorts Planning For Winter

Rare Snow And Century-Old Cold Records Fall In California

Rare August Chill Breaks Decades-Old Records

Rare August Snow For The Sierra Nevada

The Atlantic's Rapid Cooling

Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand's South Island

Record Summer Chills Sweep The Great Lakes, Northeast, and Southern Canada

Where Are The Hurricanes? Another Crushing Defeat For Team Climate Change

Antarctica Registers -75.5C (-103.9F), Sea Ice Surges

Winter Far From Over In New Zealand

Historical "Heatwave Days" Show No Trend

Researchers Pumped Extra CO2 Into A Forest, And Biodiversity Thrived

Low Temperature Records Fall In U.S.

Frosts Persist In South America, Impacting Coffee Prices

Island Nations Like Tuvalu: Growing, Not Sinking

Record Cold Sweeps Brazil

Antarctica Back Below -70C (-94F)

Summer Snowfall at Khardungla Pass

Polar Bear And Arctic Sea Ice Lies Persist

Polar Fronts To Hit South America

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Gains 1 Million Km2 In A Week

Frigid Winter Forecast For NH

Vast Cold Wave About To Sweep The U.S.
Greek Study Challenges CO2-Temperature Causality
Arctic Shipping Season Is Shortening
Rapid Antarctic Sea Ice Growth
Heavy Snow Hits New Zealand
Too Many Polar Bears In Greenland
British Farmers Paid To NOT Produce Food
Record July Cold Hits Scotland
Summer To Quit Early This Year
Remarkable Summer Gains On The Greenland Ice Sheet
Arctic Sea Ice Extent: No Cause For Alarm
$78 Trillion To Fight The Hoax of 'Climate Crisis'
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