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A plan to liquidate northern Gaza is gaining steam
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NefeshBarYochai
2024-09-18 02:56:01 UTC
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As Israeli ministers, generals, and academics bay for a decisive new
phase in the war, this is what Operation Starvation and Extermination
would look like.

By Meron Rapoport

September 17, 2024

https://www.972mag.com/northern-gaza-liquidation-scenario-eiland-rabi/
a425couple
2024-09-18 17:13:30 UTC
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Post by NefeshBarYochai
As Israeli ministers, generals, and academics bay for a decisive new
phase in the war,
Just think of how things would be different if in 1947 the
Palestinians had accepted the UN and UK offered Partition Plan.
They would now have had over 75 years progress on their own
independent and free country. They could have used pipes
to build irrigation lines rather than rockets. They could
have used concrete to build resorts and hospitals and schools
rather than terrorist tunnels. But, no, sadly they sadly decided
they would not compromise and share the land. They decided
they needed to have it all for themselves. They decided to
fight.

Or, how about if they had decided to accept POTUS Bill Clinton's
2000 offer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit#:~:text=The%20proposal%20demanded%20any%20territory,narrow%20strip%20of%20Israeli%20land.

"Clinton's initiative led to the Taba negotiations in January 2001,
where the two sides published a statement saying they had never been
closer to agreement

Clinton blamed Arafat after the failure of the talks, stating, "I regret
that in 2000 Arafat missed the opportunity to bring that nation into
being and pray for the day when the dreams of the Palestinian people for
a state and a better life will be realized in a just and lasting peace."
The failure to come to an agreement was widely attributed to Yasser
Arafat, as he walked away from the table without making a concrete
counter-offer and because Arafat did little to quell the series of
Palestinian riots that began shortly after the summit.[56][57][58]
Arafat was also accused of scuttling the talks by Nabil Amr, a former
minister in the Palestinian Authority.[59] In My Life, Clinton wrote
that Arafat once complimented Clinton by telling him, "You are a great
man." Clinton responded, "I am not a great man. I am a failure, and you
made me one."[60]

Ross also quoted Saudi Prince Bandar as saying while negotiations were
taking place: "If Arafat does not accept what is available now, it won't
be a tragedy; it will be a crime."[62]
citizen winston smith
2024-09-18 18:20:32 UTC
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In My Life, Clinton wrote that Arafat once complimented Clinton by
telling him, "You are a great man." Clinton responded, "I am not a great
man. I am a failure, and you made me one."
Typical Demotard blaming others for his own inability to articulate and
maintain negotiation points.

Of course his wife is no better, still blaming Trump for her 2016 loss.
NefeshBarYochai
2024-09-19 00:52:13 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 10:13:30 -0700, a425couple
Post by a425couple
Post by NefeshBarYochai
As Israeli ministers, generals, and academics bay for a decisive new
phase in the war,
Just think of how things would be different if in 1947 the
Palestinians had accepted the UN and UK offered Partition Plan.
They would now have had over 75 years progress on their own
independent and free country. They could have used pipes
to build irrigation lines rather than rockets. They could
have used concrete to build resorts and hospitals and schools
rather than terrorist tunnels. But, no, sadly they sadly decided
they would not compromise and share the land. They decided
they needed to have it all for themselves. They decided to
fight.
In 1947, they were asked to sign a treaty giving away to European and
American Jews half the land they had lived on for generations. If the
Jewish people needed a homeland, the Allies after WWII should have cut
off a piece of Germany and given that to them.
Post by a425couple
Or, how about if they had decided to accept POTUS Bill Clinton's
2000 offer?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit#:~:text=The%20proposal%20demanded%20any%20territory,narrow%20strip%20of%20Israeli%20land.
"Clinton's initiative led to the Taba negotiations in January 2001,
where the two sides published a statement saying they had never been
closer to agreement
Clinton blamed Arafat after the failure of the talks, stating, "I regret
that in 2000 Arafat missed the opportunity to bring that nation into
being and pray for the day when the dreams of the Palestinian people for
a state and a better life will be realized in a just and lasting peace."
The failure to come to an agreement was widely attributed to Yasser
Arafat, as he walked away from the table without making a concrete
counter-offer and because Arafat did little to quell the series of
Palestinian riots that began shortly after the summit.[56][57][58]
Arafat was also accused of scuttling the talks by Nabil Amr, a former
that Arafat once complimented Clinton by telling him, "You are a great
man." Clinton responded, "I am not a great man. I am a failure, and you
made me one."[60]
Ross also quoted Saudi Prince Bandar as saying while negotiations were
taking place: "If Arafat does not accept what is available now, it won't
be a tragedy; it will be a crime."[62]
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