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AlleyCat
2024-05-10 01:59:20 UTC
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EV Car CEO Says Demand For EVs Has "Dried Up" And Calls Plans To Phase Out Gas-
Powered Cars By 2035 "Barmy."

https://telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/05/09/delay-petrol-ban-beyond-2035-says-
sir-jim-ratcliffe

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNLpCC3WYAAow1w?format=jpg&name=large

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Delay Petrol Ban Beyond 2035, Says Sir Jim Radcliff

Billionaire Calls For Relaxing of Net Zero Laws As Demand For Electric Cars
'Dries Up'

Sir Jim Ratcliffe has called for the ban on all petrol car sales to be delayed
beyond 2035, as the British industrial tycoon warned that demand for electric
vehicles (EVs) has "dried up".

The billionaire behind petrochemicals giant Ineos is lobbying the UK Government
to relax net zero laws so that low-emission vehicles can be sold even after the
planned cut-off point, as an "interim" step towards cleaner technologies.

This could include electric cars fitted with petrol-powered range extenders as
well as plug-in hybrids that rely on their batteries most of the time.

Sir Jim's intervention comes amid a wave of criticism of the Government's net
zero stance from some of the world's biggest carmakers, including Ford and the
owner of Vauxhall.

It is understood that the tycoon's car brand, Ineos Automotive, which is itself
preparing to launch an EV with a range-extender, has held meetings with the
Government about the issue.

Writing for The Telegraph, Sir Jim blames consumer "range anxiety" - the fear
they will run out of battery and be unable to charge - for a slowdown in EV
sales, arguing that plans to make carmakers go all-electric by 2035 are
"barmy".

The 71-year-old, whose empire includes Manchester United football club as well
as the Grangemouth oil refinery, a major supplier of petrol, adds: "Electric is
fine and dandy for the short local journey, but should you decide to head off
for the hills, forget it.

"And hence demand has dried up."

He also claims switching road transport from fossil fuels to electric "is not
like flipping a light switch", and that alternatives to EVs such as hydrogen
fuel cells should be considered, adding: "There needs to be a transition period
between fossil fuels and green fuels.

"The interim solution today which serves the need of the consumer is either the
hybrid or electric vehicle with range extender.

"This is not the politician's utopian world, but it serves the consumer well
and maintains a very positive trajectory towards zero emissions during this
transitional phase."

Ineos Automotive was founded in 2018 and currently represents less than 0.1pc
of UK car sales, making it comparable in size to Maserati, according to
industry data.

But Sir Jim's intervention is the most direct challenge to the UK's 2035 ban on
new petrol car sales so far by a manufacturer, at a time when others are also
voicing dissent.

In recent weeks, major carmakers including Volkswagen, Ford and Vauxhall owner
Stellantis have publicly vented their frustration at laws requiring them to
sell ever-higher proportions of EVs regardless of consumer demand.

Carlos Tavares, chief executive of Stellantis, claimed measures such as the
UK's zero emission vehicle (ZEV) mandate were "crashing into reality" as sales
of EVs stall across Europe.

Both he and Martin Sander, general manager of Ford's European electric car
business, also warned their companies could be forced to sell fewer cars in
Britain in order to comply with the legislation and avoid fines, a move that
could potentially push up prices for consumers.

However, on Wednesday a senior car industry source suggested most manufacturers
were likely to be against further changes to the 2035 ban, arguing that Rishi
Sunak's decision to delay the move had already given consumers an impression
"they don't need to worry about EVs".

It came as both BMW and Volkswagen urged the European Union not impose tariffs
on Chinese EVs on Wednesday, amid a rift between Germany and France over how to
tackle an expected wave of cheap exports.

Oliver Zipse, chairman of BMW Group, claimed fears about an onslaught of
Chinese EV arriving on the Continent were overblown and that imposing
restrictions flew in the face of free trade.

He pointed to the operations of foreign carmakers in China, which is BMW's
biggest market, and warned that getting into a tit-for-tat trade war would
"harm German industry much more than the other way around".

Hours later, Thomas Schäfer, brand chief executive for Volkswagen, echoed his
concerns, warning that putting tariffs in place would inevitably trigger
"retaliation" from Beijing.

Their comments come as an EU investigation into alleged subsidies provided to
Chinese manufacturers rumbles on, with officials expected to report back in the
summer.

European capitals remain split on the prospect of tariffs, with Germany
expressing caution and France adopting a tougher position.

But Mr Zipse said: "We have very good market access in China. And in the other
way around, if all of a sudden we're trying to close down the borders, because
we're so afraid. This is not what free trade is about.

"I think we have a right to be self confident and don't be so afraid, as the
European Union currently is."

Separately, figures from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT)
showed a surge of second-hand EVs entered the market in the first three months
of 2024.

The industry group said the number of used EV sales leapt 71pc to 41,505,
causing the electric segment to reach a record market share of 2.1pc.

Hybrids also sold in greater volumes, posting a 49pc rise to 74,502 sales, with
plug-ins enjoying a 43pc rise to 22,065.

A Department for Transport spokesman said: "The Government has already delayed
the phase out of petrol and diesel engines to 2035, to allow time for consumers
to make the choice to switch to electric.

"Many EVs already have a range of over 300 miles and demand continues to grow,
with a higher volume of EVs sold in March this year than ever before.

"We're addressing range anxiety by rolling out more public charging points than
ever before - with 44pc more this month than last year."
Related Topics

=====

May:

Heavy May Snow Hits the Sierra Nevada

Concordia Below -70C (-94F) for 10-Days

Cooling In The Tropical Pacific

Vostok's Coldest April Since 1999

Global Temperature Expected To Fall In May

Tonga Eruption Responsible For Toasty 2023 (nyah nyah!)

Missing Spring In Jackson, WY

Cool Summer Forecast For Much Of The Northern Hemisphere

Record May Cold Sweeps India

Rare April Cold Hits Antarctica (-112F)

Heavy Spring Snow Traps 1,000 Vehicles In Northern India

Wild Swings In New Jersey

The Wind Didn't Blow As Hard In 2023

April:

(An end of snow) Avalanche Hits Kashmir
Mid-May Frosts Forecast For Europe
Prairies Plantings To See Snow Delay
UK Breaks Long-Standing Cold Record
Heavy Spring Snow Sweeps Northern India
Antarctica To -77C (-106.6F)
Another Meter Of Snow Hits The Alps
Europe's Crop Losses Worsen - "The Biggest Disaster Of The Last 100 Years"
Frost Damage Reported From France To Ukraine
Growers In Canada And Northeast Also Suffer
Australia To Shiver Into May, Defying BoM Predictions
Record Cold Strikes Northern Ontario
Rare April Snow Continues Across Europe
Europe Breaks Historic Low Temperature Records As Rare Spring Snow Falls on
Major Cities
Norwegian Ski Resort on For Bumper Summer Season
Europe Freezes
No Spring In Sight For Much of Russia
Temperatures Are Falling Globally
Feet of Spring Snow Pound Colorado
U.S. Braces For Record April Cold
Socal's Back-To-Back Bumper Snow Seasons
Cold And Snow To Persist Into May Across Europe
Scabbard on For Cold April
Switzerland's Snow Matches Historic 1974-75 Season
Heavy Snow Slams Northwestern Iran
Europe Braces For Spring Freeze
Another Three Avalanche Deaths In The Alps
Indian State Suffers Coldest April Day on Record
Today's Arctic Sea Ice Extent Matches 1996
Snow Remains In Northern India
54 Spots
NZ's Record-Cold March
Rare April Snow Hits Bay Area
More Snow For Midwest/New
Scandinavia Extends Historic Cold Spell, As Europe Sets Snow Records
Feet Of Spring Snow Pound Colorado
Southern Cal's Back-To-Back Bumper Snow Seasons
Svalbard On For Cold April
Indian State Suffers Coldest April Day On Record
The Arctic Was Warmer In The 1920s
Germany Regrets Disbanding Nuclear Plants, It Was A "Mistake"
Yukon Snowpack Breaks Records
Early Snows Hit Australia's Ski Fields
It's Still Snowing On Kilimanjaro... Al Gore Was Wrong (as usual)
Alyeska Exceeds 700 Inches
Rare April Snow Hits Boise
Montreal's Snowiest April Since 2010
Clearing Crews Reach Baralacha
Antarctica At -75.8C (-104.4F)
Alta Posts Rare Back-To-Back 600+ Inch Winters
Indian Army Rescues 80 Trapped By Spring Snowfall
Remarkable Antarctic Sea Ice Recovery
April Nor'Easter Drops Feet Of Snow
600,000 Lose Power As 'Spring' Storm Batters Quebec
Avalanche Hits Helicopter In The Alps, Killing 3
Scandinavia Breaks Historic Low Temperature Stretch
New Zealand's Record-Cold March
Rare April Snow To Dust Bay Area Peaks
More Snow For The Midwest/Northeast
Scandinavia Extends Spell Of Historic April Cold, As Europe's Mountain Snow
reaks Records
Sweden Sets Coldest April Temperature
Swiss Avalanche Kills 3
Utah Snowpack At 132%, California Defies The 'Experts'
Anchorage Only 6.3" Away From All-Time Record
Colder-Than-Average March At Vostok
Antarctica Dips Below -100F
"Significant Spring Snowstorm" Takes Aim At Canada/Northern US
April Snow Builds Across Europe's Higher Elevations
R Kym Horsell
2024-05-10 03:10:32 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
EV Car CEO Says Demand For EVs Has "Dried Up" And Calls Plans To Phase Out Gas-
Powered Cars By 2035 "Barmy."
...

LOL.
After less than 200y they are gunna phase themselves out.
Known oil reserves dry up around mid cent.
We can imagine gasoline prices will be $100s per gal well before then.
--
World Oil Statistics
The world consumes 35,442,913,090 barrels of oil as of the year 2016,
equivalent to 97,103,871 barrels per day. \xb7 Global oil consumption per
capita is 5 barrels ...
Oil Reserves: 1,650,585,140,000
Oil Consumption: 35,442,913,090
Reserves/Consumption: 47 <== years left i.e. 2016+47 == 2063
-- Worldometer

Don't worry, we'll never run out of oil
Interesting Engineering, 9 Nov 2022
That being said, at current consumption, we have by some accounts an
estimated 47 years of oil left to be extracted. That equates to somewhere in
the region of 1.65 trillion barrels of proven oil reserves. Other sources up
this estimate a bit, but most agree we have around 50 years left, give or take.
JTEM
2024-05-10 10:44:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by R Kym Horsell
Post by AlleyCat
EV Car CEO Says Demand For EVs Has "Dried Up" And Calls Plans To Phase Out Gas-
Powered Cars By 2035 "Barmy."
LOL.
After less than 200y they are gunna phase themselves out.
Known oil reserves dry up around mid cent.
We can imagine gasoline prices will be $100s per gal well before then.
The economy is sliding into the shitter.

EVs are over priced and inconvenient.

But, in the end it'll come down to poverty and the
culling. That's what will conserve fuel enough to
keep the private jets flying.

Enjoy eating your bugs! Assuming, of course, you'll
be able to afford them.
--
https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
Alan
2024-05-10 16:56:01 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
EV Car CEO Says Demand For EVs Has "Dried Up" And Calls Plans To Phase Out Gas-
Powered Cars By 2035 "Barmy."
You mean the CEO of a "petrochemicals giant" which has an arm which has
only produced a copy of a Land Rover Defender and which is PLANNING an
"EV Car", don't you?

:-)
Post by AlleyCat
https://telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/05/09/delay-petrol-ban-beyond-2035-says-
sir-jim-ratcliffe
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNLpCC3WYAAow1w?format=jpg&name=large
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Delay Petrol Ban Beyond 2035, Says Sir Jim Radcliff
Billionaire Calls For Relaxing of Net Zero Laws As Demand For Electric Cars
'Dries Up'
Sir Jim Ratcliffe has called for the ban on all petrol car sales to be delayed
beyond 2035, as the British industrial tycoon warned that demand for electric
vehicles (EVs) has "dried up".
The billionaire behind petrochemicals giant Ineos is lobbying the UK Government
to relax net zero laws so that low-emission vehicles can be sold even after the
planned cut-off point, as an "interim" step towards cleaner technologies.
This could include electric cars fitted with petrol-powered range extenders as
well as plug-in hybrids that rely on their batteries most of the time.
Sir Jim's intervention comes amid a wave of criticism of the Government's net
zero stance from some of the world's biggest carmakers, including Ford and the
owner of Vauxhall.
It is understood that the tycoon's car brand, Ineos Automotive, which is itself
preparing to launch an EV with a range-extender, has held meetings with the
Government about the issue.
Writing for The Telegraph, Sir Jim blames consumer "range anxiety" - the fear
they will run out of battery and be unable to charge - for a slowdown in EV
sales, arguing that plans to make carmakers go all-electric by 2035 are
"barmy".
The 71-year-old, whose empire includes Manchester United football club as well
as the Grangemouth oil refinery, a major supplier of petrol, adds: "Electric is
fine and dandy for the short local journey, but should you decide to head off
for the hills, forget it.
"And hence demand has dried up."
He also claims switching road transport from fossil fuels to electric "is not
like flipping a light switch", and that alternatives to EVs such as hydrogen
fuel cells should be considered, adding: "There needs to be a transition period
between fossil fuels and green fuels.
"The interim solution today which serves the need of the consumer is either the
hybrid or electric vehicle with range extender.
"This is not the politician's utopian world, but it serves the consumer well
and maintains a very positive trajectory towards zero emissions during this
transitional phase."
Ineos Automotive was founded in 2018 and currently represents less than 0.1pc
of UK car sales, making it comparable in size to Maserati, according to
industry data.
But Sir Jim's intervention is the most direct challenge to the UK's 2035 ban on
new petrol car sales so far by a manufacturer, at a time when others are also
voicing dissent.
In recent weeks, major carmakers including Volkswagen, Ford and Vauxhall owner
Stellantis have publicly vented their frustration at laws requiring them to
sell ever-higher proportions of EVs regardless of consumer demand.
Carlos Tavares, chief executive of Stellantis, claimed measures such as the
UK's zero emission vehicle (ZEV) mandate were "crashing into reality" as sales
of EVs stall across Europe.
Both he and Martin Sander, general manager of Ford's European electric car
business, also warned their companies could be forced to sell fewer cars in
Britain in order to comply with the legislation and avoid fines, a move that
could potentially push up prices for consumers.
However, on Wednesday a senior car industry source suggested most manufacturers
were likely to be against further changes to the 2035 ban, arguing that Rishi
Sunak's decision to delay the move had already given consumers an impression
"they don't need to worry about EVs".
It came as both BMW and Volkswagen urged the European Union not impose tariffs
on Chinese EVs on Wednesday, amid a rift between Germany and France over how to
tackle an expected wave of cheap exports.
Oliver Zipse, chairman of BMW Group, claimed fears about an onslaught of
Chinese EV arriving on the Continent were overblown and that imposing
restrictions flew in the face of free trade.
He pointed to the operations of foreign carmakers in China, which is BMW's
biggest market, and warned that getting into a tit-for-tat trade war would
"harm German industry much more than the other way around".
Hours later, Thomas Schäfer, brand chief executive for Volkswagen, echoed his
concerns, warning that putting tariffs in place would inevitably trigger
"retaliation" from Beijing.
Their comments come as an EU investigation into alleged subsidies provided to
Chinese manufacturers rumbles on, with officials expected to report back in the
summer.
European capitals remain split on the prospect of tariffs, with Germany
expressing caution and France adopting a tougher position.
But Mr Zipse said: "We have very good market access in China. And in the other
way around, if all of a sudden we're trying to close down the borders, because
we're so afraid. This is not what free trade is about.
"I think we have a right to be self confident and don't be so afraid, as the
European Union currently is."
Separately, figures from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT)
showed a surge of second-hand EVs entered the market in the first three months
of 2024.
The industry group said the number of used EV sales leapt 71pc to 41,505,
causing the electric segment to reach a record market share of 2.1pc.
Hybrids also sold in greater volumes, posting a 49pc rise to 74,502 sales, with
plug-ins enjoying a 43pc rise to 22,065.
A Department for Transport spokesman said: "The Government has already delayed
the phase out of petrol and diesel engines to 2035, to allow time for consumers
to make the choice to switch to electric.
"Many EVs already have a range of over 300 miles and demand continues to grow,
with a higher volume of EVs sold in March this year than ever before.
"We're addressing range anxiety by rolling out more public charging points than
ever before - with 44pc more this month than last year."
Related Topics
=====
Heavy May Snow Hits the Sierra Nevada
Concordia Below -70C (-94F) for 10-Days
Cooling In The Tropical Pacific
Vostok's Coldest April Since 1999
Global Temperature Expected To Fall In May
Tonga Eruption Responsible For Toasty 2023 (nyah nyah!)
Missing Spring In Jackson, WY
Cool Summer Forecast For Much Of The Northern Hemisphere
Record May Cold Sweeps India
Rare April Cold Hits Antarctica (-112F)
Heavy Spring Snow Traps 1,000 Vehicles In Northern India
Wild Swings In New Jersey
The Wind Didn't Blow As Hard In 2023
(An end of snow) Avalanche Hits Kashmir
Mid-May Frosts Forecast For Europe
Prairies Plantings To See Snow Delay
UK Breaks Long-Standing Cold Record
Heavy Spring Snow Sweeps Northern India
Antarctica To -77C (-106.6F)
Another Meter Of Snow Hits The Alps
Europe's Crop Losses Worsen - "The Biggest Disaster Of The Last 100 Years"
Frost Damage Reported From France To Ukraine
Growers In Canada And Northeast Also Suffer
Australia To Shiver Into May, Defying BoM Predictions
Record Cold Strikes Northern Ontario
Rare April Snow Continues Across Europe
Europe Breaks Historic Low Temperature Records As Rare Spring Snow Falls on
Major Cities
Norwegian Ski Resort on For Bumper Summer Season
Europe Freezes
No Spring In Sight For Much of Russia
Temperatures Are Falling Globally
Feet of Spring Snow Pound Colorado
U.S. Braces For Record April Cold
Socal's Back-To-Back Bumper Snow Seasons
Cold And Snow To Persist Into May Across Europe
Scabbard on For Cold April
Switzerland's Snow Matches Historic 1974-75 Season
Heavy Snow Slams Northwestern Iran
Europe Braces For Spring Freeze
Another Three Avalanche Deaths In The Alps
Indian State Suffers Coldest April Day on Record
Today's Arctic Sea Ice Extent Matches 1996
Snow Remains In Northern India
54 Spots
NZ's Record-Cold March
Rare April Snow Hits Bay Area
More Snow For Midwest/New
Scandinavia Extends Historic Cold Spell, As Europe Sets Snow Records
Feet Of Spring Snow Pound Colorado
Southern Cal's Back-To-Back Bumper Snow Seasons
Svalbard On For Cold April
Indian State Suffers Coldest April Day On Record
The Arctic Was Warmer In The 1920s
Germany Regrets Disbanding Nuclear Plants, It Was A "Mistake"
Yukon Snowpack Breaks Records
Early Snows Hit Australia's Ski Fields
It's Still Snowing On Kilimanjaro... Al Gore Was Wrong (as usual)
Alyeska Exceeds 700 Inches
Rare April Snow Hits Boise
Montreal's Snowiest April Since 2010
Clearing Crews Reach Baralacha
Antarctica At -75.8C (-104.4F)
Alta Posts Rare Back-To-Back 600+ Inch Winters
Indian Army Rescues 80 Trapped By Spring Snowfall
Remarkable Antarctic Sea Ice Recovery
April Nor'Easter Drops Feet Of Snow
600,000 Lose Power As 'Spring' Storm Batters Quebec
Avalanche Hits Helicopter In The Alps, Killing 3
Scandinavia Breaks Historic Low Temperature Stretch
New Zealand's Record-Cold March
Rare April Snow To Dust Bay Area Peaks
More Snow For The Midwest/Northeast
Scandinavia Extends Spell Of Historic April Cold, As Europe's Mountain Snow
reaks Records
Sweden Sets Coldest April Temperature
Swiss Avalanche Kills 3
Utah Snowpack At 132%, California Defies The 'Experts'
Anchorage Only 6.3" Away From All-Time Record
Colder-Than-Average March At Vostok
Antarctica Dips Below -100F
"Significant Spring Snowstorm" Takes Aim At Canada/Northern US
April Snow Builds Across Europe's Higher Elevations
Jonathan Ball's dismay
2024-05-10 17:35:21 UTC
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On Fri, 10 May 2024 09:56:01 -0700
Post by Alan
You mean the
When are you going to meet me for some poutine, ya weedy-faced
lil' coward?
AlleyCat
2024-05-10 21:42:46 UTC
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EV Car CEO Says Demand For EVs Has "Dried Up" And Calls Plans To Phase Out Gas-
Powered Cars By 2035 "Barmy."

https://telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/05/09/delay-petrol-ban-beyond-2035-says-
sir-jim-ratcliffe

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNLpCC3WYAAow1w?format=jpg&name=large

=====

Delay Petrol Ban Beyond 2035, Says Sir Jim Radcliff

Billionaire Calls For Relaxing of Net Zero Laws As Demand For Electric Cars
'Dries Up'

Sir Jim Ratcliffe has called for the ban on all petrol car sales to be delayed
beyond 2035, as the British industrial tycoon warned that demand for electric
vehicles (EVs) has "dried up".

The billionaire behind petrochemicals giant Ineos is lobbying the UK Government
to relax net zero laws so that low-emission vehicles can be sold even after the
planned cut-off point, as an "interim" step towards cleaner technologies.

This could include electric cars fitted with petrol-powered range extenders as
well as plug-in hybrids that rely on their batteries most of the time.

Sir Jim's intervention comes amid a wave of criticism of the Government's net
zero stance from some of the world's biggest carmakers, including Ford and the
owner of Vauxhall.

It is understood that the tycoon's car brand, Ineos Automotive, which is itself
preparing to launch an EV with a range-extender, has held meetings with the
Government about the issue.

Writing for The Telegraph, Sir Jim blames consumer "range anxiety" - the fear
they will run out of battery and be unable to charge - for a slowdown in EV
sales, arguing that plans to make carmakers go all-electric by 2035 are
"barmy".

The 71-year-old, whose empire includes Manchester United football club as well
as the Grangemouth oil refinery, a major supplier of petrol, adds: "Electric is
fine and dandy for the short local journey, but should you decide to head off
for the hills, forget it.

"And hence demand has dried up."

He also claims switching road transport from fossil fuels to electric "is not
like flipping a light switch", and that alternatives to EVs such as hydrogen
fuel cells should be considered, adding: "There needs to be a transition period
between fossil fuels and green fuels.

"The interim solution today which serves the need of the consumer is either the
hybrid or electric vehicle with range extender.

"This is not the politician's utopian world, but it serves the consumer well
and maintains a very positive trajectory towards zero emissions during this
transitional phase."

Ineos Automotive was founded in 2018 and currently represents less than 0.1pc
of UK car sales, making it comparable in size to Maserati, according to
industry data.

But Sir Jim's intervention is the most direct challenge to the UK's 2035 ban on
new petrol car sales so far by a manufacturer, at a time when others are also
voicing dissent.

In recent weeks, major carmakers including Volkswagen, Ford and Vauxhall owner
Stellantis have publicly vented their frustration at laws requiring them to
sell ever-higher proportions of EVs regardless of consumer demand.

Carlos Tavares, chief executive of Stellantis, claimed measures such as the
UK's zero emission vehicle (ZEV) mandate were "crashing into reality" as sales
of EVs stall across Europe.

Both he and Martin Sander, general manager of Ford's European electric car
business, also warned their companies could be forced to sell fewer cars in
Britain in order to comply with the legislation and avoid fines, a move that
could potentially push up prices for consumers.

However, on Wednesday a senior car industry source suggested most manufacturers
were likely to be against further changes to the 2035 ban, arguing that Rishi
Sunak's decision to delay the move had already given consumers an impression
"they don't need to worry about EVs".

It came as both BMW and Volkswagen urged the European Union not impose tariffs
on Chinese EVs on Wednesday, amid a rift between Germany and France over how to
tackle an expected wave of cheap exports.

Oliver Zipse, chairman of BMW Group, claimed fears about an onslaught of
Chinese EV arriving on the Continent were overblown and that imposing
restrictions flew in the face of free trade.

He pointed to the operations of foreign carmakers in China, which is BMW's
biggest market, and warned that getting into a tit-for-tat trade war would
"harm German industry much more than the other way around".

Hours later, Thomas Schäfer, brand chief executive for Volkswagen, echoed his
concerns, warning that putting tariffs in place would inevitably trigger
"retaliation" from Beijing.

Their comments come as an EU investigation into alleged subsidies provided to
Chinese manufacturers rumbles on, with officials expected to report back in the
summer.

European capitals remain split on the prospect of tariffs, with Germany
expressing caution and France adopting a tougher position.

But Mr Zipse said: "We have very good market access in China. And in the other
way around, if all of a sudden we're trying to close down the borders, because
we're so afraid. This is not what free trade is about.

"I think we have a right to be self confident and don't be so afraid, as the
European Union currently is."

Separately, figures from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT)
showed a surge of second-hand EVs entered the market in the first three months
of 2024.

The industry group said the number of used EV sales leapt 71pc to 41,505,
causing the electric segment to reach a record market share of 2.1pc.

Hybrids also sold in greater volumes, posting a 49pc rise to 74,502 sales, with
plug-ins enjoying a 43pc rise to 22,065.

A Department for Transport spokesman said: "The Government has already delayed
the phase out of petrol and diesel engines to 2035, to allow time for consumers
to make the choice to switch to electric.

"Many EVs already have a range of over 300 miles and demand continues to grow,
with a higher volume of EVs sold in March this year than ever before.

"We're addressing range anxiety by rolling out more public charging points than
ever before - with 44pc more this month than last year."
Related Topics

=====

May:

Heavy May Snow Hits the Sierra Nevada

Concordia Below -70C (-94F) for 10-Days

Cooling In The Tropical Pacific

Vostok's Coldest April Since 1999

Global Temperature Expected To Fall In May

Tonga Eruption Responsible For Toasty 2023 (nyah nyah!)

Missing Spring In Jackson, WY

Cool Summer Forecast For Much Of The Northern Hemisphere

Record May Cold Sweeps India

Rare April Cold Hits Antarctica (-112F)

Heavy Spring Snow Traps 1,000 Vehicles In Northern India

Wild Swings In New Jersey

The Wind Didn't Blow As Hard In 2023

April:

(An end of snow) Avalanche Hits Kashmir
Mid-May Frosts Forecast For Europe
Prairies Plantings To See Snow Delay
UK Breaks Long-Standing Cold Record
Heavy Spring Snow Sweeps Northern India
Antarctica To -77C (-106.6F)
Another Meter Of Snow Hits The Alps
Europe's Crop Losses Worsen - "The Biggest Disaster Of The Last 100 Years"
Frost Damage Reported From France To Ukraine
Growers In Canada And Northeast Also Suffer
Australia To Shiver Into May, Defying BoM Predictions
Record Cold Strikes Northern Ontario
Rare April Snow Continues Across Europe
Europe Breaks Historic Low Temperature Records As Rare Spring Snow Falls on
Major Cities
Norwegian Ski Resort on For Bumper Summer Season
Europe Freezes
No Spring In Sight For Much of Russia
Temperatures Are Falling Globally
Feet of Spring Snow Pound Colorado
U.S. Braces For Record April Cold
Socal's Back-To-Back Bumper Snow Seasons
Cold And Snow To Persist Into May Across Europe
Scabbard on For Cold April
Switzerland's Snow Matches Historic 1974-75 Season
Heavy Snow Slams Northwestern Iran
Europe Braces For Spring Freeze
Another Three Avalanche Deaths In The Alps
Indian State Suffers Coldest April Day on Record
Today's Arctic Sea Ice Extent Matches 1996
Snow Remains In Northern India
54 Spots
NZ's Record-Cold March
Rare April Snow Hits Bay Area
More Snow For Midwest/New
Scandinavia Extends Historic Cold Spell, As Europe Sets Snow Records
Feet Of Spring Snow Pound Colorado
Southern Cal's Back-To-Back Bumper Snow Seasons
Svalbard On For Cold April
Indian State Suffers Coldest April Day On Record
The Arctic Was Warmer In The 1920s
Germany Regrets Disbanding Nuclear Plants, It Was A "Mistake"
Yukon Snowpack Breaks Records
Early Snows Hit Australia's Ski Fields
It's Still Snowing On Kilimanjaro... Al Gore Was Wrong (as usual)
Alyeska Exceeds 700 Inches
Rare April Snow Hits Boise
Montreal's Snowiest April Since 2010
Clearing Crews Reach Baralacha
Antarctica At -75.8C (-104.4F)
Alta Posts Rare Back-To-Back 600+ Inch Winters
Indian Army Rescues 80 Trapped By Spring Snowfall
Remarkable Antarctic Sea Ice Recovery
April Nor'Easter Drops Feet Of Snow
600,000 Lose Power As 'Spring' Storm Batters Quebec
Avalanche Hits Helicopter In The Alps, Killing 3
Scandinavia Breaks Historic Low Temperature Stretch
New Zealand's Record-Cold March
Rare April Snow To Dust Bay Area Peaks
More Snow For The Midwest/Northeast
Scandinavia Extends Spell Of Historic April Cold, As Europe's Mountain Snow
reaks Records
Sweden Sets Coldest April Temperature
Swiss Avalanche Kills 3
Utah Snowpack At 132%, California Defies The 'Experts'
Anchorage Only 6.3" Away From All-Time Record
Colder-Than-Average March At Vostok
Antarctica Dips Below -100F
"Significant Spring Snowstorm" Takes Aim At Canada/Northern US
April Snow Builds Across Europe's Higher Elevations
Alan
2024-05-10 21:53:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
EV Car CEO Says Demand For EVs Has "Dried Up" And Calls Plans To Phase Out Gas-
Powered Cars By 2035 "Barmy."
I'm noting that he isn't a disinterested party, loser.
AlleyCat
2024-05-11 02:41:35 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 10 May 2024 14:53:07 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
EV Car CEO Says Demand For EVs Has "Dried Up" And Calls Plans To Phase Out Gas-
Powered Cars By 2035 "Barmy."
I'm noting that he isn't a disinterested party, loser.
So... what he said was true.

Gotcha.

So, when a politician who's invested in green energy says something about green
energy...?

There ARE no "disinterested parties" speaking on topics with authority, idiot.

You're retarded, liberal.

No refutations forthwith, you go on ignore.

===============================================================================

White Liberals More Likely To Have A Mental Health Condition

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/22/white-liberals-more-likely-
have-mental-health-cond/

Apr 22, 2021 - Sixty-two percent of Whites who classify themselves as "very
liberal" or "liberal" have been told by a doctor they have a mental health
condition, as compared to 26% of conservatives and...

=====

White Liberals More Likely to Have Mental Health Problems... - Newsmax

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/white-liberals-mental-health-
study/2021/04/20/id/1018293/

The Pew Study, Which The Washington Free Beacon notes was published last year
but only gained attention in a recent article, showed that white liberals of
all ages were more likely to be diagnosed with a mental health condition than
moderates or conservatives, with the disparity particularly pronounced among
those aged 18-29, according to evie...

=====

Study: Young White Liberals More Likely to Have Mental Health Problems

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/22/study-young-white-liberals-
more-likely-to-have-mental-health-problems/

Apr 22, 2021 - When sex and age were factors, 56.3 percent of white women
between the ages of 18 and 29 and who labeled themselves as "liberal," said
they had been given a mental health diagnosis, compared to 27.3 percent of
conservatives in the same categories and 28.4 percent of moderates:

=====

62% of "liberal" or very "liberal" whites have a mental health condition

https://www.independentsentinel.com/62-of-liberal-or-very-liberal-whites-have-
a-mental-health-condition/

According to a Pew Research Center survey, 62% percent of Whites who classify
themselves as "very liberal" or "liberal" has been told by a doctor they have a
mental health condition. Only 26% of conservatives and 20% of moderates have
been told they have such a condition, the study found.

=====

Pew Study: White Liberals Disproportionately Suffer From Mental Illness...

https://wibc.com/108211/pew-study-white-liberals-disproportionately-suffer-
from-mental-illness/

White women, ages 18-29, who identified as liberal were given a mental health
diagnosis from medical professionals at a rate of 56.3%, as compared to 28.4%
in moderates and 27.3% in conservatives. Zach Goldberg, a Ph.D. candidate in
political science, consolidated the study's info in a set of visuals and posted
them to a thread on Twitter.

SCIENCE: White Libs More Likely To Have Mental Health Problems

https://freebeacon.com/politics/white-libs-mental-health/

Within this demographic, 34 percent of liberals reported having mental health
problems, compared with 22 percent of moderates and 16 percent of
conservatives. Zach Goldberg, the doctoral...

=====

White Liberals Twice as Likely to be Diagnosed with Psychological Problems

https://www.hennessysview.com/p/psychologic-disorders-white-liberals

Nearly 1 in 2 (45.9%) of white liberals have been diagnosed with mental health
disorders. White liberals of all ages are more than twice as likely as
conservatives of any age to suffer from mental health disorders. White liberals
are almost twice as likely as non-white liberals to be diagnosed with mental
health problems.

=====

6 Reasons Why Liberalism IS A Mental Disorder (LOL) - The Political Insider

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/6-reasons-why-liberalism-can-be-considered-a-
mental-disorder/

In 2005, Michael Savage famously wrote a book titled, Liberalism is a Mental
Disorder, the subject of which is self-explanatory. Additionally, Dr. Lyle
Rossiter, a board-certified clinical psychologist, wrote a book in which he
diagnosed the ideology of the left as a tangible mental illness.

=====

Personality Traits, Mental Illness, and Ideology

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/unique-everybody-
else/202103/personality-traits-mental-illness-and-ideology

specifically, surveys on the " big five " traits of extraversion,
agreeableness, conscientiousness, neuroticism, and openness to experience have
found that people identifying as politically...

=====

Study claims over 50% of liberal women under 30 have mental health...

https://theliberal.ie/study-claims-over-50-of-liberal-women-under-30-have-
mental-health-issues-men-and-women-with-liberal-views-more-likely-to-be-
mentally-unwell/

Study claims over 50% of liberal women under 30 have mental health issues, men
and women with liberal views more likely to be mentally unwell April 24, 2021 -
12:01 Gerard Clarke Irish News
Jonathan Ball's dismay
2024-05-11 20:43:07 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 10 May 2024 14:53:07 -0700
Post by Alan
I'm noting that he isn't a disinterested party
When are you going to meet me for some poutine, ya weedy-faced
lil' coward?
JTEM
2024-05-11 22:27:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
EV Car CEO Says Demand For EVs Has "Dried Up" And Calls Plans To Phase Out Gas-
Powered Cars By 2035 "Barmy."
You mean the CEO of a "petrochemicals giant" which has
The CEO of Tesla says he's worth $56 billion in "Compensation."
The courts stopped him from taking the money, but he rearranged
things to get around the court ruling and has already repeated
his demand for that $56 billion.

You are so far removed from reality that I'm embarrassed for you!

Dude; take up the guys offer! Get the Poutine. It's more than
you deserve so be grateful for it!

Plus it's yummy.
--
https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
David Harsanyi
2024-05-11 22:39:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by JTEM
Plus it's yummy.
Big oil doesn't want you to own an electric car.
JTEM
2024-05-11 23:21:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by David Harsanyi
Post by JTEM
Plus it's yummy.
Big oil doesn't want you to own an electric car.
Nobody -- I repeat: NOBODY -- in the oil industry comes
anywhere near close to the money that EV maker Elon
Musks steals, or the political influence that Elon Musks
wields on a daily basis! Remember when he committed
investor fraud, a serious crime, by claiming he had the
funding to take Tesla private in order to drive up the
stock price? No jail time. And part of his "He's too
rich and powerful to punish" agreement was that he had
to step down as CEO. He never did. He simply changed
his mind, told the government regulators to go fuck
themselves.

ALL OF THE CEOS in the oil and gas industry COMBINED
don't make as much money as Elon Musk, EV supplier.
--
https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
Alan
2024-05-12 01:18:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by David Harsanyi
Post by JTEM
Plus it's yummy.
Big oil doesn't want you to own an electric car.
Nobody -- I repeat:  NOBODY -- in the oil industry comes
anywhere near close to the money that EV maker Elon
Musks steals
Irrelevant to this thread.
Jonathan Ball's dismay
2024-05-12 21:36:01 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:18:23 -0700
Post by Alan
Irrelevant
When are you going to meet me for some poutine, ya weedy-faced
lil' coward?
JTEM
2024-05-13 00:37:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan
Post by David Harsanyi
Post by JTEM
Plus it's yummy.
Big oil doesn't want you to own an electric car.
Nobody -- I repeat:  NOBODY -- in the oil industry comes
anywhere near close to the money that EV maker Elon
Musks steals
Irrelevant to this thread.
You are clearly retarded, and not just emotionally disturbed,
but he is extremely relevant: Falsifying you stupid position.

The claim whose butthole you're licking is that oil company
execs have the power to influence EV sales/popularity, when
the absolute richest and most powerful exec of all sells EVs.

See how that connects, speaking rhetorically?
--
https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
Alan
2024-05-11 23:26:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by JTEM
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
EV Car CEO Says Demand For EVs Has "Dried Up" And Calls Plans To Phase Out Gas-
Powered Cars By 2035 "Barmy."
You mean the CEO of a "petrochemicals giant" which has
The CEO of Tesla says he's worth $56 billion in "Compensation."
The courts stopped him from taking the money, but he rearranged
things to get around the court ruling and has already repeated
his demand for that $56 billion.
1. How is that germane?
JTEM
2024-05-12 00:50:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan
1. How is that germane?
Lol!

You're asking how is it "Germane" that the single richest CEO
on the planet, the man who steals the most money from investors
and creditors sells EV and not oil, in a thread where it was
claimed that the wishes of the oil CEOs matter here?

NOBODY wields more political power than Elon Musk. No one. Not
any oil company exec, not even any military contractors.. Oops!

He's one of those two. He couldn't be, being a foreigner, but
he ordered the government to change it's rules and let him be
a supplier, and they obeyed...
--
https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
Alan
2024-05-12 01:18:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by JTEM
Post by Alan
1. How is that germane?
Lol!
You're asking how is it "Germane" that the single richest CEO
on the planet, the man who steals the most money from investors
and creditors sells EV and not oil, in a thread where it was
claimed that the wishes of the oil CEOs matter here?
No one is talking about Elon Musk's views on anything in this thread.
AlleyCat
2024-05-12 02:32:57 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:18:00 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by JTEM
Post by Alan
1. How is that germane?
Lol!
You're asking how is it "Germane" that the single richest CEO
on the planet, the man who steals the most money from investors
and creditors sells EV and not oil, in a thread where it was
claimed that the wishes of the oil CEOs matter here?
No one is talking about Elon Musk's views on anything in this thread.
Says the moron who introduces non-germane bullshit to EVERY thread, just so he
can think he's being superior to others.

Elon Musk IS germane, moron... he sells EVs.

Refute or fuck off with your boyfriend.

No need to reply. Here... I'll do it for you.
Post by Alan
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
=====

May:

"Patagonia Is Absolutely Buried"

Rare Snow Blankets Chile's Capital

Snowbird, Utah Surpasses 600 Inches

Alaska's Near-Record Snow Season Also Means "Big Fire Danger"

Australia Shivers

Spring Snow Continues To Build On Europe's Mountains As Winter's Cold Lingers

Mongolia's Snowiest Winter Since 1975

Much Of Russia Returned To Winter

Heavy Snow Hits Argentina A Month Early

Spain Chills

"Best May Powder Days In Memory" At Palisades

Cold Antarctic Coast

Heavy May Snow Hits the Sierra Nevada

Concordia Below -70C (-94F) for 10-Days

Cooling In The Tropical Pacific

Vostok's Coldest April Since 1999

Global Temperature Expected To Fall In May

Tonga Eruption Responsible For Toasty 2023 (nyah nyah!)

Missing Spring In Jackson, WY

Cool Summer Forecast For Much Of The Northern Hemisphere

Record May Cold Sweeps India

Rare April Cold Hits Antarctica (-112F)

Heavy Spring Snow Traps 1,000 Vehicles In Northern India

Wild Swings In New Jersey

The Wind Didn't Blow As Hard In 2023
Alan
2024-05-12 16:04:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:18:00 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by JTEM
Post by Alan
1. How is that germane?
Lol!
You're asking how is it "Germane" that the single richest CEO
on the planet, the man who steals the most money from investors
and creditors sells EV and not oil, in a thread where it was
claimed that the wishes of the oil CEOs matter here?
No one is talking about Elon Musk's views on anything in this thread.
Says the moron who introduces non-germane bullshit to EVERY thread, just so he
can think he's being superior to others.
Quote me doing that.
Post by AlleyCat
Elon Musk IS germane, moron... he sells EVs.
But he isn't the one you discussed and I doubt he agrees with your
petrochemical CEO's assessment, loser.
AlleyCat
2024-05-12 17:30:42 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 12 May 2024 09:04:22 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:18:00 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by JTEM
Post by Alan
1. How is that germane?
Lol!
You're asking how is it "Germane" that the single richest CEO
on the planet, the man who steals the most money from investors
and creditors sells EV and not oil, in a thread where it was
claimed that the wishes of the oil CEOs matter here?
No one is talking about Elon Musk's views on anything in this thread.
Uhhhh... wrong again.

By "no one"... you mean self-centered narcissistic you.

When he became relevant AND germane. MY thread, MY rules.

Nobody -- I repeat: NOBODY -- in the oil industry comes anywhere near close to
the money that EV maker Elon Musks steals, or the political influence that Elon
Musks wields on a daily basis! Remember when he committed investor fraud, a
serious crime, by claiming he had the funding to take Tesla private in order to
drive up the stock price? No jail time. And part of his "He's too rich and
powerful to punish" agreement was that he had to step down as CEO. He never
did. He simply changed his mind, told the government regulators to go fuck
themselves.

ALL OF THE CEOs in the oil and gas industry COMBINED don't make as much money
as Elon Musk, EV supplier.
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Says the moron who introduces non-germane bullshit to EVERY thread, just so he
can think he's being superior to others.
Quote me doing that.
https://i.imgur.com/yXzkcH7.mp4
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
Elon Musk IS germane, moron... he sells EVs.
But he isn't the one you discussed and I doubt he agrees with your
petrochemical CEO's assessment, loser.
You just introduced Elon Musk... again... thank you. NOW he's more germane than
before.

You REALLY suck at this.

=====

May:

Record May Cold In Japan

"Patagonia Is Absolutely Buried"

Rare Snow Blankets Chile's Capital

Snowbird, Utah Surpasses 600 Inches

Alaska's Near-Record Snow Season Also Means "Big Fire Danger"

Australia Shivers

Spring Snow Continues To Build On Europe's Mountains As Winter's Cold Lingers

Mongolia's Snowiest Winter Since 1975

Much Of Russia Returned To Winter

Heavy Snow Hits Argentina A Month Early

Spain Chills

"Best May Powder Days In Memory" At Palisades

Cold Antarctic Coast

Heavy May Snow Hits the Sierra Nevada

Concordia Below -70C (-94F) for 10-Days

Cooling In The Tropical Pacific

Vostok's Coldest April Since 1999

Global Temperature Expected To Fall In May

Tonga Eruption Responsible For Toasty 2023 (nyah nyah!)

Missing Spring In Jackson, WY

Cool Summer Forecast For Much Of The Northern Hemisphere

Record May Cold Sweeps India

Rare April Cold Hits Antarctica (-112F)

Heavy Spring Snow Traps 1,000 Vehicles In Northern India

Wild Swings In New Jersey

The Wind Didn't Blow As Hard In 2023
Alan
2024-05-12 20:37:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 12 May 2024 09:04:22 -0700, Alan says...
Post by AlleyCat
On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:18:00 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by JTEM
Post by Alan
1. How is that germane?
Lol!
You're asking how is it "Germane" that the single richest CEO
on the planet, the man who steals the most money from investors
and creditors sells EV and not oil, in a thread where it was
claimed that the wishes of the oil CEOs matter here?
No one is talking about Elon Musk's views on anything in this thread.
Uhhhh... wrong again.
By "no one"... you mean self-centered narcissistic you.
Nope. I mean YOU were talking about a particular CEO's opinion.
Jonathan Ball's dismay
2024-05-12 21:36:47 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 12 May 2024 13:37:42 -0700
Nope.
When are you going to meet me for some poutine, ya weedy-faced
lil' coward?
AlleyCat
2024-05-12 21:52:05 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 12 May 2024 13:37:42 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 12 May 2024 09:04:22 -0700, Alan says...
Post by AlleyCat
On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:18:00 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by JTEM
Post by Alan
1. How is that germane?
Lol!
You're asking how is it "Germane" that the single richest CEO
on the planet, the man who steals the most money from investors
and creditors sells EV and not oil, in a thread where it was
claimed that the wishes of the oil CEOs matter here?
No one is talking about Elon Musk's views on anything in this thread.
Uhhhh... wrong again.
By "no one"... you mean self-centered narcissistic you.
Nope. I mean YOU were talking about a particular CEO's opinion.
So?

And?

Again, stalker... my thread... NO RULES!

Especially ones YOU try to make up, so you don't have to address shit YOU don't
want to.

You have to be some kind of pansy-ass little child to thing YOU can push YOUR
ideas on Usenet of how a thread should or should not follow rules.

There are no rules, pussy, ESPECIALLY those YOU try to push.

YOU don't count for shit, ski bunny.

============================================================================

THIS is Joe Biden when not on drugs or stimulants and acts like himself:

https://ak2.rmbl.ws/s8/2/S/p/u/y/Spuyq.caa.mp4?b=1&u=ummtf

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xPhZcMYekKs?feature=share

http://youtu.be/NDdNDLvvk1g

http://youtu.be/NDdNDLvvk1g

http://youtu.be/hiDRFTVH0rY

http://youtu.be/KuhR-Nqv6Wg

http://youtu.be/D5JF7PupC58andpp

http://youtu.be/3gsMTe0Nr4Yandpp

http://youtu.be/WBUgHkbtm9Iandpp

=====

Ladies and Gentlemen... I give you the Democrats' best: Old-Rich-White-
Religious Freak, Joe Biden

Or As Old-Rich-White-Religious Freak, Joe Biden Would Say: "Labadies and
Gntlmn... I gve yu the Dmcrts' bst."

=====

Truinnerashuvvaduprezure!

https://i.imgur.com/vtb7SuM.mp4

http://youtu.be/Slm5bvO-_5I

=====

Joe Bidden Completely Forgets What He's Talking About In Excruciating Press
Conference
http://youtu.be/SdfvIvYPPRo

Joe Biden Gets Completely LOST in Middle of a Story
https://rumble.com/vgbxnh-joe-biden-gets-completely-lost-in-middle-of-a-
story.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab


Biden tries to explain the Covid bill. This moron is President? Wow.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1368292670372683776


Biden's Dementia Flares Up, Has Complete Mental Short-Circuit During Speech
https://rumble.com/ve8jlz-biden-briefly-malfunctions-again.html


Out-Performed Every Presidential Challenger In US History?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1364024001736155144


Joe Biden: You Just Wonder
http://youtu.be/Uj0ccJgJsPA


Joe Biden Fumbles Through Speech
http://youtu.be/0xwoaagXFyU


Joe Biden Embarrassingly Delivers his WORST Speech while 'President Elect'
http://youtu.be/oHI__YneMuE


Barely There Biden Makes No Sense
http://youtu.be/YxxAyHgBiNU


Joe Biden Stumbles, Makes No Sense
http://youtu.be/X1byHpkSmYc


Joe Biden Makes No Sense, Forgets When The 1918 Flu Pandemic Occurred
http://youtu.be/vt7WPjsYl44


Joe Biden making Zer0 sense
http://youtu.be/VYch-1fRhiE


Joe Biden Told Voters To "Go To" A Phone Number. Now, He Still Makes Zero
Sense!
http://youtu.be/qg4OUk0qyWM
AlleyCat
2024-05-12 17:37:13 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 12 May 2024 09:04:22 -0700, Alan says...
Post by Alan
But he isn't the one you discussed and I doubt he agrees with your
petrochemical CEO's assessment, loser.
You doubt wrong.

Musk sees the writing on the wall and will be doing something about it, so the
petrochemical CEO's assessment is probably spot on and Musk, while not
"agreeing" with him 100%, HAS to agree with him to a certain extent, else he
wouldn't be gearing up for "battle".

=====

Elon Musk's Tesla Turnaround Plan, Explained

Elon Musk Said In An Email This Week Tesla Needs To Be "Absolutely Hard Core
About Headcount And Cost Reduction."

By Sissi Cao 05/02/24 4:26pm

Massive layoffs, rescinding internship offers, a surprise visit to China...
Tesla (TSLA) CEO Elon Musk has been making a series of unusual and swift moves
in what increasingly looks like a turnaround plan for his once high-flying
electric carmaker. Over the past three weeks, Tesla has slashed thousands of
jobs and shut down multiple divisions, including its newly formed marketing
team, and Musk has signaled that he isn't done making cuts.

Meanwhile, the billionaire founder is courting the Chinese government to help
Tesla open up new revenue streams in, the company's largest overseas market.

Layoffs and resignations are rattling all levels of positions at Tesla. In an
email on Monday (April 29), first reported by the Information, Musk announced
that two senior Tesla executives -Rebecca Tinucci, senior director for charging
infrastructure, and Danile Ho, director for vehicle programs and new products,
are leaving the company and that their teams will be dissolved as a result,
affecting hundreds of employees. Two weeks prior, Tesla's head of public policy
and business development, Rohan Patel, announced his departure, and Musk
subsequently shut down his entire team.

In the email, Musk said he would begin asking for resignation letters from
Tesla executives who retain "more than three people who don't obviously pass
the excellent, necessary and trustworthy test."

On April 14, Tesla announced plans to cut more than 10 percent of its global
workforce, which would affect around 14,000 employees. This week, Tesla let go
about 500 employees on its EV Supercharger team. Bloomberg has reported that
Musk is targeting a 20 percent headcount reduction, citing anonymous sources
familiar with his thinking.

Even lowly-paid interns are feeling the pain. Bloomberg reported yesterday (May
1) Tesla has revoked some offers of its summer internships, citing multiple
would-be Tesla interns who posted on LinkedIn saying their internship offers
had been rescinded. Each year, Tesla hires about 3,000 interns from colleges
and universities around the world, according to the company's 2022 Impact
Report.

Tesla was one of the few Silicon Valley companies that managed to avoid major
layoffs during last year's tech slump. But like many of its Valley peers, Tesla
hired aggressively during the Covid tech boom and is now dealing with the
consequences. "Over the years, we have grown rapidly with multiple factories
scaling around the globe. With this rapid growth there has been duplication of
roles and job functions in certain areas," Musk said in a memo announcing
layoffs on April 14.

On April 23, Tesla reported the largest quarterly revenue drop in more than a
decade. EV sales for the quarter ended March plunged 9 percent from the
previous year. And Tesla delivered 20 percent fewer EVs in the January-March
period than the previous quarter.

============================================================================

THIS is Joe Biden when not on drugs or stimulants and acts like himself:

https://ak2.rmbl.ws/s8/2/S/p/u/y/Spuyq.caa.mp4?b=1&u=ummtf

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xPhZcMYekKs?feature=share



http://youtu.be/NDdNDLvvk1g











=====

Ladies and Gentlemen... I give you the Democrats' best: Old-Rich-White-
Religious Freak, Joe Biden

Or As Old-Rich-White-Religious Freak, Joe Biden Would Say: "Labadies and
Gntlmn... I gve yu the Dmcrts' bst."

=====

Truinnerashuvvaduprezure!

https://i.imgur.com/vtb7SuM.mp4



=====

Joe Bidden Completely Forgets What He's Talking About In Excruciating Press
Conference


Joe Biden Gets Completely LOST in Middle of a Story
https://rumble.com/vgbxnh-joe-biden-gets-completely-lost-in-middle-of-a-
story.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab


Biden tries to explain the Covid bill. This moron is President? Wow.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1368292670372683776


Biden's Dementia Flares Up, Has Complete Mental Short-Circuit During Speech
https://rumble.com/ve8jlz-biden-briefly-malfunctions-again.html


Out-Performed Every Presidential Challenger In US History?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1364024001736155144


Joe Biden: You Just Wonder



Joe Biden Fumbles Through Speech



Joe Biden Embarrassingly Delivers his WORST Speech while 'President Elect'



Barely There Biden Makes No Sense



Joe Biden Stumbles, Makes No Sense



Joe Biden Makes No Sense, Forgets When The 1918 Flu Pandemic Occurred



Joe Biden making Zer0 sense



Joe Biden Told Voters To "Go To" A Phone Number. Now, He Still Makes Zero
Sense!

Jonathan Ball's dismay
2024-05-12 21:36:12 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 12 May 2024 09:04:22 -0700
Post by Alan
Quote me doing that.
When are you going to meet me for some poutine, ya weedy-faced
lil' coward?
Jonathan Ball's dismay
2024-05-12 21:35:50 UTC
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On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:18:00 -0700
Post by Alan
No one is talking
When are you going to meet me for some poutine, ya weedy-faced
lil' coward?
JTEM
2024-05-13 00:33:12 UTC
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1. How is that germane?
Lol!
You're asking how is it "Germane" that the single richest CEO
on the planet, the man who steals the most money from investors
and creditors sells EV and not oil, in a thread where it was
claimed that the wishes of the oil CEOs matter here?
No one is talking about Elon Musk's views on anything in this thread.
Well you're a goddamn idiot then because you read & replied to
"Someone" talking about Elon Musk.

Shit eaters claim that oil company execs run the world, and they
don't like EVs so that's why EVs suck so bad, even with massive
subsidies. But Elon Musk is richer and more powerful than any 10
of them, and he's making & selling EVs... though not selling as
money as he thought he would.
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Jonathan Ball's dismay
2024-05-12 21:35:39 UTC
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On Sat, 11 May 2024 16:26:52 -0700
Post by Alan
1. How is that germane?
When are you going to meet me for some poutine, ya weedy-faced
lil' coward?
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