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What The Fuck... In A WARMING WORLD!!?? - Impossible!
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AlleyCat
2024-11-19 14:11:02 UTC
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Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds

Sea ice around Antarctica has 'slowly increased" since the start of continuous satellite recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by
natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year, four environmental scientists further state that any sign that humans
are responsible for any change is "inconclusive". Not of course for mainstream media that have been crying wolf about the sea ice in
Antarctica for decades to promote the Net Zero fantasy. Last year there was a reduced level of winter sea ice and this caused the Financial
Times Science Editor Clive Cookson to exclaim that the entire area "faces a catastrophic cascade of extreme environmental events... that
will affect climate around the world".

Over the satellite record, the scientists note there was a "prolonged and gradual" expansion of sea ice to around 2014 followed by a short
period of sudden decline from 2014-19. Growth was then resumed, although there was a temporary downturn around 2022. These variations,
which can also be observed before 1979, were caused by a number of natural atmospheric and oceanic factors. All of this is known of course,
with the EU weather service Copernicus admitting recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year variability and no clear
long-term trend since 1979". At the other end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical decline in Arctic sea ice "has
levelled off since 2007".

It must all be very bewildering for narrative-following journalists. Confusion no doubt reigned supreme in their unquestioning ranks when
they chanced upon the comments last year of Dr. Walter Meier of the U.S.-based National Snow and Ice Data Centre. He was in full activist
mode when he claimed the 2023 winter sea ice dip was 'so far outside anything we've seen, it's almost mind blowing". But not perhaps as
confused as Dr. Meier himself who 10 years earlier was part of a scientific team that cracked open the secrets of early Nimbus photographic
data. These revealed significant Antarctica sea ice variability in the 1960s, including a high in 1964, not seen again until 2014, and a
low in 1966, similar to the recent dip. At the time, Dr. Meier commented that extreme ice highs and lows "are not that unusual".

During the Great 2023 Antarctica Ice Scare, the BBC said that it showed a worrying new benchmark for the region 'that once seemed resistant
to global warming". Still does, those striving for accuracy might note. Antarctica has hardly warmed in the last 70 years.

One by one the appalling scares that have been used by Net Zero fanatics to promote mass climate psychosis in human populations are being
exposed as wishful junk thinking. Over the last few decades, alarmists have taken their cue from the ozone hole scare that started in 1974.
At this time, two scientists claimed that the widespread industrial use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) was destroying the protective ozone
layer in the atmosphere. Subsequently, an annual appearance of an ozone hole was discovered over Antarctica and CFCs were banned by
international agreement in 1995. The two scientists received the Nobel prize for their work, and activists claimed it was all a great
triumph showing what could be achieved when humans acted in concert to protect the planet. The Nobels were accepted and the activists moved
onto other scares and proposed bans. What happened to the ozone hole, you ask? Well that kept on expanding and contracting as it has always
done, and this year the hole is as large as it has been for the last 30 years. Whisper it quietly - natural variation seems to be at work
here.

As readers will no doubt be aware, there is gathering excitement about the prospect of another 'hottest year evah' for 2024. There has been
a little extra warmth recently following a near nine-year temperature pause with scientists looking at a number of natural variations seen
often in the past.

Hottest year claims are produced from woefully incomplete temperature records that are barely 100 years old. In the case of sea
temperatures, accurate and complete global records stretch back less than 20 years. The temperature data itself, as we have seen in many
Daily Sceptic articles, have been homogenised/reanalysed/invented/adjusted on an almost constant basis. Most individual temperature
recordings around the world have been corrupted by urban heat, while in the U.K. the Met Office seems inordinately proud of a national high
set in 2022 as three Typhoon jets were landing at a RAF airbase. If we consider the proxy record, it seems likely that temperatures were as
high in Roman and medieval times, while 8,000 years ago the great northern ice sheets started to melt helped by temperatures at least 3°C
higher than those experienced today. Again it is difficult not to conclude that natural variation plays the dominant role in controlling
the climate thermostat.

Thoughts and prayers are also the order of the day for those who set great store in all the coral disappearing. Three years of record
growth on the huge Great Barrier Reef put an end to that headliner. Polar bears are just as bad and keep breeding to top up new Arctic
highs. Satellites keep discovering vast colonies of penguins in Antarctica, and mainstream media seem shocked into complete silence to
report that the eyes in the sky have detected a vast recent plant greening of the Earth. There is a growing trend to debunk any 'extreme'
weather claim - the great citizen journalist Paul Homewood even writes a book about the BBC's more egregious climate howlers, every year no
less, such is the volume to process.

The Net Zero project is starting to crumble around the world as citizens make their feelings known with votes, and sometimes with rocks.
Nobody can or wants to live in a world without hydrocarbons. Crucial to this trend is an emerging understanding that the scientific process
when it comes to climate has been trashed for decades and replaced with an increasingly laughable junk 'settled' science narrative.

=====

November:

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
JTEM
2024-11-19 21:44:28 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds
So that's proof that the earth is super heated... isn't it?

Oh my Greta! The paper must be faked! FAKED! Because *Everybody*
knows that the climate is hotter than a clothing-optional anti
Israel rally!

THERE'S A 997% CONSENSUS!

The only thing that might help is a boatload of new taxes on the
people with the least money, the least power & smallest "CO2
footprint."
--
https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
Alan
2024-11-19 22:08:51 UTC
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Post by JTEM
Post by AlleyCat
Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds
So that's proof that the earth is super heated... isn't it?
Oh my Greta!  The paper must be faked! FAKED! Because *Everybody*
knows that the climate is hotter than a clothing-optional anti
Israel rally!
THERE'S A 997% CONSENSUS!
The only thing that might help is a boatload of new taxes on the
people with the least money, the least power & smallest "CO2
footprint."
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>

Check out the data.
AlleyCat
2024-11-19 22:58:20 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:51 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Check out the data.
No refutation noted... thank you.

Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds

Sea ice around Antarctica has 'slowly increased" since the start of continuous satellite recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by
natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year, four environmental scientists further state that any sign that humans
are responsible for any change is "inconclusive". Not of course for mainstream media that have been crying wolf about the sea ice in
Antarctica for decades to promote the Net Zero fantasy. Last year there was a reduced level of winter sea ice and this caused the Financial
Times Science Editor Clive Cookson to exclaim that the entire area "faces a catastrophic cascade of extreme environmental events... that
will affect climate around the world".

Over the satellite record, the scientists note there was a "prolonged and gradual" expansion of sea ice to around 2014 followed by a short
period of sudden decline from 2014-19. Growth was then resumed, although there was a temporary downturn around 2022. These variations,
which can also be observed before 1979, were caused by a number of natural atmospheric and oceanic factors. All of this is known of course,
with the EU weather service Copernicus admitting recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year variability and no clear
long-term trend since 1979". At the other end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical decline in Arctic sea ice "has
leveled off since 2007".

It must all be very bewildering for narrative-following journalists. Confusion no doubt reigned supreme in their unquestioning ranks when
they chanced upon the comments last year of Dr. Walter Meier of the U.S.-based National Snow and Ice Data Centre. He was in full activist
mode when he claimed the 2023 winter sea ice dip was 'so far outside anything we've seen, it's almost mind blowing". But not perhaps as
confused as Dr. Meier himself who 10 years earlier was part of a scientific team that cracked open the secrets of early Nimbus photographic
data. These revealed significant Antarctica sea ice variability in the 1960s, including a high in 1964, not seen again until 2014, and a
low in 1966, similar to the recent dip. At the time, Dr. Meier commented that extreme ice highs and lows "are not that unusual".

During the Great 2023 Antarctica Ice Scare, the BBC said that it showed a worrying new benchmark for the region 'that once seemed resistant
to global warming". Still does, those striving for accuracy might note. Antarctica has hardly warmed in the last 70 years.

One by one the appalling scares that have been used by Net Zero fanatics to promote mass climate psychosis in human populations are being
exposed as wishful junk thinking. Over the last few decades, alarmists have taken their cue from the ozone hole scare that started in 1974.
At this time, two scientists claimed that the widespread industrial use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) was destroying the protective ozone
layer in the atmosphere. Subsequently, an annual appearance of an ozone hole was discovered over Antarctica and CFCs were banned by
international agreement in 1995. The two scientists received the Nobel prize for their work, and activists claimed it was all a great
triumph showing what could be achieved when humans acted in concert to protect the planet. The Nobels were accepted and the activists moved
onto other scares and proposed bans. What happened to the ozone hole, you ask? Well that kept on expanding and contracting as it has always
done, and this year the hole is as large as it has been for the last 30 years. Whisper it quietly - natural variation seems to be at work
here.

As readers will no doubt be aware, there is gathering excitement about the prospect of another 'hottest year evah' for 2024. There has been
a little extra warmth recently following a near nine-year temperature pause with scientists looking at a number of natural variations seen
often in the past.

Hottest year claims are produced from woefully incomplete temperature records that are barely 100 years old. In the case of sea
temperatures, accurate and complete global records stretch back less than 20 years. The temperature data itself, as we have seen in many
Daily Sceptic articles, have been homogenised/reanalysed/invented/adjusted on an almost constant basis. Most individual temperature
recordings around the world have been corrupted by urban heat, while in the U.K. the Met Office seems inordinately proud of a national high
set in 2022 as three Typhoon jets were landing at a RAF airbase. If we consider the proxy record, it seems likely that temperatures were as
high in Roman and medieval times, while 8,000 years ago the great northern ice sheets started to melt helped by temperatures at least 3°C
higher than those experienced today. Again it is difficult not to conclude that natural variation plays the dominant role in controlling
the climate thermostat.

Thoughts and prayers are also the order of the day for those who set great store in all the coral disappearing. Three years of record
growth on the huge Great Barrier Reef put an end to that headliner. Polar bears are just as bad and keep breeding to top up new Arctic
highs. Satellites keep discovering vast colonies of penguins in Antarctica, and mainstream media seem shocked into complete silence to
report that the eyes in the sky have detected a vast recent plant greening of the Earth. There is a growing trend to debunk any 'extreme'
weather claim - the great citizen journalist Paul Homewood even writes a book about the BBC's more egregious climate howlers, every year no
less, such is the volume to process.

The Net Zero project is starting to crumble around the world as citizens make their feelings known with votes, and sometimes with rocks.
Nobody can or wants to live in a world without hydrocarbons. Crucial to this trend is an emerging understanding that the scientific process
when it comes to climate has been trashed for decades and replaced with an increasingly laughable junk 'settled' science narrative.

=====

November:

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
Alan
2024-11-19 23:13:35 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:51 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Check out the data.
No refutation noted... thank you.
You mean refutation snipped:


<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>

Check out the data.
AlleyCat
2024-11-21 13:09:49 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:35 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:51 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Check out the data.
No refutation noted... thank you.
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
So... click on all years, graph it out, and show us how this article and study are all lies.

"The EU weather service Copernicus admitted recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year variability and no clear
long-term trend since 1979'. At the other end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical decline in Arctic sea ice "has
leveled off since 2007".

I'll trust a NON-U.S. funded entity over NASA and ESPECIALLY a government-funded University, EVERY day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

When you're getting paid by the government, there is NO way to be objective. NASA is known for their data manipulation.

NASA has manipulated historical temperature data to show a dramatic increase in temperature, especially since the year 2000.

Comparing NASA charts from the years 2000, 2017, and 2019, Heller shows data has been manipulated multiple times since the year 2000.
Heller shows, with NASA's OWN DATA, that the space agency has been adjusting temperatures from the past - temperatures from as long ago as
the mid-1800s - downward, while adjusting current-day temperatures upward, and those changes are responsible for most of the claimed global
warming during that time. In the year 2000, historical data showed a .5 degree Celsius increase from the mid-1800s to the year 2000. In
2017, the same agency's historical temperature data showed a 1.5C increase and just two years later a 2.0 C increase. In each of those time
frames, older temperatures are pushed slightly downward.

The 2017 to 2019 rise in temperature is especially confusing when you add the fact that satellite temperature data shows a global decrease
in land temperature for the last two years. As well, satellite data adds to the case of fraud in another way: According to satellite data,
since the year 2000, land temperatures have increased by .2 degrees Celsius, but NASA's latest chart says that temperatures increased by
1.5 degrees Celsius since 2000. So more than 80 percent of the change in temperature since the year 2000 is the result of temperature data
manipulation.

"They've quadrupled warming mainly by cooling past temperatures and warming present temperatures," Heller said in a video released on
Monday.

Moreover, the entire Medieval Warm Period has disappeared. The Medieval Warm Period, which has lots of scientific and historical evidence
to show it happened - and which was prominent in a 1990 IPCC graph - has been adjusted out of existence. Climate alarmists can't have a
Medieval Warm Period, since it casts so much doubt on the current theory that man is causing a current upward temperature swing. The
Medieval Warm Period occurred before man could reasonably be blamed for it. That's why in 1999 when Michael Mann released his infamous
"hockey stick graph," the Medieval Warm Period was suddenly gone. Thus did Mann create a non-existent global-warming 'tipping point" based
on CO2, starting in the late 19th century.

"If we had high temperatures when CO2 was low, that would indicate that other factors in the climate are much stronger than carbon
dioxide," Heller pointed out.

The CO2 tipping point farce goes beyond Michael Mann's skulduggery. A 2006 statement by Dr. David Deming revealed that as early as 1995
scientists were facing pressure to "get rid of" the Medieval Warm Period. "I had another interesting experience around the time my paper in
Science was published. I received an astonishing e-mail from a major researcher in the area of climate change. He said, "We have to get rid
of the Medieval Warm Period," Deming told the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works.

(Interesting side note: When you click on the link to Deming's 2002 testimony, the browser says, "Page cannot be found." Question: Has it
been purged, and if so, why?)

"When you're willing to manipulate data you can show any result you want, and they wanted to show warming," Heller concluded.

British economist Ronald Coase once quipped, "Torture the data, and it will confess to anything." While Coase's quote was about economics,
it definitely applies to natural science as well. As Heller's well-researched charts show, today's climate-alarmist scientists are more
than willing to 'torture" the data to achieve their desired results.

There are several examples of doctored historical temperature data. Besides NASA, we know that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration (NOAA) has done it. We know that the HadCRUT 4 data used by the UNIPCC contained at least 70 obvious errors, according to a
2018 audit by climate-data researcher Dr. John Mclean.

And the data tampering isn't limited to temperature either. Sea-level rise data is tampered with as well.

The willingness of scientists such as Mann and others to completely change historical data to show rapid warming is scientific quackery of
the highest order. And that willingness doesn't just make them bad scientists; it makes them liars.

=====

Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds

Sea ice around Antarctica has 'slowly increased" since the start of continuous satellite recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by
natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year, four environmental scientists further state that any sign that humans
are responsible for any change is "inconclusive". Not of course for mainstream media that have been crying wolf about the sea ice in
Antarctica for decades to promote the Net Zero fantasy. Last year there was a reduced level of winter sea ice and this caused the Financial
Times Science Editor Clive Cookson to exclaim that the entire area "faces a catastrophic cascade of extreme environmental events... that
will affect climate around the world".

Over the satellite record, the scientists note there was a "prolonged and gradual" expansion of sea ice to around 2014 followed by a short
period of sudden decline from 2014-19. Growth was then resumed, although there was a temporary downturn around 2022. These variations,
which can also be observed before 1979, were caused by a number of natural atmospheric and oceanic factors. All of this is known of course,
with the EU weather service Copernicus admitting recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year variability and no clear
long-term trend since 1979". At the other end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical decline in Arctic sea ice "has
leveled off since 2007".

It must all be very bewildering for narrative-following journalists. Confusion no doubt reigned supreme in their unquestioning ranks when
they chanced upon the comments last year of Dr. Walter Meier of the U.S.-based National Snow and Ice Data Centre. He was in full activist
mode when he claimed the 2023 winter sea ice dip was 'so far outside anything we've seen, it's almost mind blowing". But not perhaps as
confused as Dr. Meier himself who 10 years earlier was part of a scientific team that cracked open the secrets of early Nimbus photographic
data. These revealed significant Antarctica sea ice variability in the 1960s, including a high in 1964, not seen again until 2014, and a
low in 1966, similar to the recent dip. At the time, Dr. Meier commented that extreme ice highs and lows "are not that unusual".

During the Great 2023 Antarctica Ice Scare, the BBC said that it showed a worrying new benchmark for the region 'that once seemed resistant
to global warming". Still does, those striving for accuracy might note. Antarctica has hardly warmed in the last 70 years.

One by one the appalling scares that have been used by Net Zero fanatics to promote mass climate psychosis in human populations are being
exposed as wishful junk thinking. Over the last few decades, alarmists have taken their cue from the ozone hole scare that started in 1974.
At this time, two scientists claimed that the widespread industrial use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) was destroying the protective ozone
layer in the atmosphere. Subsequently, an annual appearance of an ozone hole was discovered over Antarctica and CFCs were banned by
international agreement in 1995. The two scientists received the Nobel prize for their work, and activists claimed it was all a great
triumph showing what could be achieved when humans acted in concert to protect the planet. The Nobels were accepted and the activists moved
onto other scares and proposed bans. What happened to the ozone hole, you ask? Well that kept on expanding and contracting as it has always
done, and this year the hole is as large as it has been for the last 30 years. Whisper it quietly - natural variation seems to be at work
here.

As readers will no doubt be aware, there is gathering excitement about the prospect of another 'hottest year evah' for 2024. There has been
a little extra warmth recently following a near nine-year temperature pause with scientists looking at a number of natural variations seen
often in the past.

Hottest year claims are produced from woefully incomplete temperature records that are barely 100 years old. In the case of sea
temperatures, accurate and complete global records stretch back less than 20 years. The temperature data itself, as we have seen in many
Daily Sceptic articles, have been homogenised/reanalysed/invented/adjusted on an almost constant basis. Most individual temperature
recordings around the world have been corrupted by urban heat, while in the U.K. the Met Office seems inordinately proud of a national high
set in 2022 as three Typhoon jets were landing at a RAF airbase. If we consider the proxy record, it seems likely that temperatures were as
high in Roman and medieval times, while 8,000 years ago the great northern ice sheets started to melt helped by temperatures at least 3°C
higher than those experienced today. Again it is difficult not to conclude that natural variation plays the dominant role in controlling
the climate thermostat.

Thoughts and prayers are also the order of the day for those who set great store in all the coral disappearing. Three years of record
growth on the huge Great Barrier Reef put an end to that headliner. Polar bears are just as bad and keep breeding to top up new Arctic
highs. Satellites keep discovering vast colonies of penguins in Antarctica, and mainstream media seem shocked into complete silence to
report that the eyes in the sky have detected a vast recent plant greening of the Earth. There is a growing trend to debunk any 'extreme'
weather claim - the great citizen journalist Paul Homewood even writes a book about the BBC's more egregious climate howlers, every year no
less, such is the volume to process.

The Net Zero project is starting to crumble around the world as citizens make their feelings known with votes, and sometimes with rocks.
Nobody can or wants to live in a world without hydrocarbons. Crucial to this trend is an emerging understanding that the scientific process
when it comes to climate has been trashed for decades and replaced with an increasingly laughable junk 'settled' science narrative.

=====

November:

U.S. Snow Spreading East

UK Snow Builds, Farmers Protest Regardless

Mountain Snowpack Above Average

Winter Deepens Across India

Europe: Record Lows, Snowstorms, And Power Cuts

Feet Upon Feet Of U.S. Snow

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
Alan
2024-11-21 23:19:37 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:35 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:51 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Check out the data.
No refutation noted... thank you.
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
So... click on all years, graph it out, and show us how this article and study are all lies.
I just did.
AlleyCat
2024-11-22 14:45:56 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:19:37 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:35 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:51 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Check out the data.
No refutation noted... thank you.
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
So... click on all years, graph it out, and show us how this article and study are all lies.
I just did.
http://youtu.be/RqJVa0fl01w

Two outta three IS bad.

=====

November:

UK Issued Fresh Snow Warnings

Global Cooling And Storminess

New Nature Study Reveals Early-20th-Century Oceans Were Warmer, Challenging AGW Narratives

Record Cold And Heavy Snow Grip The UK

Norway Chills

Harsh Freeze Sweeps Siberia And Mongolia

New Study: Decades Of Stable Greenland Temperatures Undermine Climate Alarm

U.S. Snow Spreading East

UK Snow Builds, Farmers Protest Regardless

Mountain Snowpack Above Average

Winter Deepens Across India

Europe: Record Lows, Snowstorms, And Power Cuts

Feet Upon Feet Of U.S. Snow

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
Siri Cruise
2024-11-19 22:22:55 UTC
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Post by JTEM
Oh my Greta!  The paper must be faked! FAKED! Because *Everybody*
knows that the climate is hotter than a clothing-optional anti
Israel rally!
Is that climate change you are whining about?
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Alan
2024-11-19 22:08:32 UTC
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On 2024-11-19 06:11, AlleyCat wrote:

An unsourced article, but I'll play!

<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-
ice-graph>

Antarctic sea ice for the last two years have been lower than than ever
year since 1979.

So I don't know how your "scientific paper" found different.
Post by AlleyCat
Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds
Sea ice around Antarctica has 'slowly increased" since the start of
continuous satellite recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by
natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year,
four environmental scientists further state that any sign that
humans are responsible for any change is "inconclusive". Not of
course for mainstream media that have been crying wolf about the sea
ice in Antarctica for decades to promote the Net Zero fantasy. Last
year there was a reduced level of winter sea ice and this caused the
Financial Times Science Editor Clive Cookson to exclaim that the
entire area "faces a catastrophic cascade of extreme environmental
events... that will affect climate around the world".
Over the satellite record, the scientists note there was a
"prolonged and gradual" expansion of sea ice to around 2014 followed
by a short period of sudden decline from 2014-19. Growth was then
resumed, although there was a temporary downturn around 2022. These
variations, which can also be observed before 1979, were caused by a
number of natural atmospheric and oceanic factors. All of this is
known of course, with the EU weather service Copernicus admitting
recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year
variability and no clear long-term trend since 1979". At the other
end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical
decline in Arctic sea ice "has levelled off since 2007".
It must all be very bewildering for narrative-following journalists.
Confusion no doubt reigned supreme in their unquestioning ranks when
they chanced upon the comments last year of Dr. Walter Meier of the
U.S.-based National Snow and Ice Data Centre. He was in full
activist mode when he claimed the 2023 winter sea ice dip was 'so
far outside anything we've seen, it's almost mind blowing". But not
perhaps as confused as Dr. Meier himself who 10 years earlier was
part of a scientific team that cracked open the secrets of early
Nimbus photographic data. These revealed significant Antarctica sea
ice variability in the 1960s, including a high in 1964, not seen
again until 2014, and a low in 1966, similar to the recent dip. At
the time, Dr. Meier commented that extreme ice highs and lows "are
not that unusual".
During the Great 2023 Antarctica Ice Scare, the BBC said that it
showed a worrying new benchmark for the region 'that once seemed
resistant to global warming". Still does, those striving for
accuracy might note. Antarctica has hardly warmed in the last 70
years.
One by one the appalling scares that have been used by Net Zero
fanatics to promote mass climate psychosis in human populations are
being exposed as wishful junk thinking. Over the last few decades,
alarmists have taken their cue from the ozone hole scare that
started in 1974. At this time, two scientists claimed that the
widespread industrial use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) was
destroying the protective ozone layer in the atmosphere.
Subsequently, an annual appearance of an ozone hole was discovered
over Antarctica and CFCs were banned by international agreement in
1995. The two scientists received the Nobel prize for their work,
and activists claimed it was all a great triumph showing what could
be achieved when humans acted in concert to protect the planet. The
Nobels were accepted and the activists moved onto other scares and
proposed bans. What happened to the ozone hole, you ask? Well that
kept on expanding and contracting as it has always done, and this
year the hole is as large as it has been for the last 30 years.
Whisper it quietly - natural variation seems to be at work here.
As readers will no doubt be aware, there is gathering excitement
about the prospect of another 'hottest year evah' for 2024. There
has been a little extra warmth recently following a near nine-year
temperature pause with scientists looking at a number of natural
variations seen often in the past.
Hottest year claims are produced from woefully incomplete
temperature records that are barely 100 years old. In the case of
sea temperatures, accurate and complete global records stretch back
less than 20 years. The temperature data itself, as we have seen in
many Daily Sceptic articles, have been homogenised/reanalysed/
invented/adjusted on an almost constant basis. Most individual
temperature recordings around the world have been corrupted by urban
heat, while in the U.K. the Met Office seems inordinately proud of a
national high set in 2022 as three Typhoon jets were landing at a
RAF airbase. If we consider the proxy record, it seems likely that
temperatures were as high in Roman and medieval times, while 8,000
years ago the great northern ice sheets started to melt helped by
temperatures at least 3°C higher than those experienced today. Again
it is difficult not to conclude that natural variation plays the
dominant role in controlling the climate thermostat.
Thoughts and prayers are also the order of the day for those who set
great store in all the coral disappearing. Three years of record
growth on the huge Great Barrier Reef put an end to that headliner.
Polar bears are just as bad and keep breeding to top up new Arctic
highs. Satellites keep discovering vast colonies of penguins in
Antarctica, and mainstream media seem shocked into complete silence
to report that the eyes in the sky have detected a vast recent plant
greening of the Earth. There is a growing trend to debunk any
'extreme' weather claim - the great citizen journalist Paul Homewood
even writes a book about the BBC's more egregious climate howlers,
every year no less, such is the volume to process.
The Net Zero project is starting to crumble around the world as
citizens make their feelings known with votes, and sometimes with
rocks. Nobody can or wants to live in a world without hydrocarbons.
Crucial to this trend is an emerging understanding that the
scientific process when it comes to climate has been trashed for
decades and replaced with an increasingly laughable junk 'settled'
science narrative.
=====
Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season
La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA
Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode
Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come
India Chills
Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.
Accumulations In Kashmir
Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe
Yakutia's Deep Freeze
South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939
Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado
Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average
4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued
Al Gore Copes
Summer Snow In South Africa
Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand
There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji
Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China
Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow
Global Temperatures Cooled In October
Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India
Russia Suffers -40.1c
Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity
October Snows Blanket Whitehorse
Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage
Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds
Early Winter Hits Northern Europe
Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco
Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow
Early Snows Hit Pakistan
Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall
Expanding Polar Sea Ice
Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand
Eastern Russia Buried
Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
AlleyCat
2024-11-19 22:58:21 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:32 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
An unsourced article, but I'll play!
No refutation noted... thank you.

Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds

Sea ice around Antarctica has 'slowly increased" since the start of continuous satellite recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by
natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year, four environmental scientists further state that any sign that humans
are responsible for any change is "inconclusive". Not of course for mainstream media that have been crying wolf about the sea ice in
Antarctica for decades to promote the Net Zero fantasy. Last year there was a reduced level of winter sea ice and this caused the Financial
Times Science Editor Clive Cookson to exclaim that the entire area "faces a catastrophic cascade of extreme environmental events... that
will affect climate around the world".

Over the satellite record, the scientists note there was a "prolonged and gradual" expansion of sea ice to around 2014 followed by a short
period of sudden decline from 2014-19. Growth was then resumed, although there was a temporary downturn around 2022. These variations,
which can also be observed before 1979, were caused by a number of natural atmospheric and oceanic factors. All of this is known of course,
with the EU weather service Copernicus admitting recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year variability and no clear
long-term trend since 1979". At the other end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical decline in Arctic sea ice "has
levelled off since 2007".

It must all be very bewildering for narrative-following journalists. Confusion no doubt reigned supreme in their unquestioning ranks when
they chanced upon the comments last year of Dr. Walter Meier of the U.S.-based National Snow and Ice Data Centre. He was in full activist
mode when he claimed the 2023 winter sea ice dip was 'so far outside anything we've seen, it's almost mind blowing". But not perhaps as
confused as Dr. Meier himself who 10 years earlier was part of a scientific team that cracked open the secrets of early Nimbus photographic
data. These revealed significant Antarctica sea ice variability in the 1960s, including a high in 1964, not seen again until 2014, and a
low in 1966, similar to the recent dip. At the time, Dr. Meier commented that extreme ice highs and lows "are not that unusual".

During the Great 2023 Antarctica Ice Scare, the BBC said that it showed a worrying new benchmark for the region 'that once seemed resistant
to global warming". Still does, those striving for accuracy might note. Antarctica has hardly warmed in the last 70 years.

One by one the appalling scares that have been used by Net Zero fanatics to promote mass climate psychosis in human populations are being
exposed as wishful junk thinking. Over the last few decades, alarmists have taken their cue from the ozone hole scare that started in 1974.
At this time, two scientists claimed that the widespread industrial use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) was destroying the protective ozone
layer in the atmosphere. Subsequently, an annual appearance of an ozone hole was discovered over Antarctica and CFCs were banned by
international agreement in 1995. The two scientists received the Nobel prize for their work, and activists claimed it was all a great
triumph showing what could be achieved when humans acted in concert to protect the planet. The Nobels were accepted and the activists moved
onto other scares and proposed bans. What happened to the ozone hole, you ask? Well that kept on expanding and contracting as it has always
done, and this year the hole is as large as it has been for the last 30 years. Whisper it quietly - natural variation seems to be at work
here.

As readers will no doubt be aware, there is gathering excitement about the prospect of another 'hottest year evah' for 2024. There has been
a little extra warmth recently following a near nine-year temperature pause with scientists looking at a number of natural variations seen
often in the past.

Hottest year claims are produced from woefully incomplete temperature records that are barely 100 years old. In the case of sea
temperatures, accurate and complete global records stretch back less than 20 years. The temperature data itself, as we have seen in many
Daily Sceptic articles, have been homogenised/reanalysed/invented/adjusted on an almost constant basis. Most individual temperature
recordings around the world have been corrupted by urban heat, while in the U.K. the Met Office seems inordinately proud of a national high
set in 2022 as three Typhoon jets were landing at a RAF airbase. If we consider the proxy record, it seems likely that temperatures were as
high in Roman and medieval times, while 8,000 years ago the great northern ice sheets started to melt helped by temperatures at least 3°C
higher than those experienced today. Again it is difficult not to conclude that natural variation plays the dominant role in controlling
the climate thermostat.

Thoughts and prayers are also the order of the day for those who set great store in all the coral disappearing. Three years of record
growth on the huge Great Barrier Reef put an end to that headliner. Polar bears are just as bad and keep breeding to top up new Arctic
highs. Satellites keep discovering vast colonies of penguins in Antarctica, and mainstream media seem shocked into complete silence to
report that the eyes in the sky have detected a vast recent plant greening of the Earth. There is a growing trend to debunk any 'extreme'
weather claim - the great citizen journalist Paul Homewood even writes a book about the BBC's more egregious climate howlers, every year no
less, such is the volume to process.

The Net Zero project is starting to crumble around the world as citizens make their feelings known with votes, and sometimes with rocks.
Nobody can or wants to live in a world without hydrocarbons. Crucial to this trend is an emerging understanding that the scientific process
when it comes to climate has been trashed for decades and replaced with an increasingly laughable junk 'settled' science narrative.

=====

November:

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
Alan
2024-11-19 23:13:59 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:32 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
An unsourced article, but I'll play!
No refutation noted... thank you.
You mean "refutation snipped":


<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>

Check out the data.
AlleyCat
2024-11-21 13:10:09 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:59 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
Graph out the data.

=====

November:

UK Issued Fresh Snow Warnings

Global Cooling And Storminess

New Nature Study Reveals Early-20th-Century Oceans Were Warmer, Challenging AGW Narratives

Record Cold And Heavy Snow Grip The UK

Norway Chills

Harsh Freeze Sweeps Siberia And Mongolia

New Study: Decades Of Stable Greenland Temperatures Undermine Climate Alarm

U.S. Snow Spreading East

UK Snow Builds, Farmers Protest Regardless

Mountain Snowpack Above Average

Winter Deepens Across India

Europe: Record Lows, Snowstorms, And Power Cuts

Feet Upon Feet Of U.S. Snow

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
Alan
2024-11-21 23:20:06 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:59 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
Graph out the data.
It's a graph already, doofus.

Showing that you didn't even bother to look before replying.
AlleyCat
2024-11-22 14:45:26 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:20:06 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:59 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
Graph out the data.
It's a graph already, doofus.
Showing that you didn't even bother to look before replying.
But you didn't do what I asked, so PLONK!

So... click on all years, graph it out, and show us how this article and study are all lies.

I see no graph that YOU made from clicking on all the years and showing the study to be wrong.



So... PLONK!

=====

November:

UK Issued Fresh Snow Warnings

Global Cooling And Storminess

New Nature Study Reveals Early-20th-Century Oceans Were Warmer, Challenging AGW Narratives

Record Cold And Heavy Snow Grip The UK

Norway Chills

Harsh Freeze Sweeps Siberia And Mongolia

New Study: Decades Of Stable Greenland Temperatures Undermine Climate Alarm

U.S. Snow Spreading East

UK Snow Builds, Farmers Protest Regardless

Mountain Snowpack Above Average

Winter Deepens Across India

Europe: Record Lows, Snowstorms, And Power Cuts

Feet Upon Feet Of U.S. Snow

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
Alan
2024-11-22 20:34:34 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:20:06 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:59 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
Graph out the data.
It's a graph already, doofus.
Showing that you didn't even bother to look before replying.
But you didn't do what I asked, so PLONK!
So... click on all years, graph it out, and show us how this article and study are all lies.
I see no graph that YOU made from clicking on all the years and showing the study to be wrong.
http://youtu.be/RqJVa0fl01w
So... PLONK!
Did I say I made a graph, doofus?

I said that the data is presented as a graph already, and it clearly
shows your article to be bullshit.
JTEM
2024-11-25 22:10:06 UTC
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Post by Alan
I said that the data is presented as a graph already, and it clearly
shows your article to be bullshit.
Why are there glaciers?

The Maldives were supposed to be underwater at least 6 years
ago, why aren't they?

Glacier National Park was going to be "Glacier Free" BY the
year 2020. No on or in 2020 but BY the year 2020.

There's still glaciers!

You're in this retarded position where you're defending what
you want to call "Science" when we all know, and even you
know, that it isn't science.

In science, your hypothesis is the basis for predictions.
These predictions are what test your hypothesis. And failed
predictions FALSIFY your hypothesis. There's never been a
moment in over 20 years where you didn't have absolute
proof that your Gwobull Warbling hypothesis is false.

Grow up.
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Alan
2024-11-26 03:05:07 UTC
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Post by JTEM
Post by Alan
I said that the data is presented as a graph already, and it clearly
shows your article to be bullshit.
Why are there glaciers?
How is that relevant?

There are a LOT of glaciers that have receded...

...a LOT.
Post by JTEM
The Maldives were supposed to be underwater at least 6 years
ago, why aren't they?
Glacier National Park was going to be "Glacier Free" BY the
year 2020. No on or in 2020 but BY the year 2020.
And because people got the timing wrong, it completely invalidates the
fact that the glaciers have receded so very much?
Post by JTEM
There's still glaciers!
'Between 1966 and 2015, every named glacier in the park got smaller,
some by more than 80%.'

<https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/nature/glaciersoverview.htm#:~:text=Are%20the%20glaciers%20shrinking%3F,a%20trend%20of%20shrinking%20area.>
Post by JTEM
You're in this retarded position where you're defending what
you want to call "Science" when we all know, and even you
know, that it isn't science.
In science, your hypothesis is the basis for predictions.
These predictions are what test your hypothesis. And failed
predictions FALSIFY your hypothesis. There's never been a
moment in over 20 years where you didn't have absolute
proof that your Gwobull Warbling hypothesis is false.
Grow up.
Back at ya, sunshine:

<https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/nature/glacier-repeat-photos.htm>

'Grinnell Glacier 1910 and 2016

In 1910, Morton Elrod documented how Grinnell Glacier’s mass filled the
basin and how the glacier was then joined with the ice apron we now call
the Salamander (right). Close inspection of Gem Glacier (top-center)
reveals a loss of thickness and volume over the years as well.

Boulder Glacier 1932 and 1988

This is one of the earliest photographs repeated from the park that
shows the disappearance of glacial ice.'

I could go on...

...but you're like a flat-earther on this subject, aren't you; utterly
immune for actual facts?

<https://www.usgs.gov/centers/norock/science/repeat-photography-project?qt-science_center_objects=0#qt-science_center_objects>
AlleyCat
2024-11-26 15:04:26 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 19:05:07 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
And because people got the timing wrong, it completely invalidates the
fact that the glaciers have receded so very much?
ALL of the glaciers melted before the Little Ice Age, with nearly HALF the CO². What makes you think today is ANY different?

Oh... yeah... agendas.

THIS Is Why Chicken Shit Chicken Littles Screech About Climate And Weather And Global Warbling:

The UN Makes it Official: Global Warming Hysteria Is All About Redistributing Wealth

UN IPCC Official Admits 'We Redistribute World's Wealth By Climate Policy'

Global Study Reveals Wealth Redistribution From Blue-Carbon Ecosystems

Failed Climate Policies Are About Wealth Redistribution

"We Redistribute De Facto The World's Wealth By Climate Policy."

How Global Warming Has Made The Rich Richer
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20190502-how-global-warming-has-made-the-rich-richer

The U.N.'s Global Warming War On Capitalism: An Important History Lesson
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/01/22/the-u-n-s-global-warming-war-on-capitalism-an-important-history-lesson-2/?sh=4f89a2d429be

The Doha Wealth Redistribution Process Moves On
https://townhall.com/columnists/davidrothbard/2012/12/14/the-doha-wealth-redistribution-process-moves-on-n1465410

=====

"There is no doubt, that we need to have a complete transformation... the transformation of the economy, and that includes, of course, the private
sector."

A carbon tax will change NOTHING, other than the wealth of politicians and countries who beg us for money. THAT was the purpose of the Paris
Accord... the ONLY purpose.

Funny... when the government no longer pays for bogus money-grabbing data, the truth comes out.

"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running."


"And we're like... the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change..."

AOC's Top Aide Admits Green New Deal About The Economy, Not Climate
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aocs-top-aide-admits-green-new-deal-
about-the-economy-not-the-climate

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's chief of staff recently admitted that the Green New Deal was not conceived as an effort to deal with climate change,
but instead a "how-do-you-change-the-entire economy thing" -- a remark likely to fuel Republican claims that the deal is nothing more than a thinly
veiled socialist takeover of the U.S. economy. "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all,"
Saikat Chakrabarti said in May, according to The Washington Post.

*****

UN Official Admits That Climate Change Used As A Ruse To Control The World's Economy
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/diabolical-lie-called-climate-change-used-
un-promote-economic-agenda/

*****

"Unequal Distribution of Wealth and Power" Causes Climate Change
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/un-climate-summit-causes-of-
climate-change-unequal-distribution-of-wealth-and-power/

*****

U.N. Official Reveals Real Reason Behind Warming Scare
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to-
destroy-capitalism/

*****

Another Climate Alarmist Admits Real Motive Behind Warming Scare
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/another-climate-alarmist-
admits-real-motive-behind-warming-scare/

*****

United Nations Official Admits the Purpose of the Global Warming Hoax is to Destroy Capitalism
http://lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/donald-r-may/2015-02-
27/united-nations-official-admits-purpose-global-warming#.V-nGUOM1HmE
Paul Aubrin
2024-11-26 11:55:28 UTC
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Post by JTEM
Post by Alan
I said that the data is presented as a graph already, and it clearly
shows your article to be bullshit.
Why are there glaciers?
The Maldives were supposed to be underwater at least 6 years
ago, why aren't they?
Glacier National Park was going to be "Glacier Free" BY the
year 2020. No on or in 2020 but BY the year 2020.
There's still glaciers!
You're in this retarded position where you're defending what
you want to call "Science" when we all know, and even you
know, that it isn't science.
Those predictions were pure climastrology.
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